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The launcher matches the UI to the firmware version. I agree that it seems odd that if you are 4.7.0 the ac is a different version. But my suggestion is to follow Michel's directions as written... one of the goals should be to getting to the latest FW. Paul

Ok. One of Michel's steps was to update the firmware to the latest 4.7.3 after installing the launcher (with the UD icon) and making a backup of the ISY. Paul

Your firmware is 4.7.3 and admin console is 4.6.2? I would close the admin console, clear java cache and run the launcher again Paul

When you see your ISY come up in the finder, are you getting a choice between launching the admin console or dashboard? Paul

My suggestion is to open a ticket with this information and UDI will work something out with you that you'll be happy with Paul

Hi My suggestion is that you post this in the mobilinc section of the forum so that Wes (InsteonNut) will see it. There are some additional questions to answer too: which version of moblinc (X), and how you are using your geofence: which portal (ISY or mobilinc) you're using (if any), was it working previously and then stopped? is the ISY varable a state variable?

My house came with that old rainbird work box. Amazingly big... you could stuff a body in there once you get rid of the old controller parts.

Mark Same on time of day. I've been doing 3am as well for perennial rye for 10 or more years. Same on water cost as well... ours is insanely expensive. HA irrigation paid for itself, now its paying for the rest. I think when you say weather module, did you add the irrigation module on top of that as well? The irrigation module does the evapotranspiration calcs to say if watering is needed. Paul

Insteon devices can handle outside temps typically mine see -20 to +105. Find a decent work box like @bleepblorp suggests, that you can get an outlet inside of while maintaining electrical code for the outlex. I would suggest buying terminal strips too for the zone wire. Wire from the ez to the terminals on one side, and out to the yard on the other. Here's an example of the terminal part, but I had 3 13wire bundles (on the right side). You'd only have 1 bundle of 8, but would need to add an outlet and with room to plug in the ez. Its a carlon box from home depot.

Great Ken, nice job on the programs. I had 2 ezfloras I wrote programs for a few years and they were more complicated than yours without being more effective, I like these. I get what you mean by "fail safing". I've experimented with my current controller and "over did" my water savings approach... I've saved water, but a few brown spots this summer because I was too agressive this year... and the city replaced sidewalk and destroyed a few zones for a month I've not looked at weather controllers or their nodeservers but they are interesting. I have a hydreon rain sensor connected to an iolinc that I've used for 5 years, and I can pick up actual outdoor temp from a sensor for my ventstar thermostat. All other weather / light for my ISY programs comes from the climate module like you're doing Paul

Nice / simple / logical. Accounting for climate can save a lot of water and that's where automation comes into its own vs older standard sprinkler controllers that don't always get replaced. Those are typically set for worst case summer heat. A couple of small things to think about: I'm pretty sure that 'Climate 24 hour rain' is a look ahead, not behind. But You could encorprate both history and forecast..in your If: 'total rain today' (since you run @ 10pm), or '24 h rain' forecast (maybe more than .2... like maybe .5 or higher). That way you don't water when it did rain, or when its likely to rain.. but beyond your run time. If you are using an ezrain/flora controller: only one zone at a time will run. If zone 1 is running, and you start zone 2, ... Zone 1 will automatically shut off, you don't have to turn it off. Obviosly the last one you do. IIRC, I think shutting any one valve off shuts them all off simultaneously. Easy to test. Thanks for sharing. Paul

Thanks for sharing. A suggestion to make it easier to view for forum members is to do either one of the following: right click on each program name in the list, and pick 'copy to clipboard' on the bottom of the presented list... then paste the copied text for each program in a forum message window here.. one at a time.... or... .. use the windows snipping tool or <windows key> <shift> <S> to capture an image of each one and paste in a window here. Then write about the purpose of each program on top of each one. The format provided is ISY xml format, requireing the forum members to load your program in to their ISYs to see them. Thanks Paul

Let's start with what you mean by data, I assume its tracking device , variable and program actions? If yes, there is ISY Logger in the Nodelink Nodeserver. Its a separate Nodeserver App, eg not Polyglot, and the ISY Logger can be installed as part if it. With ISY Logger, you can define the devices, variables and programs you want tracked and it can Show them on its web page log window Save to a file Send to a unix syslog facility (along with other Nodelink messages) Its been a while since I used it, at one point programs were logged by their number not name. You'll need to set it up, experiment and see if it meets what you are trying to accomplish This is information on setting up nodelink which has 20 different devices in it including ISY Logger. Its pretty simple to use. You can select programs, variables and devices to track. You don't want to have more than you need as its subcribing to the ISY and could affect performance. Below is the setup page with a Program, Device and Variable example. Paul

So, I'll add one more to my list. The page for the GE AC units I found said it works with IFTTT. I believe moblinc X works with IFTTT, as does the ISY portal. @InsteonNut - I've wandered outside of what I know. Can you respond with what the possibilities are in this case? Paul

No/Maybe. Mobilinc can control devices and programs that are defined in the ISY. Here are exceptions If there are public definitions of an API (application programming interface) for the AC, and ISY Network Resources could control it, then you could define network resources and write ISY programs to call the network resouces and mobilinc could control those programs AFAIK, Mobilinc (as well as the other ISY mobile apps) can not control devices defined as Nodeserver Node ... yet Paul

Is it a new scene? if so, did you "discover devices" after setting it up? If neither of the above is the case, try removing it from alexa, readding / discovering Paul

Very good point and that's one of the things my thermostats do as an internal function (and does't matter if its due to automation or not) and displays a message with minutes left until it will start again so the occupants don't revolt.

Personally I would plan on that working. If you have a couple of devices handy, test it as soon as you're able. There are a number of "gottchas" with dual band insteon like metal j boxes blocking rf signals and switches in jboxes tend to lose range verus a plugin module. Plugging the insteon device for syncing the apartment on the circuit with a fridge, a/c, etc could have reliability problems. Point being if you're able to design around it, try to work around those problems. Paul

While that's a reasonable conceptual approach, its a matter of the distance the rf signal has to travel, and what kind of building materials might block rf. What would be the ~ distance between where 2 closest dual band devices would be installed? Paul

There's a polyglot nodeserver that controls the IO for an RPI. Not sure if that io interface technically meets your requirements, but that's a relatively small sized package to install. You can install the GPIO nodeserver from the polyglot store once you have polyglot installed. Paul

Typically the router provides the secondary dns function. I’m trying to remember the last time I had a router that didn’t.

There's not necessarily a right or wrong answer, its more about what you want to accomplish and capabilites of the thermostat. The capabilities of the Insteon thermostat are limited, where thermostats like the Venstar Colortouch and Ecobee are robust.

I have venstar colortouch thermostats. It’s full featured from an hvac perspective including schedules, humidity and controlling stages. I do as much as possible on the the thermostat for reasons mwester pointed out. I don’t change temps with the ISY. Here’s how the ISY helps - gathering and tallying cycle counts and runtime stats for heat by stage, cooling and humidity. I use a customized Home Automation Dashboard HAD page to review it. This was more important a few years ago when I replaced my 2 hvac systems and also insulated and needed to see how runtimes changed. Also for tuning how to configure the venstars for triggering second stage. - fan cycling. I want to cycle the fans twice an hour for 5 minutes each during spring and fall when the systems don’t run much. When it’s really hot or cold out I want the fans on full time - my house is older and this helps hold the temp longer. But if key doors and windows are open, I want no cycling at all. - I have a keypad key by the back door to set “away” when leaving. I have the locative app on my phone that works through the ISY portal to set “home” when I’m back with ~50 miles so the house is ready when we’re back. - pushover notifications to my phone for fan and humidity pad replacements. Paul

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