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No, the Insteon 2450 io module won't handle 24vac directly. However you can add a sensor that will turn 24vac to dry contacts. Functional Devices makes sensors of this type. Grainger sells them, I got a different Functional Devices sensor for another 2450 application to monitor my sump pump, and was connected quickly to a specialist that talked me through it and ordered the right one.

One option: Is there a keypad nearby with an extra key? Pressing it could change another variable for the "business" at that time and override for x minutes Another option: is "business" at known time windows? Program exceptions for those times

I monitor 2 of 27 Insteon devices, 2450 io modules that monitor my sump pump. This post has examples of how to program it It only runs when I don't hear from one monitoring the motor running after 5 hours, so it rarely runs. Trying to do this for 25 devices will involve 26 - 50 programs, depending how you initiate the query, and will create significant Insteon traffic with messages going out and coming back to 25 devices that could collide with each other Maybe program the critical one like the fridge, scheduled to run a couple times a day(?)

The conversation will be initiated by the eisy and / or UDM app locally, outbound initiated to the portal. NAT firewall rules allow outbound and related inbound traffic, so there shouldn't be an issue. Between enhanced DNSSEC services and Trend Micro, I have network protection too and have not had UDI services blocked for the NAT firewall rule reasoning above. FWIW my router shows eisy keeping an IPV6 address open as well which I assume portal

I've never tried it, but iox has a programming step under Then statements Select System, pick Restart iox from the drop down This is addressing the symptoms but not the problem.. Its probably best to try and find what's happening when things go wrong Look at the iox and plugin logs / error logs after the event occurs Find out the unix command to track memory and process use... ssh in and observe the change in resource use over time. I've not done this with eisy / BSD, but with rpi/raspbian, I don't know these exact steps but someone here will

It was me, not UDI. I was writing a program that resulted in a tight loop with many UDM push notifications. My bad and apologies to UDI and this community Paul

I think there were migration options in the fall. I think your best bet now is to submit a ticket, explain what you have already here and ask what if anything can be done The ticket system is their way of managing work queue https://www.universal-devices.com/my-tickets/

You're welcome. Even in today's world, 1 second sounds skinny to me... lots of links in the chain / moving parts from the weather service, email, and the ISY itself. Time and use may prove this out either way.

The reason it's happening is that you want to know if either is triggering, and they both are at slightly different times. Assuming they're both triggering within 5 minutes of each other, I would do it with a timer and a second program Program freeze warning 1 If Your first weather condition Or Your second weather conditon Then Run program freeze warning 2 else Program freeze warning 2 (no if) Then wait 5 minutes Send notification 'xxx' Resource 'Freeze warning message' else When the second conditions triggers, the second program will restart because it's waiting, and you'll get only one message. Start with 5 minutes and then try reducing the wait time so there's not as much wait, but the program continues to run only once

No, by hub I mean yolink... yolink has a hub you have to use to integrate the sensors Yolink sensors -> Yolink hub -> ISY Yolink Plugin -> ISY You want the yolink hub to have good wifi and be close to your wifi router so it has good communication. The sensors can be further away. I had to send notifications, the cycle could be a very long time if the temp doesn't change, like 40mins to an hour? I haven't found a way with the plugin to access this, but that app does show last update in minutes. An ISY program could be written to track this

Hi, welcome Yes, navigating the forum can be a handful, because the ISY can do a lot. You've posted in the right location in this yolink subforum On to YoLink. I am a recent adopter too, specifically the 8003 basic temp and humidity sensors. The yolink app is an integral part of getting updates timely. I can provide bullets that I think will help: Wi-Fi and yolink radios: Yolink needs good wifi from the yolink controller to the ISY. IMO, its much more important to place the yolink hub in location that lets it get good wifi signal than worry about sensor location Yonlink sensors use a special long range radios to communicate with the hub, not wifi Long range is a relative term, but I suggest setting up as I outlined above Yolink temp/humid sensor update timing The 8003 sensors by default have a long cycle to save battery. You can affect this, using the app Find the sensor in the app, select it Click on the 3 dots on the upper right next to the sensor name pick alerts Set the temp/humidity slide controls to define normal expected temp Once the sensor crosses from normal to alert, it will update more frequently You can also set your own Alert interval at the bottom In the FAQs it discusses this a little more What I did: I have a enclosed 2nd floor laundry room, and a second floor master bath that I want to control humidity venting for Installed an Insteon i3 paddles to control the fans in each location Installed an 8003 near the switches in each location Used the yolink app history graph for each location after laundry and showers Picked alert ranges for each. Temp and humidity have lives of there own, and for the laundry room, temp was a better indicator Wrote really basic ISY programs for each that looks for => alert level I'll probably have to revisit based on seasonal relative humidity. For now, it works as desired Master Bath Fan Control - [ID 003A][Parent 0006] If 'HVAC / Master Bath Temp Humidity Sen' Current Rel Humidity (%) >= 44.0% Then Set 'HVAC / Master Bath Fan' On Else Set 'HVAC / Master Bath Fan' Off

It's a feature that was more important in the early ISY product days. The ISY has a web server in it and can serve up web pages, including web pages to control ISY devices and programs. HTML role has options for how much of that control you want to give a web user of your ISY. I don't believe it has relevance in the era of plugins and mobile apps. It does not affect the Admin Console. FWIW I leave mine on advanced on the outside chance something happens and I have no other way to reach my ISY. From the ISY 26/99 wiki: HTML Role: Read Only - Allows Program status to be read. Basic - Allows Programs to be Run (If), Run Then, Run Else, and Stopped. Advanced - Allows the user to Enable/Disable Programs. Admin - Allows the user to Enable/Disable Run at Startup for Programs.

No. It's not designed to run continuously.

Yes and @Panda88's plugin. The hub 3 was rumored to be local only, which ended up to not be true, but in today's internet world, not an issue for me. Hub 3 will support a backup mobile network when it comes out. I chose the hub 2 which can also do TTS. I just installed two 8003 temp/humidity sensors for i3 paddle fan control in our master bath and second floor laundry room. I had to install them and use the app to see the temp and humidity graphs and watch behavior. The learning curve was setting the "alarm" function for temp and humidity with the yolink app. It reports more frequently when the target temp is at or past the alarm boundary.. it reports more frequently in alarm state, and saves battery with fewer updates when not. But more frequent updates gives finer control of sending the "off" to the fan. Change of seasons is yet to be proven, but I can work that out with iox programs.

You don't need the serial converter if you use 2413U with eisy. ISY994i: You need a serial PLM eisy/polisy: Its easiest to directly plug in a USB PLM. If you have a serial PLM and you want to keep using it, there is a cable for using it on eisy and ISY. You might want to do that if the PLM is not old and its your existing PLM that knows your Insteon network

Thanks @IndyMikeand @gzahar It triggers any time after the query fails. The wait and program call above are redundant and I get a second notification, I took those out The summary, what I needed to know: Come up with a program to include the query statements in the "then". It could be based on a couple times of day, or some other logic like I did Create a separate service handling programs that are not called or referred to by the first program. To your points, they trigger when the ISY doesn't hear back. The first program looks like this. My recollection is that iox doesn't pause between back-to-back Insteon commands, so the "wait". If I haven't heard from the sump pump power sensor for X hours, query both iolincs. Sump Pump 2450 Error Check - 1 - [ID 0035][Parent 0033] If $Sump_Pump_Hours_Since_Last_Run >= 5 Then Set 'Sump Pump Monitor / Sump Pump Power - Sensor' Query Wait 4 seconds Set 'Sump Pump Monitor / Sump Depth Alarm-Sensor' Query Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') These two programs service the query errors, initiated by above. They send me notifications when the query fails Sump Pump 2450 Depth Error - 2 - [ID 000D][Parent 0033] If 'Sump Pump Monitor / Sump Depth Alarm-Sensor' Responding is False Then Set 'Notifications / Service Pushover alerts' Send Sys Custom With Params Sound=Siren Retry=30 Expire=60 Content 25 Notification ID (ID=25) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I tested it by pulling the 2450 out of the wall and running the program. Thanks for the thoughts, Mike. I had pretty good luck with 2450s at my last house over 12 years; garage door, rain sensor and attic fan louvre control. I did look seriously at YoLink as you suggested and recently got it for temp/humid sensors. It's possible these get switched. I'm having to learn YoLink's way of thinking, and more successful with it the more I do. Definitely very impressed and looking at expanding sensors using it. It seems to be designed for DIY and not worried about MYq type changes affecting it.

I didn't have this plugin at the time, but there are other HA use cases in general that helps someone whose health brings mobility challenges. Voice control of lights and thermostat. Remotelincs for things like attic fan motors and attic louvers. Also automated lighting premise and inside for convenience and making the house look actively lived in For me, a 100% traveler at the time, it offered passive support through notifications; did the Simiplisafe alarm get turned off?, implying letting the dog out or leaving the house. Did the garage door go up at the right time to go to known appointments? I wish this one would have existed at that time as audio prompts for medications would have been great. It offers them support, with dignity

I had an idea to run a program 4 times a day, every 6 hours, .. but ideally when it should be when it appears there may be a problem. When I don't hear from the 2450 after 3 hours, I want to make sure Insteon isn't the problem. Sump Runtime 2450 Error 1 - [ID 0035][Parent 0033] If $Sump_Pump_Hours_Since_Last_Run >= 3 Then Set 'Sump Pump Monitor / Sump Pump Power - Sensor' Query Wait 5 seconds Run Program 'Sump Runtime 2450 Error 2' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Not sure if the above program needs to call this one, not sure on the conditions for "Responding" to trigger Sump Runtime 2450 Error 2 - [ID 000D][Parent 0033] If 'Sump Pump Monitor / Sump Pump Power - Sensor' Responding is False Then Set 'Notifications / Service Pushover warnmsg' Send Sys Custom With Params Priority=Normal Sound=Pushover (default) Retry=30 Expire=60 Content 26 Notification ID (ID=26) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I'll let this run, and go down and unplug the 2450 tomorrow and see it works

Thanks Mike No, not worried about missing. I looked at that. I added the equivalent parts for a signalinc to my panel. The log and event viewer show it hitting every time... On and offs line up completely day after day I'm more concerned that the 2450 stops working and I won't know . The e conversation is initiated by the 2450, not the eisy The query part...I don't know / forgot what to do. What steps are needed to do that. How do I structure the program?

I have 2 2450 / iolincs monitoring my sump pump. The programs to do the reporting of the sump pump activity have been working as expected for an over a month. I'm going back and writing alert programs that verify links in the chain like: are the 2450s alive? My concern is that both 2450 are sensor only, the only communication is initiated from contact closure at the sump pump, not the eisy... so If I don't hear back, could the 2450 failed? This is not a case of a program not working, more about how to approach it. I did go back and review posts from the past, and the 994i manual. I didn't find program snippets that show the right way to do it. Here's how I approached it for one of them: The logic is, if 3 hours or more go by without on or off from the 2450, and the 2450 is not responding, send me a notification. Sump Runtime 2450 Error - [ID 0035][Parent 0033] If $Sump_Pump_Hours_Since_Last_Run >= 3 And 'Sump Pump Monitor / Sump Pump Power - Sensor' Responding is False Then Wait 5 seconds Set 'Notifications / Service Pushover warnmsg' Send Sys Custom With Params Priority=Normal Sound=Pushover (default) Retry=30 Expire=60 Content 26 Notification ID (ID=26) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I'm assuming the Query in the If is sending a Insteon messages to the 2450, and the 5 second wait is to let that communication work itself out. Is that how this is supposed to work? if not, suggestions are appreciated

It could be an IP issue. If I'm reading this correctly, the NS restarted which might cause the isy device to ask for new IP info, it finds the new path and goes online. How would the envisalink device know to do that? It was left on and it's previous IP path was pulled out from under it, maybe? Can you access it to see what it thinks its host configuration info is? IP, DNS, subnet mask,etc? I think this will have a lot to do with the router and how failover is managed. Have done simulated failover with this setup?

I've recently purchased and installed it on the version prior to 5.8 and it installed as it should and working. So I'm going literally by the steps you listed, I don't see that you did the install step? That would explain the outcome. Install and reboot If that's not it, I would go to the pg3x log, set for debug and look at the entries near the bottom for errors related to yolink.

There was an FreeBSD OS upgrade behind the most recent IoX update. The steps are a little different for eisy for using the power button - one click. I did it and it seemed to take a little longer

Some log info is needed to help the developer, @firstone, help you. After attempting to launch the plugin, go to the log tab of pg3 select "Debug" on the right Click download pg3x log Mention firstone here when you've done that

Edit.. Forgot about the else, I think my suggestion will also toggle back and forth I would try adding/testing to the if: And $Blizzard_warning not equal 1 I'm assuming that it stays 1 during the blizzard and doesn't toggle back and forth