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The choice comes down to integration. For the hub, Integrating insteon devices to both the hub and the isy will be tricky to do and maintain. It will be difficult to impossible to integrate with other isy functions and programs. Also I would expect the echo integration from udi to be richer and deeper. Fwiw, I'm waiting. Not sure how long.

Each time Java is updated, you'll have to rinse and repeat. You can use the directions, or upgrade Java

Here is an additional way. You can have specific applications run in 640x480 mode, which effectively increases the font size and touchpoints Here is how to do this: Find the admin console icon Press and hold it for a second, then release You'll see a popup with the ISY Amin console icon in it Press and hold that for a second then release On that pop-up, tap properties Make properties look like the attached picture: Run in Windows XP (Service Pack 3) compatibility mode Run in 640x480 screen resolution press Apply press ok Its not a perfect solution: There will be a little bit of screen flashing / flickering bringing the admin console up. Also, the "+" icons to expand Devices and Programs are still maddeningly small. Press a little left of where you think you should If you didn't get the surface pen for your surface, you may want to. However, I can flip back and forth to other apps and the admin console. This approach does help with editing programs and watching / adjusting variables, which is my main requirement

Lee The non responsive zone is a test for a fried ezflora that can be programmed. Turn the zone on, query the zone, wait 5 seconds then call a program that checks for it to be off. If it is, notify etc. Paul

I just got a surface 3 yesterday, partially for remote admin console access! Here are a couple ways 1) VPN. VPN software lets you access your LAN like you were there. The surface has a VPN client built in, or there are other clients like openvpn. On your house side, you need a VPN server. My router provides that. If your router has A VPN server, that would work. A VPN allows you to access other things on your LAN in addition to the ISY 2) Port forwarding. Use your router's features to redirect an SSL port to your ISY. Set an option up in ISY Finder with your house's IP address and the port number that redirects to your ISY. A little bit of technical knowledge is needed to do this, we can help with that here if needed 3) The new ISY portal. Its in beta, but once available, it is designed specifically to put your ISY on the internet securely, and for you to access it remotely. If you can wait, and don't need to access other devices on your LAN, probably #3 is best If you can't wait, its a toss up between the other two options... Does your router have VPN and do you need to work with other devices? Then #1. If not, probably #2 Paul

Contact UD @ http://www.universal-devices.com/contact-support/ Summarize the above and paste a link to this thread. They are very good about being responsive

There can be conditions where devices that are supposed to trigger a dry contact electronically don't do that to the satisfaction of the ioloinc, and it won't register the "close". This means that dry contact bench tests work, but real world connections to devices like the infrared beam sensor do not.. A symptom of this is that the green LED on the iolinc will glow when there is an attempt to activate it with a device like the infrared beam sensor, vs bright green when bench testing with physical contact. I have had this happen with a current sensor to see if an appliance is on. The current sensor didn't do enough to convince the iolinc it was contacted, but it would make the iolincs led glow a little, which makes it appear it was activated. Are you able to get the iolinc to read an "on" at all, observed at the admin console, without the scene, using the infrared beam sensor as the trigger?

Al Go to the 4.2.30 version forum post and find the link to download the admin console again. Run it, and the icon will come back. Paul

If you have 100% dual band, you probably don't need access points. The caveats are if you have isolated insteon devices where RF doesn't reach, or a few SB devices at the far end of a circuit that powerline signals can't reach. I have examples of both of those at my house. Isolation can mean its far away distance wise, or that there is something noisy in the circuit or metal blocking rf between things that need to talk. A great example is metal jboxes, mine do a great job of focusing / limiting rf. Right now there aren't software tools that are easily used to spot signal performance of individual insteon devices at a level that would allow investigation,, eg. these devices always need an extra hop to get a signal to. Its guess work, and individualized to each unique house that its in. Or dig through a lower level log, device by device on a regular basis. My approach is to manage to the communication problems that present themselves, and not worry about it further.

Chuck It is their own server, however its recommended not to use it. It can work good for long periods, then there can be delays. I use Google fwiw Paul

Hi Michel / Xathros I would love a sample/example line to follow if that's possible. Paul

Chris The specific file is here Its good to book mark the general location for the updates, the different versions are all filed together here on the forum, some are pinned, some are not and you have to scroll to find the specific version. The first post of every version, Michel posts all of the necessary links, including the download location for the UDI location for the UI. Let us know if this got you backed up and on to the next step. Paul

Chirs The UIs and firmwares are matched, you should use the same versions of each. I would start with downloading (or retrieving a copy if you have it) of 4.2.7. Use that UI and try it again. Also, be sure you have access to the drive you are saving to. That seems an unlikely cause but possible. Paul

Not sure. Costco is cleaning out its 3s, they will send a few non pro 3s to the stores in in the midwest in a month or so with the type cover for $600. I'm contemplating that vs waiting for the non pro 4. I've researched both and the non pro with its atom processor is the right one for my requirements as well. The beauty of costco is that if I don't like it, I can just take ti back and be done with it, so I might go ahead and try the 3 and see if I like it. Paul

I've reported the additional post to the moderator, with a very specific recommendation of what to do about it.

You can use either one. An ISY program can control the garage lights If garagecontacts turn off (Vs turn on, an ISY program can monitor either state for either device) Then set garagelights on Wait 15 minutes set garagelights off

Java apps are active and everywhere in corporate america, especially backend uses like interfaces. The large body of certified offshore java resources makes it hard to justify rewrites in something else. Java is not going away anytime soon. I am hanging out for the surface 4 release next month as my new travel tablet that will be able to run the admin console.

Stop. This is conversation is no longer helping anyone.

The discontinued devices and icon switches should not inherently be a problem, they should be upwardly compatible. I wouldn't worry about that. The four click method could get tricky when fast-on (double clicking the switch) is already in the mix. Each person will input their clicks differently. I would explore other, more controlled approaches. You could have him call our text you when he's around and you use a phone app like mobilinc to unlock it when needed. Another possibility: When I used to sprinkle during the day, I gave my lawn guy a remote to turn the sprinkling programs off if they were going when he arrived. But he can be here every week during summer and fall. You could do a similar thing, give him a remotelinc to let himself in and lock on the way out.

Thanks Earlence! Its good to see academia take interest in HA, and security is a great place to start. I worked in IT at UMMC and familiar with UofM's dedication to security and pioneering efforts in the internet we have today. We would certainly like to see what results you are able to share when they are ready. Paul

IE is still under the W10 hood, you find it by typing Internet Explorer in the search box next to the windows icon on the lower left. Its now a "Windows Accessory"! You can pin it to the task bar if you still want it around. To the point made by others, I download the java app one time from the link given on the version release page, and run it directly,

Hi Earlance, I took the survey... UofM is down the road from me, I worked at UMMC in IT in the past. I'm curious, could you tell us a little about the class, and what point of view the survey is looking to explore? Thanks Paul

Ryan What happens when you use the physical on buttons on the lamplinc to turn it on and off? Paul

Insteon communications are stateless, meaning there is nothing keeping an eye on devices outside of normal communications (and the 3am all device query). You'll need to write a program to query the device at a threshold you can live with. I really recommend against query all devices outside of the the 3am checks. Its a lot of traffic load on the insteon network and could have performance and other undesirable side effects. I have found very few cases in almost 10 years of insteon use where this is a problem, and the root cause was needing to address communications problems by adding dual band devices, or filtering certain appliances. The case I do query is my garage door, I have a program do a query after a keypad key in the house is pressed and enough time goes by that the door should be down. Its more of an operational check that the door didn't strike something on the way down and stop. I also check my first alert smoke bridge more often. The point is, I would focus on making sure your insteon network is healthy and address that, and use queries only where there are safety or other specific concerns.

I have the ancestor to this intermatic unit from home depot, its been in service for 14 years. I attribute the few insteon/x10/electronic losses I've had to this unit. The difference between the two units is the amount of coverage insurance you get, $10k for 5 years vs $7.5k for 3 years. I would always have one of these. There are a number of brands, types and models that you should investigate. This, at a minimum, works well. Paul