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In each case, create a scene with both devices as Controllers. A device can be a controller of one and only one scene, but it can be a responder to many. They'll appear in red in the scene. BTW, for the ISY, a controller is also a responder, but a responder is never a controller. Responders in scenes appear in blue. In the First Case, above, why do you have two scenes?

I'm not fighting it. On the contrary, I started my post with, "I haven't yet tried .." I will try, but I haven't yet gotten around to it.

Does that mean that if I place one otherwise unused "light device" in a few scenes, that I could then issue a successful Off command for that scene?

I haven't yet tried having an Echo device in each of two rooms on the same sub-account and using the same, identical command to control each light separately in each of those rooms, for example, "Alexa, turn the light on," turns on only the light in the room where I issue the command. But I found this which indicates that it can't be done. I have been using separate sub-accounts to accomplish the task and it works flawlessly. A tremendous advantage of v3 is that you no longer need an Amazon account for each sub-account. OTOH, I find working on a computer more convenient for most tasks compared with using a smartphone, but that's just me. And that requires a free Amazon account. I do not use Prime for my sub-accounts. That may be a disadvantage for many of you. BTW, an Amazon account supplements the functionality of a portal sub-account, it in no way interferes with the smartphone app.

It's hardware. You'll have to open the ISY to install it, but that's easy if you can rewire a lamp and replace a wall switch. Click on Help. Purchase Modules or try here.

Benoit, Thanks again for the speedy response. Can annoying Amazon help? That's us being pests, not UDI Stu

Any progress on the Open (On) and Close (Off) fiasco?

You can add the IR module to the ISY. Actually, all the Harmony Hub can do is trigger a program. Then you can use a program in and of itself or have the program turn on or off a device and/or scene. There are more complex methods, but whay not go with the simplest way to accomplish the same task.

The All On problem is an Insteon protocol command. That command has been deleted from Insteon devices a while ago. Sorry, I don't have a date, but I believe that it's more than a year. Older devices can still respond to that command, newer devices cannot. No one has yet pinpointed how the command gets produced, but it seems restricted to an ISY Insteon network only.

I'm back, This is the first time you mentioned using the iPhone app. That's somewhat different than the computer app. I'll play with the smartphone app to see what can be accomplished.

How do you create a Smart Home Group for only one room. I can create any number of groups and add any number of devices to that group, including only the lights for just one room, but what do I name each group so that the identical command turns on the devices only in that one group?

Detail how it's done. I'm running the v.3 skill. Thanks. Edit: see post #23.

I'll continue to mention it whenever the subject comes up for those who want to use the same term in each of separate rooms. Sure, I can have Alexa control all lights by placing them in a Group. I can also do that using a scene. But, without multiple accounts, I cannot use the same expression in different rooms and have only the device (e.g., light, fan, table lamp, floor lamp, etc.) in that particular room respond. Thus, "Alexa, turn on the light," turns on only the bedroom light when I'm in the bedroom. An identical command issued from the living room turns on only the living room light. Ditto for the kitchen, dining room and media room. That cannot currently be accomplished using a single account, not even with v.3.

Green and orange instead of green and purple should reverse the response of the open vs. close sensor.

Although the Aeotech Siren does protrude from the wall, it is a siren. All sirens protrude. It was, at one time, the only available Z-Wave repeater that was widely effective, but now other equally effective repeaters are available such as a doorbell which can be used with the included wireless push-button or with any ISY connected doorbell device. There's also a Gen 6 repeater which is really small. Plug any device into an outlet that's inaccessible such as behind the couch. And yes, Larry is correct, Z-Wave needs a full mesh which a repeater fulfills (or a number of wired Z-Wave devices).

I don't. I do use multiple accounts.

No programs need to be recreated. You only need to add programs to control the Off situation which can be deleted when the "bug" is fixed.

No, you can buy a different Z-wave controller and have the ISY use it as a primary controller. Oh, wait. You need the ISY Z-wave module to do that. But, other Z-Wave controllers can often access features that the ISY cannot. Unless you're willing to give v5, which is in Alpha testing a go.

v.2 can do that now. v.2 can do that now. That's my concern. In the Amazon Alexa smartphone Routines, the Off command is available only for devices. Scenes can be turned on, but not off. And groups don't even appear.

Hi Larry, You response is not unlike some of mine, missing the title entirely

US distributor for ISY products. I'm also using Schlage locks. I did some extensive field testing between the front door and detached garage (about 75' through two wood lathe and plaster walls, two drywall walls and an aluminum garage door) and found the Aeon Gen 5 Siren, ZW056 Doorbell and Range Extender to all be equally effective. The siren and doorbell each have a second purpose (but I don't use the siren, it was the only effective range extender when I bought it). The Range extender is the least costly of the three.

More than a few of us are concerned that the highly touted ISY v.3 skill doesn't support Off for both scenes and programs. A workaround, probably discovered by other but not posted, is to use a program to turn the scene off (if it's a scene) and a second program with the Else statements in the Then section (if it's a program). You can leave the original program intact and delete all the workaround programs when and if a solution occurs.

Perhaps I don't understand your difficulty. All of my lights are controlled by scenes and are named "light," and are controlled by scenes. Alexa has no difficulty controlling those scenes. I especially don't get you last sentence. The portal doesn't show anything as a light, only as a device, scene or program. Or do you mean the smartphone app which shows keypads and switchlincs as light bulbs under the devices tab? Also, not all scenes control lights, so why should they appear as lights? And what and where is the "discovery payload?"

You should be able to add devices, scenes and programs to the Alexa app via the portal. I have bunches of scenes that are controlled by the Alexa app. Not all of these scenes control lights. Or are you using the smartphone app. If so, then there are separate panels for devices, groups and scenes. Both devices and scenes include more than Insteon devices if you have devices installed that can also be controlled by the app, such as Harmony devices and thermostats. Groups have to be created and are for devices that you want to control as one that are not normally "grouped," for example a thermostat and a light. You do not need to create a group for devices that are members of an Insteon scene.

That's exactly the problem I'm experiencing. I see no way to activate the skill for a particular Echo device, let alone the sub-account I created for that purpose.