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Really ????

For curiosity I just added ISY devices to the Homekit App on my Iphone, via Home Assistant. It works..... though the UD Mobile App is much easier to use. Maybe there is an advantage if I would want to create an automation using my Apple devices, but I don't see the need for this.

Stone Age of HA?

My last word on Insteon vs Zwave......... Betamax was better than VHS, but VHS had more manufacturers and won. Then a few years later Tivo replaced VHS....... Now Tivo is practically history as well. I honestly believe that Zwave will outlive Insteon, and then something else will replace Zwave.

Many in this forum prefer Insteon over Zwave. The former allows for faster connection between devices and they also prefer the consistency of the sole manufacturer. I switched to Zwave only when my PLM quit on me and now, with some 80 switches, plug-ins, light bulbs, curtain control, sensors, etc, I am quite happy with my mesh network. I sometimes wonder whether to go back and include a few Insteon sensors and switches to benefit from the faster connection with sensors, but the hassle of getting a PLM again keeps me away. Other than sensors, I have no complaints about my setup. The advantage of the consistency of the sole manufacturer can also be seen as a negative, especially reading all the comments on Smarthome, which appears to be more absent than present. With Zwave you don't have this as there are many alternatives. @Zippy is right to limit himself to a few brands only, especially as different manufacturers use different settings which can be annoying, though newer Zwave devices now often come with auto-inclusion. Personally I prefer the GE/Jasco and Homeseer devices for their performance and Inovelli for their novelty products. Unfortunately, it is also with Inovelli devices that I have most of my issues and I have this love-hate relationship with Inovelli. Having read so many positive comments on Insteon, even if my own experience is different, I believe that if you have a well working Insteon set-up, don't give up on it but when it comes to expansion, consider Zwave. However remember that for the Zwave mesh network to work, you should have sufficient devices throughout your home. I always suggest plug-ins over repeaters to quickly improve your mesh network, because plug-ins (like most if not all non-battery Zwave devices) include a repeater AND are useful to control a lamp or something else.

Understood. I have had zero issues with 5.3.3 (I only have Zwave, no Insteon) and I am not aware, from this forum, that others had serious issues, but do as per your level of comfort. However, do not downgrade the Zwave firmware unless you have an old 300 dongle (which is unlikely)..

DO NOT downgrade. If you have 6.81, it must mean that you have the 500 series Zwave dongle. Furthermore, you should also go straight to 5.3.3 the latest update. Personally I see no reason why you would go through 5.2

I think that @lilyoyo1 answer is complete, but just to make sure : "Polisy currently is an add on for the ISY Device? " Yes. Right now it is an alternative to having Polyglot on a RPi. " eventually, it might be the replacement? " ISY Replacement and enhancement of Polyglot. Some time, probably sooner than later, we will be able to run ISY on Polisy, though I believe that (for time being) the stand alone ISY will remain functional. In other words, you will not be forced to get a Polisy. However I also understand that the next version of Polyglot will no longer work on a RPi, so if you want to use nodeservers (and you really should) Polisy will be needed. " I don't understand the purpose of polisy " Think of color tv vs b&w tv. When color tv's arrived, you could still watch your programs on your old b&w tv, but you got a lot more pleasure out of the color tv. Nowadays, I don't think that b&w tv's exist anymore. The same with Polisy.... It is a lot more powerful device that will allow UD to bring us future enhancements to our home automation. New users of ISY should go straight to Polisy and eventually existing ISY users will make the same move.

Your wish is (almost) my command

(1) I have responded to your private message with example of "speed" programs. (2) As I said before, my 4 fan control switches have been in place for a long time and none may be Zwave Plus, so I just use the basic switch. I have not looked (yet) at what a newer Zwave Plus fan control switch would let me do different.

I have no problems here as my fan control switches properly report status to my ISY, even the older non Plus switches. This may be because of my extensive Zwave mesh network.

Manual control works, as @lilyoyo1says, like a dimmer, which indeed is not optimum because you may press too long or not long enough. A switch that gives a click for each speed or with good visual (light) display, would be great.

I think that I explained this i n my previous post.

I can give you a partial answer and tell you what I did myself. In fact some of my 4 wave fan control switches are several years old and not Zwave Plus. I am also not sure that my setup is the best and maybe I can learn something from what others may post here. In my case I determined that low speed is 33%, mid speed 67% and max (of course) 100 %. I created programs whereby any speed I select between 1 and 33 % goes to 33; any speed between 34 and 67 goes to 67 %; and any speed above 67% goes to 100%. This may not even be necessary, but optically in my Administrative Console any selection will show the right speed. Furthermore, in Google Home (and most likely Alexa as well) I can just instruct the fans to go low, medium or high.

You may want to have a look at this. My experience with (many) Inovelli devices is that they are innovative but with inconsistent performance.

Yes, but add Neutral wherever possible. Sometimes electricians only put line and load to switches and that can make automation more complicated.

It may disqualify you for the Olympics ?

UD Mobile is the way to go.

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I don't have Insteon (only Zwave and some wifi plugs (thru nodeservers). If I add ISY to Polisy, will I have a full copy of my existing ISY or, as you seem to indicate, it would be a different and empty ISY ?

I understand your comment but those of us following the Polisy developments, since it first was brought to our attention in this forum, were well aware of this.

If I do the ISY @ Polisy update, will I still be able to access ISY the old fashioned way and will I have to change my UD Mobile and Home Assistant settings ?

Au contraire......, you are smart to have purchased the Pro as the Wifi & Bluetooth capabilities will become functional and you would feel "gypped" (whatever that means ?) not having these capabilities.

Why do you ask the same questions in 2 different posts ?

(1) Posting your questions here seems ok (2) To the best of my knowledge Wifi & Bluetooth are for future expansion (3) I am not sure about moving Polyglot Cloud to LAN, though most, if not all, Cloud nodeservers also exist on local. You should be able to export from Cloud and import on Polisy. (4) Right now Polisy seems to be "limited" to Polyglot/Nodeservers, though the word "limited" seems out of place to me as Polyglot/Nodeservers are a major addition to ISY, and what more would you want ? Soon, I think, ISY will work directly on Polisy with no further need for the ISY box. (5) The extra network connectors are for future expansion. Maybe they also work as an ethernet hub, though I have not tried that myself.