Brian H

1.& 2. Unknown as we don't have enough information on what the sensors are and what they send on the AC power Lines. I doubt the smoke detectors use anything close to an Insteon protocol in their communications. The I/OLInc is triggered by a dry closure from its Sensor Input to Common. The small voltage you may have seen mentioned. Is the sensing current used to determine if the sensor is On or Off. If you can get a dry closure from the smoke detectors. You can trigger an I/OLinc. I have seen some smoke detector manufacturers make an optional adapter that connects to the wiring to interface with an alarm system. If you know the brand and model. We maybe able to find something. Side note. In the latest beta software there is a Insteon Smoke Sensor {10.0A} listed in the drop down list of modules.

http://www.universal-devices.com/mwiki/ ... s#Hardware

Also a very good chance. They use a different RF frequency for their sensors. FCC Database would confirm the frequency used but you would need the FCC ID number for both of them.

It is listed in the wiki page of errors. http://www.universal-devices.com/mwiki/ ... r_Messages Though I don't know what an IGD error is.

Beta 3.3.4 supports that module. You may have to update to the Beta 3.3.4 to have it work. It is device 10.08 in the drop down list in 3.3.4.

Now that it was mentioned. I am not sure if I had used the Scene Tests in the last few releases.

More information. Bed Room Overhead and Outside Garage Lights. 2476S SwitchLinc Relay HW 2.1, FW v.28, I1 Kitchen Cabinet 2456S3 ApplianceLinc HW 4.2, FW v.28, I2 Remaining devices 2456S3 ApplianceLinc HW 1.3, FW v.28, I1 Query of My Lighting shows Hops Left=2. All my Scenes in the Scenes Test fail 100%.

First time I had tried a Scene test on all my modules with 3.3.4 and also the first time I go a 100% failed response? Tried three times with exact same results. Previous version never did a 100% failed test. Fri 11/23/2012 07:25:44 AM : [GRP-RX ] 02 61 16 13 00 06 Fri 11/23/2012 07:25:44 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 00.FB.B3 19.70.1A 61 13 16 LTOFFRR(16) Fri 11/23/2012 07:25:44 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 00.FB.BF 19.70.1A 61 13 16 LTOFFRR(16) Fri 11/23/2012 07:25:45 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 00.FB.C5 19.70.1A 61 13 16 LTOFFRR(16) Fri 11/23/2012 07:25:45 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 00.FB.F4 19.70.1A 61 13 16 LTOFFRR(16) Fri 11/23/2012 07:25:45 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 00.FC.1F 19.70.1A 61 13 16 LTOFFRR(16) Fri 11/23/2012 07:25:45 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 00.FC.2B 19.70.1A 61 13 16 LTOFFRR(16) Fri 11/23/2012 07:25:46 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 00.FC.35 19.70.1A 61 13 16 LTOFFRR(16) Fri 11/23/2012 07:25:46 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 15.F0.EC 19.70.1A 61 13 16 LTOFFRR(16) Fri 11/23/2012 07:25:46 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 04.2B.B4 19.70.1A 61 13 16 LTOFFRR(16) Fri 11/23/2012 07:25:46 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 04.2D.01 19.70.1A 61 13 16 LTOFFRR(16) Fri 11/23/2012 07:25:47 AM : [CLEAN-UP-RPT] 02 58 06 Fri 11/23/2012 07:25:47 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 04.D5.68 19.70.1A 61 13 16 LTOFFRR(16) ----- All Modules Test Results ----- [Failed] Den Table (0 FC 1F 1) [Failed] Living Room Window (0 FC 35 1) [Failed] Bedroom Wall (0 FC 2B 1) [Failed] Den Chair (4 D5 68 1) [Failed] Kitchen Cabinet (15 F0 EC 1) [Failed] Living Room Fireplace (0 FB F4 1) [Failed] Moms Bedroom (0 FB C5 1) [Failed] Outside Garage Lights (4 2B B4 1) [Failed] Bedroom Overhead (4 2D 1 1) [Failed] Den Floor Lamp (0 FB BF 1) [Failed] Computer Room (0 FB B3 1) ----- All Modules Test Results ----- Fri 11/23/2012 07:25:52 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 00 00 16 CF 13 00 Fri 11/23/2012 07:25:52 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.16 CF 13 00 06 LTOFFRR(00)

Glad you got it working. I agree the support from UDI should be a model for other companies to follow.

The X10 Chime Module only sounds when power is first applied. It will not chime with power going off. So an ApplianceLinc applying power will have it sound but going back off it will not. My X10 Chime Modules sound when power is restored after my power has been off. One thing to remember. ApplianceLincs after revision hardware 4.15 default to off after a power loss. Even if they where on at the time the power was lost. Probably not an issue in this case but something to keep in mind. I have seen others uses report. The small piezo sounder and an I/OLinc also worked well for them. UPDATE: My brand NEW 2456S3 Hardware Revision 4.9 again returns to its known On or Off state after a power loss and restoration.

ELA made a good point. I found the data sheet on the relay. It has a minimum recommended load of 24 volts DC, 30 mA; 5 volts DC, 100 mA.

If it is 24 volts AC. The relays in the EBay link would work and they have the socket with connection screws.

Many electronic supply houses have 24 volt AC relays. I will search for some. Something easy to connect? As many may have solder terminals. I would also ask you to look at the bell transformer, probably in the cellar. Mine is not 24 volts AC. It is 18 volts AC.

If the X10 device was added with the A10/X10 add on module and you then transfered to an ISY controller with out the A10/X10 module. It is possible it was thought to be an Insteon address. I believe when the add on module put X10 devices in the My Lighting tree. It gets a pseudo Insteon Address.

GordonGale; Do you have any anitvirus or firewall programs running? If you do can you tell us what they are including their version? Saw your update on the cable disconnected. So my question on software may not be a factor. Though some programs do cause issues with the ISY Administrative Console.

I don't see any error. My ISY994i Series Quick Setup Guide. Paragraph 1 ISY Installation 2. "Connect the second included Cat5e cable to ISY's Port A and the other end to the PLM. NOTE: If your PLM is model number 2413S, you do need a power supply (not included)"

Pinout is the same for the signals being used. Except pin 2 raw 12 volts on the 2414S and 2412S but not the 2413S. In fact some of my original 2412S PLMs have a 2414S Serial Daughter Card in them. RTC, Backup Battery and real big mostly not used memory also. As Lee pointed out. Completely different command set protocol and serial specifications. The 2414S did provide you power but the communications was still not there. So you got safe mode.

Yes too old. It is supported in the 3.3.4 Beta (RC1) Firmware. viewtopic.php?f=25&t=9834

The ELK-912B is made for a DC voltage. Doorbells are 24 volts AC most times. The AC will cause the inductive spike diode across the relay coil. To short the input on every reversed polarity of the 24 volt AC being applied. May also damage the LED Indicator on the assembly. When set to 24 volts. It looks like a dropping resistor is used in series with the coil input. On 24 volts. The resistor may overheat. When set for 24 volts. You maybe able to add a small bridge rectifier to the Input so the 24 AC is always the correct polarity on the Input of the ELK-912B. Though lumpy DC {unfiltered DC} may make the relay chatter. Guess a filter cap could also be included.

I am using the Doorbell Kit. Though I had the individual parts and just followed the kits instructions. Mine is in the cellar. At the bell transformers location. The ELK-930 is triggered by the bell currant and can be installed anywhere in the wiring for the bell. As long as the bells current flows through the ELK-930 bell sensor board. In my case. I am using the common terminal of the transformer and both the back and front bell trigger the sensor. I am triggering an X10 Powerflash module for a X10 chime module, but have also used the same ELK-930 and an I/OLInc to trigger Appliancelincs with CFLs on them.

The five pin programming connections. Means that they can be reflashed with the proper programmer and source files. Smartlabs and Smarthome just don't offer that option. I don't have any of the thermostats so can't answer that part of the question.

1) No the firmware in Insteon Devices is not field upgradeable and Smarthome/Smartlabs does not offer such a service, but we continue to ask. Most of the modules do have the five pin programming pads or headers in them.

That is how I also read it. Manual linking needed the power On to accomplish it. A controller should be able to do it with the Insteon ID and no power up sequence.

No. That is why my X10 Chime Modules are still being used. Along with a few HR12A Palm Pads. No sixteen button Insteon remotes either. As you may have guessed. Many of my Insteon Modules have an x10 address in them. I believe some have used an I/OLinc to switch a chime or sounder On and Off. In the Smarthome Forums. A user added a small sounder to an I/OLinc and used its small 5 volt power supply to power it. I have never tried it myself. http://www.smarthome.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8037

Canceled the order. Got tired of the never ending Expected Ship Dates slipping and then seeing early users having QC problems. Like the center contact of the bulbs connections falling out when they unscrewed it from the lamp. They also seem to be directional and in my table lamps would probably light my ceiling. I have a few other LED bulbs that also light my ceilings. I believe they are both power line and RF controlled. The Manual Linking method is start the controllers linking function and then screw the bulb into the socket. It stays in that mode for a very short time. Now that 3.3.4 supports it directly. Users should be able to add them to their systems.