madcodger Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 18 hours ago, Michel Kohanim said: Once we get rid of Java, all this will go away. @Michel Kohanim When will getting rid of Java occur? Sorry if I missed this in other threads, but that will be a wonderful thing. Thanks. Link to comment
bmarsh Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 And when you get rid of Java, will ISY still run on Linux? Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 @bmarsh, Yes of course. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
lilyoyo1 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 8 hours ago, madcodger said: @Michel Kohanim When will getting rid of Java occur? Sorry if I missed this in other threads, but that will be a wonderful thing. Thanks. I don't know if you know the way of UDI or noticed but they don't generally give out firm dates. It'll happen, they just won't say when regardless of how asked or how often 1 Link to comment
larryllix Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 54 minutes ago, lilyoyo1 said: I don't know if you know the way of UDI or noticed but they don't generally give out firm dates. It'll happen, they just won't say when regardless of how asked or how often Remember the v5.0.5 rants, demanding, and crying? ? 1 Link to comment
lilyoyo1 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, larryllix said: Remember the v5.0.5 rants, demanding, and crying? ? How about the pre 5.0 rants period. A whole lotta arguments then 2 Link to comment
junkycosmos Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Sometime but I did want to note I’d buy new hardware if we were ALSO considering hardware upgrade Link to comment
madcodger Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 16 hours ago, lilyoyo1 said: I don't know if you know the way of UDI or noticed but they don't generally give out firm dates. It'll happen, they just won't say when regardless of how asked or how often I joined this forum over 11 years ago, @lilyoyo1. Admittedly, my activity level varies with how much I’m “fiddling” with home automation and my ISY, but I am very familiar with the company and their stance on a variety of things. Overall, I remain a loyal customer and for some things, even a fan. For others, I am less enamored. The ISY continues to use Java, which I find less than ideal. And, I have some decisions to make in the next year about some platform investments, so my curiosity is heightened because of that. I thought I might be ignored, and that is Michel’s prerogative. But my curiosity remains, and I suspect it exists for others as well. Information is useful in planning, so I seek it. Link to comment
lilyoyo1 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 55 minutes ago, madcodger said: I joined this forum over 11 years ago, @lilyoyo1. Admittedly, my activity level varies with how much I’m “fiddling” with home automation and my ISY, but I am very familiar with the company and their stance on a variety of things. Overall, I remain a loyal customer and for some things, even a fan. For others, I am less enamored. The ISY continues to use Java, which I find less than ideal. And, I have some decisions to make in the next year about some platform investments, so my curiosity is heightened because of that. I thought I might be ignored, and that is Michel’s prerogative. But my curiosity remains, and I suspect it exists for others as well. Information is useful in planning, so I seek it. I can understand that. In the end you have to do what you feel is best for you. Even if Michel said next year, if UDI isn't ready for it by then it'll be 2021. I can respect that he'd lose you as a customer vs rushing out something premature which will cause much more consternation. Since Polisy doesn't use Java and the ISY will end up being Ported to that, I do feel the end is near. However, knowing how methodical they are, it's probably some ways off prior to being released. If you can't wait that long to be done with Java, you can always come back once the change is made (if you don't like your new system). You already have your ISY so it's not like you have to invest in it again (unless you get rid of it). Link to comment
asbril Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) On 10/17/2019 at 7:51 AM, lilyoyo1 said: I can understand that. In the end you have to do what you feel is best for you. Even if Michel said next year, if UDI isn't ready for it by then it'll be 2021. I can respect that he'd lose you as a customer vs rushing out something premature which will cause much more consternation. Since Polisy doesn't use Java and the ISY will end up being Ported to that, I do feel the end is near. However, knowing how methodical they are, it's probably some ways off prior to being released. If you can't wait that long to be done with Java, you can always come back once the change is made (if you don't like your new system). You already have your ISY so it's not like you have to invest in it again (unless you get rid of it). UDI is more transparent on bugs and product evolution than any company that I know of. It may cast a shadow of imperfections, but in fact it gives me, and many others, the confidence that UDI knows what needs to be fixed and and that they have (an almost obsessive) determination to get it right. Edited October 18, 2019 by asbril 2 Link to comment
lilyoyo1 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I completely agree. If they say they are doing something, I know it's going to get done at some point and it's going to be done right. 2 Link to comment
cswelin Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 7:51 AM, lilyoyo1 said: I can understand that. In the end you have to do what you feel is best for you. Even if Michel said next year, if UDI isn't ready for it by then it'll be 2021. I can respect that he'd lose you as a customer vs rushing out something premature which will cause much more consternation. Since Polisy doesn't use Java and the ISY will end up being Ported to that, I do feel the end is near. However, knowing how methodical they are, it's probably some ways off prior to being released. If you can't wait that long to be done with Java, you can always come back once the change is made (if you don't like your new system). You already have your ISY so it's not like you have to invest in it again (unless you get rid of it). Quote the ISY will end up being Ported to that, Has this been confirmed? I've been tempted to purchase one, but if this is true, then its a no brainer for me. Link to comment
lilyoyo1 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, cswelin said: Has this been confirmed? I've been tempted to purchase one, but if this is true, then its a no brainer for me. Yes. It has been stated many times on here by Michel and it's on the Polisy webpage. With that said, it's not an immediate port. Knowing how UDI operates I don't see it happening for at least another year at the earliest though I most definitely could be wrong. Link to comment
cswelin Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, lilyoyo1 said: Yes. It has been stated many times on here by Michel and it's on the Polisy webpage. With that said, it's not an immediate port. Knowing how UDI operates I don't see it happening for at least another year at the earliest though I most definitely could be wrong. Excellent, good to hear. *opens wallet* Edited October 28, 2019 by cswelin Link to comment
icerabbit Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 So, having been run around, unable to log into my ISY nor use ISY Launcher via Mac OS X for ... I'm going to say at least a year now ... the solution will be to buy a new box??? Link to comment
paulbates Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 43 minutes ago, icerabbit said: So, having been run around, unable to log into my ISY nor use ISY Launcher via Mac OS X for ... I'm going to say at least a year now ... the solution will be to buy a new box??? What happened when you submitted a support ticket? 1 Link to comment
dbwarner5 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Motion Sensor II.... so now on 5.16b, I decided to update my MSII.... previously they were generic. This has entailed deleting the existing node, and re-linking the MS as a II. This has been a really frustrating process... My ISY has crashed twice, the admin console continues to crash as well. Upon restarting the admin console, either most items or all items show no status. System continually reports a System Busy Bar... This time it is on its roughly 20th bar.. and has ben cycling for about 15 minutes. Just stopped, and I have about 10% status reporting on my devices. Any ideas what's going on? Everything was stable up to this effort. Thanks. Link to comment
dbwarner5 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) Update: Clear Java cache, seems to help. The action I have been attempting is under options to eliminate the extra nodes. It is during this last update attempt that the Isy crashes and has to restart. Each reconnection to ISYthrough admin takes an extremely long time and generally only gives 20-80% of the status of my devices.... After restarting and clearing java cache, system seems to get stable again. Seems to be the eliminating of the nodes causes the problems. Edited December 30, 2019 by dbwarner5 Link to comment
dbuss Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, dbwarner5 said: Update: Clear Java cache, seems to help. The action I have been attempting is under options to eliminate the extra nodes. It is during this last update attempt that the Isy crashes and has to restart. Each reconnection to ISYthrough admin takes an extremely long time and generally only gives 20-80% of the status of my devices.... Does your firmware and UI match? Link to comment
dbwarner5 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 update. things have seemed to settle down after a few more reboots of Isy and the admin, and java clears. Begging to think it just doesn't like the adjustments to the nodes. Link to comment
Tntmold Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I just bought an isy99i and am trying to use it for the first time (Windows 7). I updated to the latest Java release, and can get to http://isy, but when I try to open the admin console, I get Java error "The application cannot be run" Name:com.universaldevices.client.ui.UDCli..., location: http://isy Reason: java.security.cert.CertPathValidatorException: Response is unreliaable: its validity interval is out-of-date. How do I solve this problem? Link to comment
lilyoyo1 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Tntmold said: I just bought an isy99i and am trying to use it for the first time (Windows 7). I updated to the latest Java release, and can get to http://isy, but when I try to open the admin console, I get Java error "The application cannot be run" Name:com.universaldevices.client.ui.UDCli..., location: http://isy Reason: java.security.cert.CertPathValidatorException: Response is unreliaable: its validity interval is out-of-date. How do I solve this problem? 99 or 994? If 99 it doesn't work with it as it hasn't been updated in about 5 years Edited January 25, 2020 by lilyoyo1 Link to comment
Tntmold Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Just now, lilyoyo1 said: 99 or 994? If 99 it doesn't work with it as it hasn't been updated in about 5 years It is a 994i Link to comment
lilyoyo1 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Are you using the launcher or browser? If launcher, I would look at either giving it permission in Java or checking to see if your antivirus is preventing it from opening Link to comment
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