K-bert Posted September 18 Posted September 18 Good day, I upgraded my EISY this morning using the update button on the admin console. I then went to work and several hours later I found that I could not access the EISY on the mobile app. "Error: Requested ISY not online. 503" The PG3 part seems to be working as I received notifications that my nodes have connected. After dinner this evening I tried to access the system with my laptop on my home network. The ISY finder found it right away and I was able to log in using my credentials. None of my devices statuses are displayed. The flag in the bottom left is yellow and it says "Initializing System". I do have the status bar with the same title that fills up from 0% to 100%, but then just starts over again at zero. This is the first time I have ever had trouble with an update. Any advice on what I should try to fix this? K-Bert
K-bert Posted September 18 Author Posted September 18 I should mention that I can see the firmware version as 5.8.4 in the admin console. I can navigate to PG3 in my browser but I cannot log in. I get a failure server response message. K-Bert
K-bert Posted September 18 Author Posted September 18 Yes. I can reboot from the admin console while the initializing status bar is on the screen. I get notifications on the mobile app, but it still fails. The notifications in order received are: PG3 is stopping PG3 is starting eisy xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx Notification Node Server Standard Edition Startup. I am able to log into PG3 now and all my nodes claim to be connected. However this time when I tried to log into the admin console I received an "XML Parse Error https://...." instead of the log in window. So I'm pretty sure the unit isn't bricked, but the IoX is very unhappy. K-Bert
K-bert Posted September 18 Author Posted September 18 And another attempt and I am back to the "Initializing System" status bar. K-Bert
atmarosi Posted September 18 Posted September 18 Wish I had something to suggest. If no one else does there is always a ticket with UDI.
K-bert Posted September 18 Author Posted September 18 If I can't get this sorted by tomorrow evening I will certainly be submitting a ticket. I just don't want to do that until I find out that there isn't a simple fix. K-Bert
K-bert Posted September 18 Author Posted September 18 Two more error messages I have received when I tried to turn devices on or off using the admin console: "Socket Open Failed java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: no further information" and "Could not set file modified timestamp [./FILES/CONF/DEF/f10]" "Could not set file modified timestamp [./FILES/DEF/f1/i1/emap]" I'm afraid I don't know what they mean. K-Bert
K-bert Posted September 18 Author Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Javi said: Please open a ticket Done.
Geddy Posted September 18 Posted September 18 @K-bert even though you opened a ticket have you performed a full power cycle of the eisy? Either by pressing the power button (Multi function button) 6 times to force it to shutdown or by pressing and holding or pulling the power supply. Also be sure that you cleared the Java cache and download a new start.jnlp from the UD site (https://isy.universal-devices.com/start.jnlp) Also, since you did open a ticket please be sure to post back what steps were performed to fix this so it might help others in the future. Finally, what IoX Firmware were you updating from? And what Firmware version did you upgrade to?
K-bert Posted September 18 Author Posted September 18 I have done a full reboot with the removal of the power cord. I updated from 5.8.3 to 5.8.4. From the ticket I am told that the PLM likely has gone bad. Although none of my z-wave devices are working either. I have the next procedure to test when I am home again. From the ticket: 1. Unplug the PLM, wait 1 minute, plug back in 2. Press/hold the power button on eisy->red. Click again blue 3. Check the PLM status again. If disconnected, then the PLM is dead. You might qualify for some discounts from insteon (I am not sure when they expire): https://www.universal-devices.com/celebrate-insteon/ Please note that when you have a new PLM, you MUST do a Restore PLM. Please follow the instructions here: https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:File_Menu#Restore_Modem_(PLM) K-Bert 1
K-bert Posted September 18 Author Posted September 18 Unexpected update: While I was still at work my wife left the house and I received a notification from UD Mobile that the garage door was opened. I opened the app and it is all connected and working now. No idea why/how. K-Bert 1
Geddy Posted September 18 Posted September 18 36 minutes ago, K-bert said: I opened the app and it is all connected and working now. No idea why/how. I might still suggest the steps above to troubleshoot when you're home. At least check by controlling devices through admin locally first. If it seems that everything is good then that's a good thing, but it could be a flaky PLM that's misbehaving before it dies. It is odd that you say no z-wave devices are working wither. Are you running any firewalls on computers or routers? Do you have any non-default DNS servers loaded into your router? (sometimes alternate DNS entries could potentially block random sites without people knowing)
K-bert Posted September 18 Author Posted September 18 My router set up has worked for years and nothing has changed. Pretty much everything is set to a static IP so I don't have to worry about conflicts. I did call my wife and tried controlling devices both through the admin console (remote desktop to the home PC) and the mobile app. It was all working. I wouldn't be surprised if the PLM is going bad. It is about eleven years old. I purchased it shortly after moving into the house. It is a USB PLM that I used with a Raspberry Pi running a free home automation server. Near as I can tell the person who wrote it sold it and it was removed from the internet. I then moved to an ISY994 and bought a Serial PLM. Since I, like so many others, disposed of the USB to Serial PLM cable (I didn't even know it was in the box) I just switched to the USB PLM when I upgraded to the EISY. As for the Z-Wave not working, my only guess would be that the EISY was spending all its time/resources trying to initialize the PLM that it just wouldn't do anything else. Doesn't sound likely though. I will order a new USB PLM from the Canadian distributor when they have them back in stock. It claims that the units built from 2023 has upgraded electronics and should be more robust. K-Bert
technoroom Posted October 5 Posted October 5 (edited) I started having the exact same set of issues tonight. I have been on 5.8.4 for a few weeks. Signed on to the admin console. A pop-up window appeared saying there are package updates available, please click Update Packages, etc., which I did. After a couple minutes another pop-up appeared saying the update was complete and I should reboot. When the reboot was complete, I signed back on to the admin console (the eisy STILL said 5.8.4 in the finder...strange) and a pop-up appeared saying it was doing a query all on my Z-Wave devices, which I had never seen before. The text in the window then changed to "Please do not power off/unplug the system or make adjustments to linked/attached devices", etc. That window stays up for a long time, until I get another pop-up prompting me to sign on again with my userid and password. I fill them in and click OK, then get a pop-up saying I need to start a new session and the entire admin console closes. Signing on with the admin console again, the same thing happens over and over. I have tried unplugging the eisy and letting it set for a couple minutes; have tried updating the packages again; tried uninstalling the admin console, clearing all Java caches and reinstalling; tried unplugging the PLM, letting it set, then plugging in -- all had the same result. Clicking on the Programs tab, the list of programs is empty, and I get a pop-up saying "Could not set file modified timestamp [./FILES/CONF/DEF/f10]" "Could not set file modified timestamp [./FILES/DEF/f1/i1/emap]" And just like the previous user, none of my Z-Wave devices are working. Edited October 5 by technoroom Added info
Techman Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Others are also having issues with the latest update, 5.8.4_1. It's best to wait for a bug fix. 2
technoroom Posted October 6 Posted October 6 (edited) On 10/4/2024 at 10:30 PM, technoroom said: I started having the exact same set of issues tonight. I have been on 5.8.4 for a few weeks. [snip] On a hunch, I replaced all the electrolytic capacitors in my serial PLM (it is a few years old) and all is well again, including Z-Wave. Very interesting eisy symptoms to come out of a failing PLM. But there it is. Edited October 6 by technoroom
Techman Posted October 6 Posted October 6 @technoroom The PLM only supports Insteon and has no relationship with Zwave.
Guy Lavoie Posted October 7 Posted October 7 The fix was probably more related to something else you did, like restart the eisy. The problematic update has been rolled back.
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