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This is only if you ping a bad host that contain the exploit. If you don't go around pinging everything withing a polisy shell, then no worries.

Yes weird, and how does it differentiate which one to use in my case, where I have ZMatter installed and Zooz stick also... wonder if they prioritize the Zooz dongle?

They sent out emails regarding firware bugs with cause the migration method which to relies on the SiLabs firmware to make things corrupt. It further explains that the have tried to develop an alternate migration method, which uses ISY information to reconstruct the network onto the new dongle, but there is concern of routing issues using this method. ETA is Tuesday 13th now for a version, in the worst case without migration if they don't have it solved by that time. Since I have only 20 Z Wave devices, I can decide if I want to just manually add them back in similar to what I did almost a year ago when moving to Polisy. I don't have too many programs or scenes. If it is a similar process it won't be that big of a deal for me. In this case, I would hope that UDI provides an overview how to do this.. eg. document all ZWave devices, exclude them all from ISY, then remove Zooz USB dongle. Enable ZMatter/software upgrade and include each zwave device back in one by one and add into appropriate program/scenes.

I noticed for past couple days the message at top of forum announcing the Zmatter update delay is gone. A possible reason that they removed is they decided that are unable to resolve by 9th so they decided to take down the message. I hope that is not the case, but there have been no further progress updates... just silence. Just wondering if it is still on track for 9th or should I make alternate plans for this weekend, like instead maybe spend time with my wife LOL?!?

Ya shut it off and/or reformat the device it is on so never runs again. When I did this for a couple node servers, they still remained in PG2 so removed PG2 after and it then sent a command to ISY and removed from there so I had to delete from ISY and re-install.

@FerventGeekRegarding your other posts recently, you state that are migrating to Polisy but don't have a PLM cable. It seems that based on the version 5.3.4 you are probably still connected to your ISY994i.

Since adding ZMatter board and antennas, I cannot rest the Polisy on its side anymore on top of wall mounted UPS I went looking for a nice wall mount shelf and just purchased this... will update with pics when I get. https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B09TFZ2FVR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

@FerventGeekI used a cisco rollover cable but I just cut the RJ45 end off and crimped a new one based on the pinouts in diagrams and user manual. I think it was only three wires. Note that the wire colors don't seem to be standard from one cisco cable to another - I have several with different color combinations. If you don't have a tool, you can just cut the wire mid-point and use a multi-meter to reconnect the wires correctly.

Ok, so what is the process upgrading from Zooz USB to ZMatter?

Good to hear there is a Canadian supplier. I just got my reship notice earlier and cost me additional $45 USD to ship it to me. Hopefully everything is all sorted out by time I get (hopefully end of week but my luck will be help up until next Monday). Like most new things, I expect the novelty/excitement to wear off in about 30 sec. upon installation

You don't need the keyed D Shaped holes... just tighten them down good... unless you are constantly moving the antennas around it will not be an issue.

No, it should be left slot. Probably doesn't matter though really but I would put it in left as per instructions. I don't think there will be a process release to migrate until 12/01/2022 as per email. We are very excited to let you know that we received the ZMatter modules in full, and sample testing has been completed. While we put the final touches on the IoX (ISY on Anything) – especially backup/restore – we decided to start shipping out the orders by tomorrow (11/23). Preparations: 1. If your Polisy has been collecting dust for more than a year, the first thing you need to do is to freshen it up. Here’s how you do it. Once done, you can access your Polisy just like you did your ISY994. Here’s how to do so. 2. If you have not already migrated your ISY994 to Polisy, that’s the first thing you need to do. Migration is easy and you can even use your existing PLM for INSTEON/X10 communications. Here are the instructions. 3. You will be sent further instructions for the required IoX version and how-tos for untapping our additional features and enhancements by 12/01/2022. Installation Instructions: 1. Unplug Polisy from power 2. Take off the top panel by unscrewing the 4 screws on the sides (2 on each side) 3. Connect the SMA side of the antenna wires into the two holes on each side of the top panel 4. Plugin the ZMatter board into the first mPCIe slot from the left. Ensure that it latches in just like the SSD. Please note, you may not have a WiFI card. 5. Align the top panel on top of Polisy and move it backward so that you can see the u.FL connectors on the board. 6. Gently push in the u.FL side of the antenna wires into the u.FL connectors. Ensure that they click in 7. Gently push the top panel back so that it’s flush with the bottom and screw back the 4 screws on the sides 8. Attach the antennas one on each side. NOTE: facing the front of the unit · Z-Wave antenna has a Yellow band on top and goes to the left · Zigbee antenna has a Red band on top and goes to the right Enjoy the beauty! With Kind regards, ************************************************* UD Sales Store: https://www.universal-devices.com/store Information (Wiki): https://wiki.universal-devices.com Information (Forum): https://forum.universal-devices.com Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter http://www.universal-devices.com *************************************************

Oh, hope you have an alternate source moving forward if cannot still get with that one.

Just got an email that is shipping tomorrow along with hardware installation instructions in the email. No indication yet how to upgrade ZWave for IoX... they say more instructions by Dec 1. 😂

I have long disabled Query on startup since it seems to lock up the ISY for long period of time and proves troubleshooting difficult. I write my own query app that I maintain manually for only the things I require to query on startup. I set the program to run at startup. Some things don't have query option in program like Zen17 binary sensor so I use a network resource. I still let Query run at 3am and seems to work, but while it is running makes ISY unusable, especially after an update.

I am guessing no, they just changed date to 24th on their site.

Can't wait... https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/baby?iso=20221124T00&p0=5511&msg=ZMatter+Released+%3F&font=cursive

What are the release notes 5.4.5? Cloud also didn’t work for me earlier.

I agree using Node server to do the non Thread devices will be the answer... and probably even possible without the ZMatter board (unless it is needed for security). Regarding OP question about exposing devices, Michel posted this a while ago.

Is this board going to actually be using Thread? Everything I read elsewhere refers to the radio portion Matter can use being called "Thread", which is an RF protocol that Matter runs on top of (Matter can also use other protocols such as WiFi). However with Polisy, it is advertised that the RF module as being called "Matter", not "Thread" which does not seem is the right nomenclature to me because the RF portion shouldn't be referred to as "Matter".

Yes very easy to make one... I used one of these (I have many laying around from old Cisco days)... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollover_cable I cut off the existing RJ45 end, then checked continuity using a multi-meter on the serial port end to locate the wires for appropriate pins 2, 3, and GND. Note that not all cables are made same and some have different colors, so cannot really make a guide based on color. I then used a new RJ45 crimp connect and connected the correct wires pins to 1,7,8. Since I work in IT, have experience in cabling/terminating, and I have these tools, it may be be a challenge for many others. Therefore what you can do is cut the existing cable back a bit further or in half, and just figure out which wires on each end correspond to what pins using a multi-meter and reconnect the wires appropriately (preferably solder, but twisting/taping would work) instead of crimping a new end on. Lots available here for cheap.... https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=cisco+console+cable&_sacat=0

The backup is not tricky at all, I explained how I did on page 3 and others have done since. What makes you think the Zooz dongle is failing and its not the Polisy and/or something on your Z-Wave network? If the Zooz Z-Wave dongle is failing, chances are it would not be intermittent and would just stop working... considering that you are able to get it working again by rebooting tells me that it is not the dongle since others have had issues like this including myself. This is probably one reason why UD is moving to the custom ZMatter board because they realize that the Zooz dongle is not very reliable. If you want best Z-Wave support now, the best bet is/was to get the ZMatter board for your Polisy (if it is still available for preorder) - you are going to need it anyways for EISY. I am not as optimistic that the EISY is going to be available next month, other than possibly a preorder which could have a shipping date in December or going into next early year.

@asbrilThere was no significant difference updating firmware on the Zooz... I did only because I was having problems with a Zen25 double plug but seems like it did not fix it. In my case the Zen25 seemed to be flooding the Z-Wave network with updates about itself which caused the network to die. Unplugging Zen25, disabling in IoP, and rebooting Polisy fixed. Since you have a lot of Z-Wave devices, I suggest that you look at the logs and see if you can see a particular device that is sending lots of traffic. Edit.. I found this huge thread about problems with Zen25 on hubitat.... too long to read but don't think there is a resolution. https://community.hubitat.com/t/incident-zooz-double-plug-model-zen25/58017/358

From my understanding, the Z-Wave USB hardware devices like the Zooz store all the node information about your Z-Wave devices, and the ISY would communicate with it at a higher level. For example, when I upgraded my defective Zooz stick (which had problem doing OTW firmware update), I backed it up to a file on PC and restored to the new stick and ISY did not even realize that anything changed. I believe what will happen is that UD will backup the existing series 500/700 boards' configuration, and then write that node information back to the new ZMatter devices in its format. This probably requires some translation between how the devices work.

The upgrade looks trivial... its a mini PCI Express card and these just pop in with edge connector and some screws to secure to standoffs on the mainboard. Then mount the antennas on Polisy case and click in the antenna connectors onto the board. Since I have a Polisy already, and lots of Z-Wave devices, it is a no-brainer for me to upgrade to the Zmatter - especially with all the promised Z-Wave features; UD made it pretty clear that there is no more feature support for the Zooz dongle. The Polisy/Zooz combination will probably very soon become like the ISY994i with the old 300 series board where you have to use an older ISY firmware to make Z-Wave continue to work. This would explain why they offer to buy back your Zooz dongle, because it makes them less obligated from ongoing support. Of course, I could be wrong on all this, but since they are switching to new Z-Wave API I would not see them doing much more working on old version and having to be concerned back-porting new features breaking integration. Even if I was compelled to upgrade to an EISY in near future, I would still probably buy another ZMatter board for it. I would most likely re-sell Polisy, and having one without a ZMatter card would not make it as appealing to resell vs. a complete unit.