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Hello Bert, Answers inline and if there are any other related questions please do ask them here until you get registered. We all look forward to seeing your project and stand ready to serve.

So say we all. . . [emoji4] Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

Agreed on many points listed above. This is probably why I have waited so very long in integrating my HVAC to Insteon. Given I have seven T1800 at the ready for install they simply monitor temperature / humidity in specific zones in the home. I live in the cold *** north and I can't allow anything to cut off the heat when its -45'C! This is probably why I have spent so much time designing and integrating so many environmental fail overs that at some point will bolster the Insteon TSTAT to ensure there is always a 3rd party device collaborating the temperatures in and around the home. Sometimes its the KISS principle we all should follow and adhere to. As much as I like to automate my life and my home there is a constant reminder some of this will be abused, or falter at some point. I am interested in seeing what the OP does moving forward with the ISY because this will be quite telling for those who follow.

Well, the reality is all of us are guilty in circumventing what isn't supposed to be there from the start. This time five years ago Liftmaster never had a remote access GDO, they do now. But, before that the GDO was line of sight and that was on purpose because you had to be in view of this device to operate it. Given the massive emergence of remote connectivity this has cascaded in allowing all of us the ability to control almost anything in and around the home. The GDO kit and its like has never been a endorsed piece of hardware from any GDO maker. We all simply did this so the fault is on the end user not the maker who simply wanted to fill a market space of wants. Xathros suggestion is the best solution moving forward since you have the hardware in place.

Blueman2, If you have been here long enough and have read my past replies here and abroad the SH forum. You know I have no problem throwing Smartlabs / Smarthome under the bus when warranted. Having said that, Smarthome / Smartlabs does not advertise their wares are security devices and makes in big bold print common sense and related hardware must be used at all times to ensure health and safety for all. At this point the easiest thing to do is remove the ISY for awhile and sit and wait. If the ALL ON / ALL OFF comes back there are other outside factors causing this. I've asked many people to follow this simple yet effective line of thought and trouble shooting and not one has ever done so, none. You will be the first to drop the hammer and see what happens. The reality is as many have already stated this issue has never been seen before. Now, we see a smattering of people having this erratic behavior from time to time. As you may be aware the latest PLM v2.0 with firmware v.9E has removed the ALL ON / ALL OFF command from its table. Yet this issue continues to persist this isn't a PLM issue at this point in time. Smartlabs is also in the middle of removing this command from all future Insteon devices also. The reality is if you remove both the controller / PLM and you still see this issue you have bigger worries moving forward.

I have one reserved for s ceiling fan / light combo. But won't be enrolled until next quarter. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

I've had great success with the mini remote and overall it provides lots of flexibility in placement or install. I have several in place as a virtual KPL on a wall where there is no AC power. That in itself has been a god send! I have another one mounted under my car visor and it activates a very specific *Away State* in the HA system which is tied to a secondary alarm feature. I still do covet the much larger 2440 RL as it offers some features not available in the mini. Battery life for the micro is great given the daily use I apply to it. The only negative is not having the ability to apply custom keys besides using a printer. Otherwise it's a rock solid product in my mind. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

Also, not too sure if they have resolved the past issue of buzzing. This noise appears to be present on the relay KPL only so keep that in mind. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

One other thing to keep in mind the relay version is thicker. The relay version also has a higher power handling capability. Note, the relay version also has a much larger ground wire so this could pose a install issue. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

One is a switch relay the other is a dimmer. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

Hello Alex, This would explain what I saw too last night! Much thanks for that insight as I thought I was going mad with all the other issues I've been seeing as of late! [emoji30][emoji34][emoji36] Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

I am taking a random stab this is related to multi node support which is pending the beta 5.XX release. If it's not that then the device obviously needs Z-Wave support which I am sure UDI will add when time permits. I suggest you create a formal ticket so it's tracked and they can give you an ETA if it's pending 5.XX release. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

Links are retained when power is removed. The Insteon bulb returns to its last known state upon power loss. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

I would think it comes down to what kind of interface is available from the existing TSTAT. Knowing this will allow you and others to provide some feedback. If you could provide a link to the product in place this would be a good start for others review and consume. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

You can certainly try and see what happens nothing lost but your time!

Good grief! [emoji16][emoji30] Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

Depending upon the light fixture if you toggle it on/off the light will stay on without a timer. If it doesn't have that feature turning off the micro switch will remove power from the light until you turn it back on. All the sense wire does is inform the Insteon micro the light is on/off. This provides you a current known state of on/off. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

The Micro is a dual band device so both RF/ Powerline. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

Your ISY more than likely has upnp checked thus this message is present. If you're not connected to the Internet how do you suppose you're going to download the firmware file? Magic? [emoji45][emoji6] Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

Agreed, one is a one time install. The other is a endless futile attempt in maintenance and does not offer you direct control of the motion light. All it does is turn it on! Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

Than in that case assuming it's not dual bright you can install a micro relay on/off module to control and manage this Motion Light. The micro is small enough to install within the JBOX. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

I'm not sure how that would offer you any new lighting besides turning on an existing outdoor light fixture? [emoji47] Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

Most standard motion lights will operate just fine with the new micro modules which has a 120 VAC sense lead. Dual bright units normally cause issues or don't work at all. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

Xathros, As always your insight and feed back is most appreciated. You're correct after clearing the nag prompt the back up does appear to continue even if its much slower to progress. I believe as part of my SOP is to stop all network connections for those few moments while this process is underway. The 2-7 minutes isn't going to kill me . . . As for the folder color, I am going to just monitor it and see if anything negative comes out of it. As far as I can tell it isn't impacting the system from operating at all. I really wish a legend would be provided in the system as to what the colors mean when they appear. This would assist new users and those who don't enter the Admin Console on a consistent basis. Scouring the forums for a cryptic phrase in hopes of finding out what it means is a process to insanity at times. This is why I am a strong supporter of standardized naming conventions and titles, with tags!

So just moments ago the folders have changed color again? I am not sure if this is related to those annoying socket errors I see from time to time. I have never had any issues making a back up image before in previous releases. But, now when I perform a back up I see several of these time out socket whatever error messages. It makes me doubt the quality of the back ups being produced and generated by the system. As I have noted during several Beta releases, the message from UDI indicates certain firmware levels did not create proper back ups. Am I safe to assume no one knows why the folder is a different color not listed or known to any human being on this board??