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Yes, as the attributes are held in the ISY.

As I understand how it works based on what we know now. A message is sent and it has three tries to do so in an allocated period of time. It must always use up one hop to start and to get to the receiver device. It would thus have only two more tries to retransmit the command. What I have been seeing in the last few months is a change in behavior in how these hops are being reflected to us via the Level 3 reporting page. It could be this is due to a change in ISY firmware or Insteon device hardware (firmware). In the last few months I have seen what appears to be i3CS features and COM attributes being incorporated into various existing and new products. For example we have never seen resume dim, message clean up, repeat hops, variable settings for low battery, variable heart beat, etc. These are features spoken about in other forums and threads so the fact the OP shows three hops left leaves me to believe its either a COM issue. Or the new Level 3 logs are showing us information portrayed in a different manner than we have come to expect, or see. Back on topic to the OP: Since the device doesn't work now simply bring it inside let it warm up and report back operations of the relay when pushed manually and via the ISY.

I only mention the COM's because it did not decrement by 1. He had a initial three and a final three left over. Which in our experience is impossible because that would mean nothing was sent or received, no? [emoji46] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It could be the cold or its failing. Since you already did s factory reset I would confirm all the wiring is firm and sound. Don't just look at it pull on the wires to ensure they are tight and inserted. If in doubt remove one wire at a time inspect and insert back. Do the same thing for the GDO side. If you have a small heater try to warm up the unit and report back success / failure. I've had mine in the garage for more than five years and in -45'C weather and has worked like a champ. To be fair to Smartlabs this is well outside the operating range so can't throw stones at them in my case. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No, there is no method I am aware of that will disable local control via a program. I have only seen LED, Beep, Toggle, Mutual exclusive, cross linking while using 8 buttons in a 6 button frame (wide button use). This also does not cover any kind of *options* that can be configured via the UI. There is a program lock but that simply stops a person from making changes but does not stop them from using the switches.

You mean from it even working locally?

Michael, Can you expand on that statement a little?

Anything is possible you could simply hard reset it and use the restore device afterwards and see.

Based on the trace it says you have bad COM's.

Insteon over the years has improved their QA since launch. Having said this you need to know the actual current draw of the sump pump motor and this does not take into account the starting current. In rush current to start a pump can be five times the normal duty cycle for the briefest of seconds. This along with CEMF (counter electro magnetic field) are what kill sensitive electronics when the field collapses. I know the latest dual outlet is made sturdier than its previous generation brother. But, there is no guarantee that large spikes and in rush current will not cause a lock up.

You should also check to see if the ISY is being blocked by any in suite fire wall / anti virus. If so please do white list the ISY for access so this isn't an issue. This may also be a case where a browsers pop up settings have changed or set too high. Another thing to check is to use in private browsing and see if it makes a difference if the above does not work.

NOTE: There are actually three distinct issues with respect to the keys. One is that the actual physical keys are either whiter or darker. The other is when the keys are back lit even when looking at the same outside color (it looks the same hue of white) when they are lit this is where you see whiter or yellow. The last issue is when you receive or have older KPL keys and the actual OEM green is slightly different. Most people would not notice this at first glance but anyone who is keen in photography or where visuals are important will notice right away. Regardless of all of the above using custom keys, along with the 25 / 50 pack is one of the best things you can do for that professional and custom look. Lots of people bag on Insteon (including myself when warranted) but they hands down have the best selection, looks, and feel of any HA device. UPB, Z-Wave, Lutron, all look and feel like complete aszz.

OP, All of us were right there where you are now. You get the HA bug and you try to think about all the things you want to automate and make life easier. Nothing wrong with that, so long as you fully understand the limitations and potential risks involved. Insteon has never been endorsed or sold as a life saving, security, or risk management solution. Insteon is a great secondary solution for a primary system in place. If there was ever a time the KISS principle applied it would be in this situation. Given you already know seasonal rains brings lots of water that must be evacuated from the sump do you really want to come home to find out a surge event locked up the outlet?? There are also a few people who are dealing with a ALL ON / ALL OFF situation which I hope you never experience. Imagine if the system turned off both outlets when rainy season was upon you? The only three things I ever suggest and recommend is: Install a Type 3 surge outlet in place, install a back up sump pump, install a battery back up system in case of a power failure. Using any combination of Insteon you can receive alert notifications and have the system react and do something else. It doesn't matter if it turns on a siren, strobe, light, telephone you, sms, e-mail.

The font looks super dark and bolded unless this is a photo issue. The one thing I do is ensure if a KPL is being customized I do the entire frame. Also order all at the same time. Experience has taught me this reduces variability. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I can tell you from personal experience you better pass on automating the power control to the sump pump. I would suggest you use Insteon to monitor, alert, and do something else. Don't use Insteon to power the pump. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What your showing is actually typical of what I have seen. The problem is when SH flip flops between the two plastic colors. There are actually three problems here. One is the OEM keys that come in the KPL. The other is the 25/50 set kits. The last is the custom keys. This also depends what year you purchased the sets from. I have four sets of the 50 kit and two are different then the other two. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes, its more than likely you will find some of the keys a different hue of white. You will also notice that some of the keys when back lit actually appear to be yellow opposed to white. This variation appears to be in different years of release. NOTE: The custom key font colors are a shade of grey where as the OEM keys are a shade of green. At close inspection you can tell right away but the casual user will not.

Hello Paul, You can absolutely use the Venstar T1800 with just a 24 VAC transformer I do that already with five of them. Back in the day I had this grand plan of deploying remote temp / humidity sensing. I was extremely lucky that someone was selling the units in bulk at blow out prices so I picked up eight of them. Later on I became heavily invested in the Energy Monitoring and reduction goal. With a 5 watt draw, times eight units on line 24/7 that would be a 40 watt vampire draw I wasn't willing to have. So, this led me to researching other methods to monitor and obtain accurate temperatures for the home. After waiting patiently for almost two years I found a 1 wire solution that integrates perfectly with the ISY Series Controller. The benefit is that I was able to expand this system in the future. There are currently 32 1 wire sensor wires deployed in and around the home monitoring all aspects from outside temps, equipment, rooms, HVAC, Water, Plumbing, and Soil. With the excellent help and assistance of our most favored ISY member Xathros I have been able to monitor and do some great programs which monitor, alert, and react to the homes local environment. Running two miles of CAT6 cable is probably not something everyone is able to do if a entire house is finished. But, if you have the ability, time, and patience to even run four cables to an area and utilize a 1 wire network the investment in time and effort will pay for itself for years to come. PROS: Low power, consistent, reliable, expandable, multi purpose install. CONS: Requires running infrastructure wiring in key areas, needs another device (cost) to have 1 wire.

I have not changed the topic but have tried to address your replies with answers that are relevant and Germaine to the issue at hand. This is obviously a lot harder when replies are given hours, days later, and thus the conversation is not fluid. This is why I try to use the quote feature to ensure my replies are direct and specific to the question posed. In the same vain, I use factual examples to support my position to better express my thoughts, ideas, and over all view. It's obvious we both use different words or have opposing views on the topic at hand. At the end of the day I believe we have the same goal and that is to provide the best support and experience via the ISY Series Controller. My participation in this thread was to provide supporting details, screen shots, examples of features either not supported, broken, or impacted by a unknown bug. Is this not the purpose of these discussions and forums? [emoji45] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Are you saying for example the current selling lamp linc module has no options? That even though a EOL product which hasn't been updated (HL2 Software) which does offer and supports basic settings are not going to be implemented in the ISY? [emoji52] Further more, your reply counters what you stated about supporting what ever the device is capable of (if known). [emoji53] So now your position is UDI will support only what ever it feels like. Opposed to what the Insteon device is (firmware) enabled to do?? Your reply today is very much like the MS sensor update, upon wake up. Which makes no sense to me or those who asked many years ago. As you shot it down indicating it could not, would not be done. Fast forward 2-3 years later magically this feature is available?? [emoji55] If this is the path you're going to follow make it known so we all can decide what to do in the future. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I would humbly suggest you abandon this solution and pursue a tried and true method via 1-wire. Using programs you can monitor and set temperature state and then activate a Insteon device to cool, heat, shut down. The benefit of going this route is no lag, 100% on time, and no batteries to change or RF / power line to worry about. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I believe some kind of calendar feature is being worked on in firmware 5.XX. There is no timeline to its release but know it's on the road map for 2015. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If you do a search there is a forum post about making a program that mimics a combination lock. Once the combination is seen by the ISY it would then fire off a email alert. Because you can define a code to reflect a person this would help you know who it is. NOTE: The basic code did not actually open the door due to security concerns. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Just to be clear: You're seeing a flip flop of the relay status when queried, correct? If so this is the expected behavior. If you use trigger reverse and query this will cause nothing but headaches and also is not recommended. If your problem is that your sensor status is NOT showing an accurate state. This is likely a COM issue in the network. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Are you using trigger reverse option? Also are you monitoring the relay or the sensor? The relay should not be monitored only the sensor. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk