Michel Kohanim

Hello Frank, Rand and Mark have already answered (correctly) the device properties' utility. Now, let's get back to the question of losing your properties since this might be a bug: In the past, have you replaced any of the KPLs (using the replace method)? With kind regards, Michel

Hello Dave, No. It behaves the same simply because we have not yet added support for the extra features of KPL 1.5+. With kind regards, Michel

upstatemike and JAJ, Apologies for a tardy reply ... as I mentioned before, we can maintain the state of a scene. We just have to make sure we're not doing something to confuse those who do not understand the Unified Scene Theory! As a matter of fact, this thread is added to the list of our enhancements. With kind regards, Michel Not much response... No, though perhaps this particular question has become redundant with the introduction of your unified scene theory . With that in place, the user can have both indications even if ISY maintains only a single scene state. Now the question is, how much of this theory will be implemented, and when is it coming... ?

Hello JAJ, We do have a Trigger 2.0 planned which might include the nested conditions. I still don't understand why you cannot use folders and nest them: If folder 1 is true If folder 2 is true If folder 3 is true If Program is True Run Then Else Run Else Of course this does not give you nested Else but it's a start. With kind regards, Michel

Hello d_l, Yes, they are evaluated every time there's a change in state of any device or time. I have already captured the requirement to rename Run to Run Then and it should be in the next release. With kind regards, Michel

d_l, The programs are automatically evaluated and, if their conditions are true, are run. You can see their status on the summary page including their state. So, Running the 'If' makes it a little confusing. Does this mean: reevaluate the conditions? With kind regards, Michel Actually this was an idea about being able to make a program evaluate the "If" conditions when run from the Summary page or when run as a nested program. See: http://forum.universal-devices.com/view ... highlight=

Frank, Yes, all ISYs come with that program preloaded. It's up to you not to re-add it. The worst case scenario is: if you have programs that depend on the correct status of the devices and if those devices do not have the correct status, then your programs will not run as desired. With kind regards, Michel Hello Michel: Did all ISY-26s ship with this program? I don't remember it ever being on my system. Of course, long ago when I first got the ISY, I was having many comm problems. I think I that at that time I performed a factory reset, and thereby may have removed it. But then again, life has been just fine without the "3 am" program. Why add it back and rock the boat? Most PLM-related Comm Errors occur "sporadically" (at least for me), I'd probably rather not run the program, the more that I think about it. For instance, if I do an entire network query, it's not uncommon to have 1 or 2 failures. But if I requery those devices that had a failure, they're usually communicating just fine. I attribute these the the general weakness of the PLMs Insteon communication. Since you've written the code for the ISY such that it "tells" you the failed devices the next time that you log on, why should I want to keep seeing failures that don't amount to anything every time I log on due to the "3 am" query. This brings up another topic that is related, so I'm going to start a new thread for it. Best wishes,

Mark, What does Run If mean? With kind regards, Michel

edfinley, Yes, this feature shall be provided as a part of our 2.7/8 release in conjunction with SSL. With kind regards, Michel

Hi Rowland, We are going to provide this feature for KPLs 1.6 and above in the next release. With kind regards, Michel

blartyo, Yes, you are 100% correct: - Run means "Run Then" regardless of the condition - Run at Reboot means "Run Then" regardless of the condition With kind regards, Michel

Hello mohansen, Factory reset removes all the schedules. You might want to add back If Time is 3:00 A.M. Then Set My Lighting Query This code makes sure your ISY is in synch with your devices. Adding devices back one at a time and choosing the first option clears each device's database (unless there's a communication error) and, as such, you do not have to do a factory reset on your devices. What do you mean by " ... adding back my ELK configuration"? ISY should not be rebooted at any time and thus I consider this a bug. I'd appreciate as much input as possible. With kind regards, Michel

blartyo, Running a program from the Program Summary tab runs the program regardless of the condition. This is mostly used to test the outcome of your program. You can also choose "Run Else" which runs the Else path. With kind regards, Michel

mohansen, Please make sure you do not have any programs with "Run at Reboot" ... if you do, that might explain why all your lights come on when ISY is rebooted. With kind regards, Michel

Hello blartyo, Yes: anything that has to do with the underlying protocol (INSTEON) and common functionality (NTP/SMTP/SSL) will be released on all platforms (26 and 99). Otherwise, they will have their own schedules. With kind regards, Michel

Charlie, We are hoping to have this supported in our 2.7/8 release which would mean as soon as 45 days or as late as 120 days. With kind regards, Michel

Jim, Now I totally understand what you are saying ... apologies for the misunderstanding. I am thinking that it would be great if someone decided to spend a few hours to come up with Holidays programs (say for the next 5 years) which everyone can reuse and therefore also simplify what you are trying to accomplish. In any case, you are on the right path. Please do keep us posted with your progress. With kind regards, Michel

AnthemAVM, You do need the 126 at the end so: telnet 192.168.1.102 126 With kind regards, Michel MikeB, I got that, but when I put it in the command it comes back with a message Could not open connection with host, on port 23: Connection Failed. Sorry to ask so many questions.

Jim, Folder conditions just limit what programs are run within the folder and, based on what I gather, I don't think you want to use Folder Conditions. You are simply looking for a way to reuse the status of a program to constrain another program. So, I think, you would want to create standalone programs to be used as conditions in any other programs. Right? With kind regards, Michel And then I use it for folder control: Same thing for the 'Weekend' programs folder. What I'm not crazy about is that if anything happens between the 'from' and 'to' and either flag goes low, there is nothing to reset it until its initial start time again. I guess I could do some code: if both flags are low (actually they both will be low during the changeover), that is not a legitimate condition, I could do something with that. I'm also having a little trouble deciding how to do the manual override, which is the whole point of this. If a holiday occurs on a weekday, I want to enable the 'weekend' folder and disable the 'weekday' folder, ie, run the weekend schedule on the holiday. I'm sure nobody wants to get sucked into this one. I'm even wondering if it is worth the trouble!

d_l, Don't worry! I am almost as paranoid as you are: though we cannot really do much about denial of service attacks but in our next release will incorporate SSL/HTTPS to make the in/out bound more secure. At the moment, the only problem is the high cost of SSL certificates. With kind regards, Michel Thanks Michel. If I'm accessing the ISY without the "/0/x" , that must mean my dual WAN router's local loopback is working which is something that I wasn't certain about and haven't found a way to disable that function. Actually once I discovered this, I became a little concerned about anyone on the internet being able to partially access my ISY if the "/0/x" was not required. My thinking was that anyone could stumble across sending an http probe to my IP and its unique port without the "/0/x" and be able to see my ISY's main page contents in the background behind the login window. Although they could not access the ISY without passing the login, the positive response from the ISY might encourage intensive login cracking attempts. The "/0/x" in the address adds an extra little security twist. Lest anyone think I'm paranoid, I review my router logs regularly and do see what I think are hacking attempts and not simplistic trojan attacks on occasion.

Hi Mike, What's the difference between the two codes? In both cases, this should work fine. With kind regards, Michel

Jim, Hi, my only comment is that you do need the From and To in your first example. Have you given that a try? With kind regards, Michel This folder condition enables a program every 4 am that allows a motion sensor to turn on the den lights when motion is detected, but only the first one after 4 am. It won't turn on the lights every time during the day when it detects motion. When 4 am rolls around the next day, it will enable it again. This has worked 100% perfectly since I put it in. Even my wife likes it . The X10 is there just as a manual trigger for testing, etc. It seems like the schedule I have in the original post is pretty similar. Any comments anyone? Thanks.

d_l, /0/p is no longer needed ... we removed it a long time ago but we have left it there for backward compatibility. If you are accessing ISY remotely, you do need the /0/x otherwise you will get socket errors as Admin console will try to open a port to a local address as advertised by ISY. With kind regards, Michel

Hello all, Thanks so very much for your most invaluable feedback. We have a requirement for "Proper support of X10" which we'll be working on shortly. We'll surely take all this input into consideration while designing/implementing. This said, however, since we have not yet designed the solution we cannot really ascertain to what degree the solution will look like JAJ's Artistic Creation! With kind regards, Michel Thanks for the kind comments, one and all! I really hope Michel and/or Chris will chime in and let us know how much they would like to implement!

MikeB, Yes, we have a switching power supply - simply use the power supply that came with your 26 or send a request to sales@universal-devices.com for a new one. With kind regards, Michel