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Hi Stu, Thank you for the reply. I do have the LEDs in the scenes (as controllers) When I turn on or switch between scenes using the KPL everything is as it should be. If I turn on a scene using the remote the LED lights. If I then turn on another scene that LED lights as well. (both LEDs are on even though the buttons are Mutually Exclusive? Is this because the KPL buttons are mutually exclusive if pressed but the Remote buttons are not?) I think I'd like to try the Non Toggle On setting. I tried to make a program that would say this... If Scene ABC is not true Then turn LED scene off But the best I seem to be able to do is... New Program - [iD 000E][Parent 0001] If Control 'Big Room KPL-C-Cooking' is not switched On Then Set Scene 'Cooking LED' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') This doesn't seem to do what I want. Drew

Hi guys, I have a two part question. 1) I have a KPL and a mini remote that essentially mirror each other (B button on both trigger same scenes etc,) I have the KPL buttons as mutually exclusive so when I press the C button the D LED and scene change, etc. When I press the mini remote buttons the KPL LEDs stay lit even though the scene is no longer true. After a while all the KPL LEDs are lit. (I'm guessing I want to have a program that says "If scene C isn't true then shut off KPL LED C) 2) I would love to have the Mini Remote buttons set for Non Toggle On so they always trigger the scene on when pressed (as opposed to shutting the scene off depending on the state of the button then having to press the same button to turn the desired scene on) But this setting leaves all the KPL LEDs on (back to problem number 1) A this point I'd have to create a scene that would shut all the lights in the room in question off I'm assuming (I.E. When Mini Remote button H is pressed ON then run scene 'shut off all lights' or something like that.) This is a question solely to keep the wife happy. I cannot reiterate the same answers to "Why do all the lights shut off when I push the remote button?" and "All the LEDs are on on the KPL. Why?" (Although the second question has been reworded for the furor, I hear "Why are all the lights on on the light?") Any thoughts would be great. Drew

Hi guys, I have a light that is triggered by a KPL button (not the load) I have a program involved. I press the KPL C button and the light comes on. If the light is on for 4 minutes I have a program to shut the light off. The LED stays on. Am I supposed to make it a scene with the light and the KPL button in it or something like that? Drew

Hi Brian; First off thank you for the fast reply. I followed the link and read through it. I downloaded a file called admin16.jnlp When I click on it I have the same versions now. I've not done anything else so I'm unclear if I'm doing it right. For a while now I've noticed I have to download an odd looking file and click on that to get my ISY GUI up. I used to have an actual app called ISY994i Console. I use a MAC so I'm not sure if this is the new way things are done or if I'm missing something. When I first click on the .jnlp file it says its downloading to my desktop (nothing ends up being there so I assume its a temp file that doesn't stay) I just move the .jnlp file to my Apps folder and use that. I find this odd as it wasn't always like this. Is there something I'm missing? Drew

Hi Guys; I had many communication issues and one of the solutions a member said was to ensure the versions for the UI and the firmware matched. I've updated this morning and see that the Firmware is 4.6.2 and the UI is 4.5.4 Is there a way to fix this? The update seemed to go fine. Drew

Hi guys; So I'm muddling my way through setting up the RL2s and I notice this. When I have a RL2 button trigger a scene that is also triggered by a KPL button (both D buttons if that makes a difference) The KPL LED turns on when the RL2 button is pushed (as I would expect) but when I press the RL2 button to shut off the scene the LED remains lit. Is this what should happen and do I have to write a program that then says if RL2 buttons are pressed off then turn off (*made up scene that only has the KPL LED in it as a responder*)? Also, just to confirm, I can't make a RL2 button control a device directly correct? I have to make a scene with that device in it? Drew

Hi Stu; Its an 8 button RL2 set to the regular mode (on off) for now. Again, when I had it set to non toggle, I couldn't shut anything off. Hi Teken; I think my issue was I'd press scene A on. Then want to press scene B. This would send an OFF signal and leave us literally in the dark. Thus having to press the Scene B button again. I also noticed I can't make the buttons on a RL2 belong to a group like I do with the KPLs. Is there a way to be able to... Send an ON signal by pressing the A button, then... Send an ON signal by pressing the B button? It seems the remote wants to send an ON signal by pressing A and then the next signal it will send will be an OFF signal regardless of what button I press next. Drew (I hope this isn't nonsensical ramblings at this point)

Hi guys; Is there anyway to change this? I tried having them as non toggle on but then I can't shut anything off. (seems to be the opposite issue) non toggle on also ends up lighting up every KPL LED in the house after a few scene changes. Any thoughts? Drew

I always take a quick snapshot of the device on my iPhone and leave it in a folder on the Mac. I also run a topography as well.

Again, I think I'll ask my electrician if he's got a good looking solution as opposed to the junction box approach. There must be an outdoor rated fashionable box other than the galvanized octagons.

Will that look good? Or would it look like a junction box mounted to the side of the house with a light screwed on to it?

I'll talk to my electrician and see if theres a good looking box as opposed to a clunky piece of Sputnik sticking out of the side of my house that lowers the property value of neighbours' houses.

I live in a ranch style so it's above a bedroom. I'll add to the wiring existing in the attic.

So... Sounds like this plan is kaput. Any thoughts on how I can do this? To recap; I want to put an LED light up high on an outside wall of my house. The placement of the light would would be high enough that the wiring through the wall could come directly out of the attic. I don't relish the idea of tearing up drywall to run a SWL to the light, hence the ILL. From this discussion it sounds as if it isn't a solution. Drew Stu and Teken I wrote this reply before you posted your replies. I don't think the ILL would fit in a box with the LED light on it (all outside) and look very good.

In the attic. It'll probably hot in summer. I'm not certain how hot it gets up there.

Not right now. But I'll look to see if I can find it.

If you mean putting the ILL inside a switch box I can do that. I assumed the ILL fits inside one. I wouldn't have the wires tied and just hanging out not shielded in an electrical box.

It won't be motion activated. Its a multi head LED fixture, very simple. I'm not sure what you mean by 'offering a direct link to the LED"?

My issue is as I stated above. The wiring for the device will be in the attic. No extra wiring will be brought down in to the house. I was hoping this device would let me do as I described. Its sounding as if its not a good idea now...

Could I not just throw the breaker if I need to change the bulb? Do these inline products fail a lot?

Good point. I'll go for the dimmable Inline link http://www.smarthome.com/in-linelinc-dimmer-insteon-2475da1-remote-control-in-line-dimmer-dual-band.html I believe this is what I want then?

Hi Larry; Do I need to install a SWL to control the light? Will this device not let me control the light from a KPL elsewhere in the house? Hi Teken; I won't need to dim the light as it'll solely be a spotlight for letting dogs out the basement walkout. What device should I be looking for then? Drew

Hi guys; I want to put an outdoor LED spotlight on the side of my house. The location of the picture would be high enough so that the wiring would come from inside the attic to the outer wall. Clearly I can't go into the attic to turn the light on and off so I'm wondering off this is what I need http://www.smarthome.com/in-linelinc-relay-insteon-2475sdb-remote-control-in-line-on-off-switch-dual-band.html Unless theres a better suited device to buy. Drew

Hi Larry; The three pack dimmers was the reason I started this thread. I don't need dimmers as much as ON/OFF modules but I couldn't find a deal on them.

I figured as much but thought I'd put the question out there. Thanks Paul