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Hi Larry, Thank you for the fast reply. I have a few questions You prefer Alexa over Google Home. Do they basically function the same and this is just preference or are there different benefits to each? If I buy the ISY portal can I use either or even both at the same time? (I know SONOS one has Alexa and is great for music but Google home is cheaper, just deciding what I want to get) Could I switch or add later on or is the ISY Portal specific? (Can you tell I'm crazy excited about voice activated lights?) Drew

Hi guys, I'm late to this thread but wanted to ask a few questions before I purchase the portal module. If I buy Google home and the ISY Portal can I then walk in to the house and voice control all my Insteon stuff? (after programming it to recognize the specific commands of course) Easy as that? I remember wanting to get my stuff voice activated and being turned off by a list of steps that were so convoluted I stopped at step 5 of 100 (An exaggeration but you get the point) If I can get this voice activated my wife would then not mash SWL and KPL buttons wondering why it isn't on as its fading up. (I swear if someone tries to bypass my 2 second ramp rate by double tapping something again I'll program it to flash all the lights on and off for ten minutes and then leave them in the dark until I get home, mmuuuhhahahahaha) (Is that evil?) Drew

Thanks for the replies guys. Just wanted to make sure I'm loading the GUI properly. Drew

Hi Techman, thanks for the fast reply. I've done what you've suggested and it seems to be right. But when I click the shortcut (or the start.jnlp file that downloaded) it opens up the ISY Launcher and just sits there. I seem to have to click the UUID to then get a drop down menu and then click Admin Console. Is this correct or should it be more streamlined like before? (I used to click the jnlp file and the admin console opened) Drew

Hi guys, I'm not sure if this is an issue but I believe in the past I've had problems due to this. (I'm not having any issues right now) I don't see an update button for my ISY. Is there a different place to update the UI? If so, a point in that direction would be greatly appreciated. Drew

Will I have to repeat this process each time I want to program a button on the remote or just to add it to the ISY?

Hi Paul, Yes, I use the 'Link a Remotelinc option. Brian, I'm not sure how much further I need to go. I have instead stuff in the barn thats about 150 feet away from the PLM (The only issue I can think of is the Barn is on a separate service but it still is controllable from the house and the ISY) I find that perplexing but I'm happy it is the way it is) Would that work? Drew

Hi Guys, Just wanted to check in and ask if the 2440 remotelinc are now obsolete as far as the ISY is concerned. A while back I tried to add my 2440 remotelinc to the ISY and it wouldn't recognize it. I'd like to get them working if possible as I have two of them collecting dust (I have four mini remotes as well) Drew

Hi Paul, I tried the reset option first. I pulled the tab out and then held it in for 10 seconds (maybe longer) Theres no beep as its an older SWL When I let go the light kept ramping on and off. I'm assuming the SWL isn't acting correctly. I'm going to replace it today but I just wanted to mention the odd behaviour, Drew

Hi Guys, Before I replace a Switchlinc I wanted to check with you guys on the behaviour of the current SWL The current one will shut off and ramp back up randomly (sometimes when I switch another SWL int he house, other times whenever it wants) Recently I've noticed the LED tree to the left of the paddle isn't lit and I have to air gap it to get it working again. It'll work for a bit but I'll notice the LEDs are out again a few hours later. The model is 2476D V.27 My next question is can i replace it with a new SWL 2477D. That being said every time I've tried to replace a device with another device I screw it up and have to re link everything. I'm hoping to avoid that this time. I searched the forum but haven't found a definitive description on how to do this. If someone can send a link that would be great. Drew

Hi guys, thanks for all the help but I have to admit some of it goes over my head. New Program - [ID 0018][Parent 0001] If Status 'Big Room Fan' is On And Control 'BRRemote-G' is switched On Then Set Scene 'Big Room Fans' Fast Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') This has worked for the mini remote no problem. But this almost works perfectly. It turns the scene on when the light is off. And when the light is on the scene shuts off when the mini remote is pressed. But it fades back up after a delay. Remote Cooking Off If Status 'Kitchen Sink' is not Off And Control 'BRRemote-C Cooking' is switched On Then Set Scene 'Cooking' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I don't understand the difference. One thing of note.I don't get the option to select ON with the Kitchen Sink device where I do get the option with the FAN device. Is it because the fan is a non dimming SWL and the Kitchen Sink is a dimmable SWL? I'd love to get this working like I have it for the FAN scene. I don't understand why the failure with other scenes?

Since this is for the KPL, does anyone know if the remotelinc buttons can be told to have an on level off?

Hi apostolakisi I'm not sure if it matters but I'm not using a KPL here, I'm using a mini remotelinc The reason I have the remote in toggle on only is I'll push the C button and the scene turns on, no problem. I can push other buttons and those scenes turn on. But when I press the C button again to go back to that scene the button is in an ON state so now I shut it off. All the lights fade to black. So the Toggle on only setting for the remote works because anytime anyone presses the button the scene comes on. I can shut the scene off with a KPL that also runs the scene but isn't a part of what we're talking about here. I was able to program the G button on the remotelinc for this. (I'm at work but when I get home I can post that program) When I tried to duplicate it for this issue it didn't work. larryllix; I'll try to do what you've suggested when I get home. I'm not super clear on it but if I read slowly with my finger to help I may get an acceptable result.

Hi larryllix; Thanks for the programming tips. I think I understand most of it but I'm unclear on a few things. First, the Remote Cooking Off - [ID 001A][Parent 0001] program seems pretty straight forward If I understand the above correctly then I input some devices in the scene that would definitively let the ISY know the scene is true. (i.e. Kitchen Uppers 90%, Kitchen Sink 85%, etc) I don't understand this bottom part.

Hi guys, A little background before I get to my problem. I have an 8 button mini remote that is always toggle on (or non toggle on I can't remember the wording) Every press of the buttons sends an ON signal This is so when I switch between the scenes they don't go to black before the next scene is turned on. I'd like to be able to shut the scenes off as well so I thought this program would work. Remote Cooking Off - [ID 001A][Parent 0001] If Control 'BRRemote-C Cooking' is switched On And Control 'BRRemote-C Cooking' is switched On Then Set Scene 'Cooking' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') If the program is on and I turn it on again I thought it should shut off. I've done it with another program on the same remote (a fan that turns on) But I get weird lighting that fades off and turns on again and other oddities. I tried to look for an option that said "if the scene is true and the scene is turned on, then shut the scene off." But I couldn't find that option in the drop down menus I'm not sure what I've done wrong as I thought I did the same for the fan scene. Drew

I believe the cooking program is 'Not Enabled' but I will delete it and see if that helps when I get home tonight. It might be an issue but I disabled it when I started trying to control it with a scene and not a program. Those responder levels are for the Mini Remote and the KPL (I made surreal controllers had the same settings.) Drew

Big Room Program and Screenshots. Big Room Off - [iD 0013][Parent 0001] If Control 'BRRemote-B All Off' is switched On Then Set Scene 'Big Room Off' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Okay, here's the Cooking scene. I'll post the All Off scene next. Only Cooking - [iD 0014][Parent 0001][Not Enabled] If Control 'BRRemote-C Cooking' is switched On Then Set Scene 'Only Cooking' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Hi oberkc Thank you for mentioning to copy the scene attributes to each controller. I've done that in this case but in the past have overlooked it. Here's where I am now. When using the Mini Remote the scenes change as I want them to. And the All Off scene shuts all lights off. But the LEDs on the KPL are all over the map. When I press the all off button all Less still light up (except for the A button) When I press the C or F buttons (these buttons trigger scenes that have the LEDs not in use at a level of zero in the scene) LEDs still light up. Is there a way to "Copy To Clipboard" a scene so I can post it here? Drew

Thanks for the replies guys. I'm hoping I can keep the Mini Remote set as Non Toggle On. I've tried to implement what you've said. I put the LED buttons I want to shut off in the scenes and have them at an On Level of 0 This doesn't seem to work as it should. The scene makes sense. When I press the Mini Remote button C The LED comes on. Fine When I press the F Mini Remote Button C remains on and even though all the LEDs are set to Off in the scene D comes on as well. I'm not sure how what lilyoyo1 didn't work. I have a Scene that has all the LEDs off (B button) shut off. It's triggered by this program Big Room Off - [iD 0013][Parent 0001] If Control 'BRRemote-B All Off' is switched On Then Set Scene 'Big Room Off' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') When I press the B button all the LEDs come on If I press it again they shut off momentarily and then come on again. Drew

Hi Stu, Thank you for the reply. I do have the LEDs in the scenes (as controllers) When I turn on or switch between scenes using the KPL everything is as it should be. If I turn on a scene using the remote the LED lights. If I then turn on another scene that LED lights as well. (both LEDs are on even though the buttons are Mutually Exclusive? Is this because the KPL buttons are mutually exclusive if pressed but the Remote buttons are not?) I think I'd like to try the Non Toggle On setting. I tried to make a program that would say this... If Scene ABC is not true Then turn LED scene off But the best I seem to be able to do is... New Program - [iD 000E][Parent 0001] If Control 'Big Room KPL-C-Cooking' is not switched On Then Set Scene 'Cooking LED' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') This doesn't seem to do what I want. Drew

Hi guys, I have a two part question. 1) I have a KPL and a mini remote that essentially mirror each other (B button on both trigger same scenes etc,) I have the KPL buttons as mutually exclusive so when I press the C button the D LED and scene change, etc. When I press the mini remote buttons the KPL LEDs stay lit even though the scene is no longer true. After a while all the KPL LEDs are lit. (I'm guessing I want to have a program that says "If scene C isn't true then shut off KPL LED C) 2) I would love to have the Mini Remote buttons set for Non Toggle On so they always trigger the scene on when pressed (as opposed to shutting the scene off depending on the state of the button then having to press the same button to turn the desired scene on) But this setting leaves all the KPL LEDs on (back to problem number 1) A this point I'd have to create a scene that would shut all the lights in the room in question off I'm assuming (I.E. When Mini Remote button H is pressed ON then run scene 'shut off all lights' or something like that.) This is a question solely to keep the wife happy. I cannot reiterate the same answers to "Why do all the lights shut off when I push the remote button?" and "All the LEDs are on on the KPL. Why?" (Although the second question has been reworded for the furor, I hear "Why are all the lights on on the light?") Any thoughts would be great. Drew

Hi guys, I have a light that is triggered by a KPL button (not the load) I have a program involved. I press the KPL C button and the light comes on. If the light is on for 4 minutes I have a program to shut the light off. The LED stays on. Am I supposed to make it a scene with the light and the KPL button in it or something like that? Drew

Hi Brian; First off thank you for the fast reply. I followed the link and read through it. I downloaded a file called admin16.jnlp When I click on it I have the same versions now. I've not done anything else so I'm unclear if I'm doing it right. For a while now I've noticed I have to download an odd looking file and click on that to get my ISY GUI up. I used to have an actual app called ISY994i Console. I use a MAC so I'm not sure if this is the new way things are done or if I'm missing something. When I first click on the .jnlp file it says its downloading to my desktop (nothing ends up being there so I assume its a temp file that doesn't stay) I just move the .jnlp file to my Apps folder and use that. I find this odd as it wasn't always like this. Is there something I'm missing? Drew

Hi Guys; I had many communication issues and one of the solutions a member said was to ensure the versions for the UI and the firmware matched. I've updated this morning and see that the Firmware is 4.6.2 and the UI is 4.5.4 Is there a way to fix this? The update seemed to go fine. Drew