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I have three door locks. They all needed to be "interview" manually (went to each device, and selected Zwave/syncronize/ Update with interview) and they all came back working perfectly. Not sure about other types of battery devices though

Home Automation (HA) is a complex subject and an even more complex thing to accomplish. In many people's mind, HA is simply advanced remote control --> "Alex turn on the light". True HA though is where for example, the lights come on as you walk in your bathroom at the right lighting level for the time of day; bright in the morning, and very dim at 3am and much much more. However, achieving this through the years has been complicated. Universal Devices, many years ago, developed one of, if not, the MOST robust hardware and software packages that has ever been available, the ISY. It is dependable, solid, extremely powerful and has very few real life limits. It originally worked primarily with Insteon based products, Zwave products and Zigbee products. Add- on modules allowed for an ELK security system to be natively integrated as well. But again, it was complicated, and there were limits in terms of what products / technologies could be accessed and managed from one controller. Then Alexa (and Google Home) came along. UDI was quick to develop a 2-way integration such that Alexa could now control devices and programs in ISY, and the ISY could control other devices that only integrated with Alexa. The world of HA began to explode to where it is today; infinite devices available using wifi, bluetooth, z-wave and zigbee. Integration of these proliferating devices again became the weakspot of the industry. Users need a new app for each new company's devices: Ecobee, TP-Link/ Kasa, Honeywell, Tesla, Phillips Hues, Roomba, Sonos, Russound, MyQ garage, etc etc etc. But again, this mostly lead to "remote control" vs HA. Some of these apps, now allow for very basic routines or programs to be developed. Nothing though compared to what the ISY is capable of and has been doing for years. UDI to the rescue again!. With their foresight and great skills, they developed, something called the Polisy and Polyglots or node servers. These third party written programs, allow these other companies products to become natively installed into the ISY architecture for control and programming. WOW. The HA world just got that much simpler, but it still isn't for the faint of heart, just yet. But that is where UDI is again is at the forefront. With the impending emergence of a new universal technology platform called Matter, UDI has developed a new piece of hardware called the Eisy, for Easy ISY. Matter has been developed in conjunction with most all major home automation device manufacturers such that the ability to integrate and talk together will be simplified and unified. By developing Eisy, UDI has brought their many many years of rock solid products in a combination offering that allows for the ISY to work with Insteon, Zigbee, Z-wave, the multitude of Node Servers, Alexa, Google Home and now Matter compliant devices! If you are wondering where to go with HA, you should look no farther than the Eisy. Is it brand new? Yes. does it have some growing pains yet to resolve? A few. Are matter devices available yet? No not really. So by the time they are available, UDI, at the forefront, will have another rock solid offering to provide the maximum control of your Smart Home with both computer interfaces as well as a very powerful phone app. UDI's expertise, along with their responsiveness to customer care, combined with this forum, where there are many many experts willing to help and pitch in, provides, in my opinion, the BEST OVERALL HOME AUTOMATION experience possible, for now and the future. As user for 15+ years, I can truly attest @Michel Kohanim and his team are simply the BEST. Good luck! (if you are a new user or potential user, feel free to reach out to me via DM if you would like to discuss further)

MORE LEARNINGS from my 5.5.2 upgrade and zwave migration from zoos to zmatter board. 1) All Zwave scenes and programs for zwave devices stayed intact! VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED!! 2) However, Amazon links that had zwave devices all have to be redone in the Portal, deleted from Alexa app, rediscovered and then any routines in Alexa redone...... (PIA) 3) UD mobile zwave links all break. I "synchronized" the app, but then all my favorites where I had customized displays, colors and words, all disappeared and need to be recreated. .. (PIA) UPDATE: another learning 4) programs with locks all needed fixing as the new Zwave device nodes changed considerably requiring different IF's and THEN choices to affect the original program

Here is an example, of three.

Or you can change the SPAN from default to 2 or 3. See my example below for security. UD mobile is extremely powerful once you figure it out. you can have your own custom names for displays, you can have one device be the display, but a program or other device be the action when pressed. very versatile.

Update...busy went on too long, kept repeating the progress bar. Changed password back to original and hit restart IoX from the AC. No NS connected as expected due to password issue. This time it loaded within10 minutes. Couldn't make sense out of all the "new" nodes so went through adn "grouped" all zwave devices. All NS came back on as well! Then found about ½ of my (limited) zwave devices were in "placeholder" mode as described in their title. So I went to each device, and selected Zwave/syncronize/ Update with interview. They are all now back in place and working! Next on to a few scenes and programs. Thanks for all the "early early adopters!" and their input.

WOW..I have been following most of the posts and followed the directions and NEVER saw that password would get reset. I am in and it's busy, but in a positive way, with all devices listed. Will see where it goes from here. thanks!!

Z-WAVE MIGRATION FAILURE, Polisy zmatter: After reasonable stability on 5.5.2, I did pressed the zwave migration button. Followed directions to move from zoos to zmatter. Each time I try to log into AC, it takes me 3 tries with username/psswrd (no typos!), then everything is BUSY. Nothing shows up in AC. However via the portal, I can open the "web access" and see all my devices, but while they appear to be responsive, nothing happens. I can also see all my zwave devices listed now as ZY devices. I have cleared java, reloaded AC, unplugged as many of the zwave devices I could except for door locks and 2 thermostats. Restarted Polisy many times. Busy status has now been there for 2 hours. ANY SUGGESTIONS TO UNBRICK MY POLISY?

No but I will crack a window so I can hear them better! we should meet at shorts sometime!

Open a ticket before you give up.

Have reinstalled it, stopped and started it several times. Running V1.08 Log shows: 2023-01-03 15:05:05 info: NS: Starting Node Server 2023-01-03 15:05:05 info: POLY: Interface starting 2023-01-03 15:05:05 info: POLY: Getting config from environment 2023-01-03 15:05:06 error: POLY: MQTT Error: Connection refused: Identifier rejected

No I did not, but performance has leveled out.. Still havenot heard about the errors I am getting with one particular set of lights on any scenes they are included with, even though the scenes work as expected. So yesterday I attempted to update to 5.5.2 Hitting the Upgrade packages button on AC did nothing. I followed the second part of these instructions from Michel, plus the following steps as suggested by another user and have had success updating. -Ran the two sudo commands from previous post, got lots of beeps. -Ran them again, and a few more things happened, lots of beeps. Total times about 10 mintues Then opened the AC. AC was "busy" for a full 30 minutes. But everything is up and running with my Zooz 700 Dongle. Everything works! 5.5.2 Thanks!! Update: PG3 did not come back up. All NS were disconnected. Had to manually restart them all. And do a search for the IoX. After the search, it connected and after a few queries in the AC, got all of them running again. I will revisit my ticket with Michel. But since the scenes are working for now, I am not going to bother them as they are working their butts off over the holidays to get 5.5 working. Good luck.

@Geddy @dbuss Thanks for the info. Success! -Ran the two sudo commands from previous post, got lots of beeps. -Ran them again, and a few more things happened, lots of beeps. Total times about 10 mintues Then opened the AC. AC was "busy" for a full 30 minutes. But everything is up and running with my Zooz 700 Dongle. Everything works! 5.5.2 Thanks!! Update: PG3 did not come back up. All NS were disconnected. Had to manually restart them all. And do a search for the IoX. After the search, it connected and after a few queries in the AC, got all of them running again.

Have been following everything pretty closely since it rolled out. This is a different problem than what you referenced. My polisy isn't in a loop, it just does nothing after I click the button in the AC. Just keeps running. But AC shuts down. IoX keeps running too. No problems. But no update procedure initiated. I dont know of any way to "skip" an update (5.5.0) since all I am doing is clicking a button. Not sure if there are choices that would come up.

Is the current "Upgrade Packages" in 5.4.5 temporarily disabled while UDI continues to work things out? Have tried to use it twice now to upgrade and nothing happens after I agree to continue, except my AC shuts. IoX continues to run. I can open the AC back up immediately. Light on Polisy stays steady the whole time. @Javi

Update. IoX just crashed. Cant access it. PG3 is still running however. will be unplugging again. Actually sent sudo service isy start via SSH and it restarted. error log attached. Crashed happened around 105ISY Error Log.v5.4.5__Fri 2022.12.30 01.33.14 PM.txtpm ISY Error Log.v5.4.5__Fri 2022.12.30 01.33.14 PM.txt

In my IoX log, there is this series of events every time I turn on or off several scenes that include all of these Insteon dimmers. The scenes still work. I have a ticket open with Michel, however with all the transition to 5.5 and eisy introduction issues, I am looking to see if anyone else can help, so as to take something off of Michel and the team's plate. Here is what shows up in the event viewer: Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 2A 1A 69 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 45 92 AB 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3D F4 6 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 1A 24 15 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 1C 7E A5 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3B 2B 63 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3C D7 ED 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3C FA D1 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3E E 7D 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3E 1 E7 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3D F0 B3 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 45 8D D3 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 45 91 38 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3D F2 C0 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3D F5 C2 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3C F4 64 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 59 1 76 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 4E D6 98 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 40 5C 1E 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3E 1 35 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3D E 13 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 4E CC 5A 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 24 E5 F6 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3C 44 1A 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3C E3 D5 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3C D7 39 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3C E5 5D 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3B C5 E 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3B CC A7 1 not found Here is a brief history of recent events: -Installed the ZMatter board as instructed. Am running 5.4.5 with Zooz 700 dongle. Have NOT update to 5.5 yet. -Everything was good for 2 -3 days -Then nothing worked, AC would not connect to any device, PLM said "not connected" -I assumed PLM went bad and installed a new one through Restore PLM methodology -Had trouble connecting all day. Would get stuck on subscription services, or not connect at all. Sometimes UD mobile would connect other times it would not. Same with portal web access. Same error on all platforms. Unplugged Polisy ~5x over the next 24-48 hours to get everything working. -However through SSH, I could see that IoX was running and node servers were up etc, just couldn't connect. -All was good for about 4 days, then one day all my Zwave devices stopped working. AC said zwave dongle not working. -Unplugged polisy again and upon reboot all was fine. -Then I found those lines in the IoX log. I dont know how long they were there. Nor do I know if the original PLM actually was bad or not. Any thoughts anyone? Thanks!

@techman has reported an update is available.

update from @Techman

@ILey A few things; -A battery operated device will "go to sleep" when its not in use to preserve the battery, So anytime you try to "access it" from the Admin Console, you will get that error unless you have "woken up" the device first as the admin console cant talk to it because it is asleep and has no way to wake it up. To wake up the device, press and hold the button until the first set of blinking lights occur. Then you can "talk" to it via the Admin console. - Likewise I think the leak detectors have a cycle to run and it may take some time for it reset itself. You can always pull the battery and see if that gets it back to starting mode, or (and I am not sure about this as I cant remember offhand), but many of the battery devices have three total clicks before its back to normal. The first one, held for 3 seconds, puts it into communications mode, a second click, quick puts it into a linking mode for other Insteon devices and the third quick press should bring it back to its normal state. Lastly, a quick press from the normal state can also serve as a on/off type of switch. So you can try to press it quickly and see if it cycles the wet / dry, but am not sure if that will work or not. ( I have some and can try it later and let you know) -The Resource line in the program refers to a "resource" which is programmed into ISY by the user under the Configurations tab / Networking / Network Resources. These are typically direct commands that the ISY can give to other devices. Here is an example of one. At this point in your programming, I wouldn't worry about them! Cheers.

@GHook your comment about having enough hardware and not wanting more, is understandable. However, just to be clear, the Polisy or the Easy would REPLACE the 994i, so you aren't actually adding hardware, but replacing. From there you would now have access to all the node servers on PG3, which is quite an extensive list (most are listed here https://forum.universal-devices.com/forum/221-polyglot-v3-node-servers-pg3/). I have 12 node servers running including the KASA for TP link plugs and they all work great. Greatly expanded the usefulness of the ISY, now called IoX (Isy on eisy). Good luck.

feel free to post your programs as your write them if you need further help. The best way to do that is to right click on the program and select copy to clipboard, then you can paste it directly into this forum and others will be able to see directly what you have written. Good luck. The power of the ISY is in its amazing flexibility of programming!!

just to be sure, you are on PG3? you may have to uninstall it and start over. If I remember it worked for me exactly as the readme stated. A message should show up with a PIN, pretty sure under the config tab. then you have to go to the ecobee website adn create the link to the application as stated, using the PIN.

Does it matter? I have zwave thermostats, that the IoX controls via the settings within Iox. So I dont do anything at the thermostat level: time setting, programs etc. I rely on the IoX to do it all, so if your Boston time zone is correct on the IoX, it doesn't matter to have a time on the thermostat unless you are programming it locally on the thermostat as well, which then negates the need to have it part of your IoX and you can probably set the time locally on the thermostat directly. Just wondering. you may be getting caught up in a red herring?

maybe try stopping it, waiting and then restarting it to see if it shows up?