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MORE LEARNINGS from my 5.5.2 upgrade and zwave migration from zoos to zmatter board. 1) All Zwave scenes and programs for zwave devices stayed intact! VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED!! 2) However, Amazon links that had zwave devices all have to be redone in the Portal, deleted from Alexa app, rediscovered and then any routines in Alexa redone...... (PIA) 3) UD mobile zwave links all break. I "synchronized" the app, but then all my favorites where I had customized displays, colors and words, all disappeared and need to be recreated. .. (PIA) UPDATE: another learning 4) programs with locks all needed fixing as the new Zwave device nodes changed considerably requiring different IF's and THEN choices to affect the original program

Here is an example, of three.

Or you can change the SPAN from default to 2 or 3. See my example below for security. UD mobile is extremely powerful once you figure it out. you can have your own custom names for displays, you can have one device be the display, but a program or other device be the action when pressed. very versatile.

Update...busy went on too long, kept repeating the progress bar. Changed password back to original and hit restart IoX from the AC. No NS connected as expected due to password issue. This time it loaded within10 minutes. Couldn't make sense out of all the "new" nodes so went through adn "grouped" all zwave devices. All NS came back on as well! Then found about ½ of my (limited) zwave devices were in "placeholder" mode as described in their title. So I went to each device, and selected Zwave/syncronize/ Update with interview. They are all now back in place and working! Next on to a few scenes and programs. Thanks for all the "early early adopters!" and their input.

WOW..I have been following most of the posts and followed the directions and NEVER saw that password would get reset. I am in and it's busy, but in a positive way, with all devices listed. Will see where it goes from here. thanks!!

Z-WAVE MIGRATION FAILURE, Polisy zmatter: After reasonable stability on 5.5.2, I did pressed the zwave migration button. Followed directions to move from zoos to zmatter. Each time I try to log into AC, it takes me 3 tries with username/psswrd (no typos!), then everything is BUSY. Nothing shows up in AC. However via the portal, I can open the "web access" and see all my devices, but while they appear to be responsive, nothing happens. I can also see all my zwave devices listed now as ZY devices. I have cleared java, reloaded AC, unplugged as many of the zwave devices I could except for door locks and 2 thermostats. Restarted Polisy many times. Busy status has now been there for 2 hours. ANY SUGGESTIONS TO UNBRICK MY POLISY?

No but I will crack a window so I can hear them better! we should meet at shorts sometime!

Open a ticket before you give up.

Have reinstalled it, stopped and started it several times. Running V1.08 Log shows: 2023-01-03 15:05:05 info: NS: Starting Node Server 2023-01-03 15:05:05 info: POLY: Interface starting 2023-01-03 15:05:05 info: POLY: Getting config from environment 2023-01-03 15:05:06 error: POLY: MQTT Error: Connection refused: Identifier rejected

No I did not, but performance has leveled out.. Still havenot heard about the errors I am getting with one particular set of lights on any scenes they are included with, even though the scenes work as expected. So yesterday I attempted to update to 5.5.2 Hitting the Upgrade packages button on AC did nothing. I followed the second part of these instructions from Michel, plus the following steps as suggested by another user and have had success updating. -Ran the two sudo commands from previous post, got lots of beeps. -Ran them again, and a few more things happened, lots of beeps. Total times about 10 mintues Then opened the AC. AC was "busy" for a full 30 minutes. But everything is up and running with my Zooz 700 Dongle. Everything works! 5.5.2 Thanks!! Update: PG3 did not come back up. All NS were disconnected. Had to manually restart them all. And do a search for the IoX. After the search, it connected and after a few queries in the AC, got all of them running again. I will revisit my ticket with Michel. But since the scenes are working for now, I am not going to bother them as they are working their butts off over the holidays to get 5.5 working. Good luck.

@Geddy @dbuss Thanks for the info. Success! -Ran the two sudo commands from previous post, got lots of beeps. -Ran them again, and a few more things happened, lots of beeps. Total times about 10 mintues Then opened the AC. AC was "busy" for a full 30 minutes. But everything is up and running with my Zooz 700 Dongle. Everything works! 5.5.2 Thanks!! Update: PG3 did not come back up. All NS were disconnected. Had to manually restart them all. And do a search for the IoX. After the search, it connected and after a few queries in the AC, got all of them running again.

Have been following everything pretty closely since it rolled out. This is a different problem than what you referenced. My polisy isn't in a loop, it just does nothing after I click the button in the AC. Just keeps running. But AC shuts down. IoX keeps running too. No problems. But no update procedure initiated. I dont know of any way to "skip" an update (5.5.0) since all I am doing is clicking a button. Not sure if there are choices that would come up.

Is the current "Upgrade Packages" in 5.4.5 temporarily disabled while UDI continues to work things out? Have tried to use it twice now to upgrade and nothing happens after I agree to continue, except my AC shuts. IoX continues to run. I can open the AC back up immediately. Light on Polisy stays steady the whole time. @Javi

Update. IoX just crashed. Cant access it. PG3 is still running however. will be unplugging again. Actually sent sudo service isy start via SSH and it restarted. error log attached. Crashed happened around 105ISY Error Log.v5.4.5__Fri 2022.12.30 01.33.14 PM.txtpm ISY Error Log.v5.4.5__Fri 2022.12.30 01.33.14 PM.txt

In my IoX log, there is this series of events every time I turn on or off several scenes that include all of these Insteon dimmers. The scenes still work. I have a ticket open with Michel, however with all the transition to 5.5 and eisy introduction issues, I am looking to see if anyone else can help, so as to take something off of Michel and the team's plate. Here is what shows up in the event viewer: Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 2A 1A 69 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 45 92 AB 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3D F4 6 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 1A 24 15 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 1C 7E A5 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3B 2B 63 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3C D7 ED 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3C FA D1 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3E E 7D 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3E 1 E7 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3D F0 B3 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 45 8D D3 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 45 91 38 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3D F2 C0 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3D F5 C2 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3C F4 64 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 59 1 76 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 4E D6 98 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 40 5C 1E 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3E 1 35 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3D E 13 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 4E CC 5A 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 24 E5 F6 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3C 44 1A 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3C E3 D5 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3C D7 39 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3C E5 5D 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3B C5 E 1 not found Sat 12/24/2022 06:46:08 PM : [LINK-INFO ] Link for responder 3B CC A7 1 not found Here is a brief history of recent events: -Installed the ZMatter board as instructed. Am running 5.4.5 with Zooz 700 dongle. Have NOT update to 5.5 yet. -Everything was good for 2 -3 days -Then nothing worked, AC would not connect to any device, PLM said "not connected" -I assumed PLM went bad and installed a new one through Restore PLM methodology -Had trouble connecting all day. Would get stuck on subscription services, or not connect at all. Sometimes UD mobile would connect other times it would not. Same with portal web access. Same error on all platforms. Unplugged Polisy ~5x over the next 24-48 hours to get everything working. -However through SSH, I could see that IoX was running and node servers were up etc, just couldn't connect. -All was good for about 4 days, then one day all my Zwave devices stopped working. AC said zwave dongle not working. -Unplugged polisy again and upon reboot all was fine. -Then I found those lines in the IoX log. I dont know how long they were there. Nor do I know if the original PLM actually was bad or not. Any thoughts anyone? Thanks!

@techman has reported an update is available.

update from @Techman

@ILey A few things; -A battery operated device will "go to sleep" when its not in use to preserve the battery, So anytime you try to "access it" from the Admin Console, you will get that error unless you have "woken up" the device first as the admin console cant talk to it because it is asleep and has no way to wake it up. To wake up the device, press and hold the button until the first set of blinking lights occur. Then you can "talk" to it via the Admin console. - Likewise I think the leak detectors have a cycle to run and it may take some time for it reset itself. You can always pull the battery and see if that gets it back to starting mode, or (and I am not sure about this as I cant remember offhand), but many of the battery devices have three total clicks before its back to normal. The first one, held for 3 seconds, puts it into communications mode, a second click, quick puts it into a linking mode for other Insteon devices and the third quick press should bring it back to its normal state. Lastly, a quick press from the normal state can also serve as a on/off type of switch. So you can try to press it quickly and see if it cycles the wet / dry, but am not sure if that will work or not. ( I have some and can try it later and let you know) -The Resource line in the program refers to a "resource" which is programmed into ISY by the user under the Configurations tab / Networking / Network Resources. These are typically direct commands that the ISY can give to other devices. Here is an example of one. At this point in your programming, I wouldn't worry about them! Cheers.

@GHook your comment about having enough hardware and not wanting more, is understandable. However, just to be clear, the Polisy or the Easy would REPLACE the 994i, so you aren't actually adding hardware, but replacing. From there you would now have access to all the node servers on PG3, which is quite an extensive list (most are listed here https://forum.universal-devices.com/forum/221-polyglot-v3-node-servers-pg3/). I have 12 node servers running including the KASA for TP link plugs and they all work great. Greatly expanded the usefulness of the ISY, now called IoX (Isy on eisy). Good luck.

feel free to post your programs as your write them if you need further help. The best way to do that is to right click on the program and select copy to clipboard, then you can paste it directly into this forum and others will be able to see directly what you have written. Good luck. The power of the ISY is in its amazing flexibility of programming!!

just to be sure, you are on PG3? you may have to uninstall it and start over. If I remember it worked for me exactly as the readme stated. A message should show up with a PIN, pretty sure under the config tab. then you have to go to the ecobee website adn create the link to the application as stated, using the PIN.

Does it matter? I have zwave thermostats, that the IoX controls via the settings within Iox. So I dont do anything at the thermostat level: time setting, programs etc. I rely on the IoX to do it all, so if your Boston time zone is correct on the IoX, it doesn't matter to have a time on the thermostat unless you are programming it locally on the thermostat as well, which then negates the need to have it part of your IoX and you can probably set the time locally on the thermostat directly. Just wondering. you may be getting caught up in a red herring?

maybe try stopping it, waiting and then restarting it to see if it shows up?

From the README it says Initial setup On first start up you will be given a PIN. Login to the Ecobee web page, click on your profile, then click 'My Apps' > 'Add Application'. You will be prompted to enter the PIN provided. The Node Server will check every 60 seconds that you have completed the approval so do not restart the Node Server. You can monitor the log to see when the approval is recognized. Your thermostat will be added to ISY, along with nodes for any sensors, a node for the current weather, and a node for the forecast. After the first run. It will refresh any changes every 3 minutes. This is a limitation imposed by Ecobee. If I remember correctly, it will show up in the NS config tab.

@ILey Yes, you are correct it wont show CONTROL in the IF portion but notice it says " switched on". That is meant to imply an action. Compared to if you changed the IF to Status is on, it will status. Here is an example of the two different If conditions. First line is the Control, the second is the status. Yes its a bit confusing, but you will get it with use. If 'Alarm 5' is switched Off Or 'Alarm 5' Status is Off Secondly on your question regarding parenthesis, yes you highlight it, after adding and then "move line up" or down and move them where they will make sense. Here are a few screenshots of an example Step one: I have all three lines in the program, but I want the first two nested together with an AND () for the second, so I add an AND () and it shows up at the bottom. If 'Alarm 5' is switched Off Or 'Alarm 5' Status is Off And 'Bar upper cabinet' Status is Off And ( ) Now I click on the top ( and select move line up. It now looks like this: If ( 'Alarm 5' is switched Off Or 'Alarm 5' Status is Off And 'Bar upper cabinet' Status is Off ) Now I need to move the bottom ) up as well. I click on it and select move line up. it now looks like this. If ( 'Alarm 5' is switched Off Or 'Alarm 5' Status is Off ) And 'Bar upper cabinet' Status is Off This has accomplished grouping the status is off or switched (control) off as a group combined with the and on the bottom line. For clarity I often add a second () as follows: If ( 'Alarm 5' is switched Off Or 'Alarm 5' Status is Off ) And ( 'Bar upper cabinet' Status is Off ) This isn't really needed at all, especially for this program, but I have some more complex if where it makes reading it much easier; see example below. If 'Main House' Armed Status is not Disarmed And $Dougs_iPhone_13_home2 is 1 And ( 'Main House / Garge Ovhd Mid' Logical Status is Violated Or 'Main House / Garge Ovhd South' Logical Status is Violated Or ( 'Lock - Rear Garage' is switched Alarm Unlocked by Keypad And 'Lock - Rear Garage' User Number is 1 ) Or ( 'Lock - Front Door' is switched Alarm Unlocked by Keypad And 'Lock - Front Door' User Number is 1 ) Or ( 'Lock - Mud Room' is switched Alarm Unlocked by Keypad And 'Lock - Mud Room' User Number is 1 ) )