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The basic answer is yes, switches will continue to operate as they are currently configured without the ISY994, however if the new owner were to replace a switch for any reason, and that switch is the load controller for a 3-way system, the entire scene would now fail. Or if they replaced even a non-load control switch in a 3-Way the wiring wouldn't support it and all switches would again need to be replaced at the same time. Any replacement of a switch that is part of a 3-way system would necessitate the replacement of all switches in that system and changes to the wiring. And if you have a scene controlled by an 8-button or 6-button keypad and they replace that to add a switch to control the load it is attached to, then all kinds of mischief will ensue. Every scene on all 8 buttons would be affected. It just snow balls over time and the new owner will get upset. I've had client homes sell and sold homes myself with automation intact. I will never do that again. The headaches that followed were very time consuming. It would have been easier to just replace all the hardware myself and walk away.

@bpwwer A small item with 3.1.27. When viewing purchases it shows all purchased NS's X2, however refreshing that page view corrects the list.

@dbwarner5 Upgrading to PG3x Enable PG3x: https://polisy.local:8443/rest/pg3x.enable Reboot and wait for a beep + 1. Migrating node servers from PG3 to PG3x might take up to 2 minutes per node server. So, please be patient Once all node servers show connected, reboot again.

Insteon Only Home no Z-Wave Updated PoliSy from 3.1.26 to 3.1.27 AC => Upgrade Packages (~two minutes and then 5 beeps) AC => Reboot (~1minute and then two beeps) Refreshed PG3x and it showed version 3.1.27 and all NS's up and running. But Alexa wasn't responding saying devices can not be found and I had no control of devices via AC. Two presses of the front panel button (Safe reboot) and PG3x web page and AC reported updating system. Not expected but OK. After 20 minutes of waiting for it to finish I tried to SSH into the box to see what was up; I couldn't connect. The front panel lights were all blinking and it seemed to be doing something, but I couldn't access it at all. I keep the system regularly updated so there was no reason for an extended update time. I then tried AC, SSH, and the web interface all no go. So I did what any reasonable ex-IT weenie would do. I pulled the power plug out and went and made some toast, eat my toast and then plugged it back in and waited for a couple of minutes. IoX started up no issues. Alexa could again see my devices, PG3x started up and showed version 3.1.27, but the following NS's did not show their connect status in AC until I restarted each NS individually. OpenWeatherMap Virtual Buttons This is a major improvement from past experiences when almost none of my 10 installed NS's would start completely without first restarting each NS manually. Even the LifX NS came right up and saw all of the LifX devices installed. This hasn't happened since I migrated from a RPi running PG2. Well miracles never cease! Well Done @bpwwer 👋 Just a final note on the Virtual Buttons NS. Even after a restart it would not give UDM status updates, however AC did show connected. Individual NS status notifications are working for all but the Virtual Buttons NS, and flooded my phone with messages during the reboots! Again a really nice additional feature! Thank you UD and team! NS's that just worked without issue: TimeData HarmonyHub LifX Virtual Devices Volumio Plex-WebHook ST-Inventory Kasa

@larryllix A personal thank you for all you do!

@Javi Thank you for the details! I understand how it is all is supposed to work. Unfortunately the lines of code that actually change the individual bulb settings (see below) when added to a scene do not retain their values and instead inherit the last used values. So, I have had to hard code them to each button. I do use a scene to active the currently selected settings, but that's as close to a scene as I can get for this purpose. Set 'Dining Room / Dining Room Lights / LIFX Dinning Room Light 1' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms Set 'Dining Room / Dining Room Lights / LIFX Dinning Room Light 2' Hue 45800 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 9000° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-1 Mini 519C71' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-2 Mini 3F2BB9' Hue 45800 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 9000° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-3 Mini 383074' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-4 Mini 3D8961' Hue 45800 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 9000° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-5 Mini 3D90ED' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms So I'm limited by design. When I get a chance I'll play with intermediate programs to set variables and maybe find a solution that way. The example program I used is one of eight pre-programmed party lights scenes that get used quite often. It would of been nice to add them all to UD Mobile, but sixteen icons ON/OFF X8 for a single purpose is too many, so I was hoping I had missed some function in UD that would allow me to duplicate the 8-button keypads function more closely. Cest a la vie. My last working 8-button remote will have to continue to serve as the portable mood setting device. But I really do appreciate everyone's interest and help! I am never disappointed by the truly amazing people here in UD land. People like @Geddy, @MrBill, @DennisC, and so many other regulars on the forums and of course the UD team starting with @Michel Kohanim, @Javi, @bmercier, and @bpwwer

@larryllix I went ahead and tried a few variations on what you had discussed. The best case was with the code you listed. Unfortunately it results in the scene triggering with a button press, Ya! and then immediately shuts off without any intervention. I also tried And 'Living Room / LivingRm KPD8.c DinRm Scene 1' Status is not Off But then the lights wouldn't turn on or off. The right way to do this is using CONTROL, I'm trying to fix a limitation of UD mobile by working around it with STATUS in AC. This isn't the right solution. I'm going to create some intermediate programs as suggested by @DennisC and see if I can't do it that way. Maybe just setup a STATE variable and toggle that.

@DennisC I thought about it, but it's not intuitive and would break the wife model of happiness. It's the last resort, but workable.

@Javi No rush on the response, I'll play with it a bit more but here's the initial results of changing from CONTROL to STATUS monitoring. With this programming pressing the 8-button key ON does not trigger the THEN portion of the program. The OFF check in line two prevents it from triggering. So I can turn the lights off, but not on with this. Living Room KPS8 Lights Scene 1 - [ID 002C][Parent 0034] If 'Living Room / LivingRm KPD8.c DinRm Scene 1' Status is On And 'Living Room / LivingRm KPD8.c DinRm Scene 1' Status is not Off Then Set 'Dining Room / Dining Room Lights / LIFX Dinning Room Light 1' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms Set 'Dining Room / Dining Room Lights / LIFX Dinning Room Light 2' Hue 45800 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 9000° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-1 Mini 519C71' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-2 Mini 3F2BB9' Hue 45800 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 9000° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-3 Mini 383074' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-4 Mini 3D8961' Hue 45800 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 9000° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-5 Mini 3D90ED' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms Set 'Dining Room / Dining Room Lights / Dining Room Lights' On Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LivingRm Chandelier' On Else Set 'Dining Room / Dining Room Lights / Dining Room Lights' Off Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LivingRm Chandelier' Off Changing the program to this. Allows a button push to activate the THEN portion, but breaks the ELSE. Meaning I can turn the lights on, but not off. Living Room KPS8 Lights Scene 1 - [ID 002C][Parent 0034] If 'Living Room / LivingRm KPD8.c DinRm Scene 1' Status is On Then Set 'Dining Room / Dining Room Lights / LIFX Dinning Room Light 1' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms Set 'Dining Room / Dining Room Lights / LIFX Dinning Room Light 2' Hue 45800 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 9000° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-1 Mini 519C71' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-2 Mini 3F2BB9' Hue 45800 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 9000° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-3 Mini 383074' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-4 Mini 3D8961' Hue 45800 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 9000° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-5 Mini 3D90ED' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms Set 'Dining Room / Dining Room Lights / Dining Room Lights' On Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LivingRm Chandelier' On Else Set 'Dining Room / Dining Room Lights / Dining Room Lights' Off Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LivingRm Chandelier' Off So I need to leave the statements as CONTROL for it to work in the home. Is there a way to create a toggle in UD Mobile with it set as CONTROL? If not can I create a toggle that calls one program with the first tap of a UD Mobile favorites and then a second program with the second tap? If so I can split this into two programs one for ON and another for OFF both using STATUS. Thank you!

I have this program that I want to create a UD Mobile favorite for. I want the first tap to activate the THEN portion of the program and the second tap to activate the ELSE. I tried a few times to find a way to accomplish this and I haven't found the secrete sauce. Anyone here done anything similar? Living Room KPS8 Lights Scene 1 - [ID 002C][Parent 0034] If 'Living Room / LivingRm KPD8.c DinRm Scene 1' is switched On And 'Living Room / LivingRm KPD8.c DinRm Scene 1' is not switched Off Then Set 'Dining Room / Dining Room Lights / LIFX Dinning Room Light 1' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms Set 'Dining Room / Dining Room Lights / LIFX Dinning Room Light 2' Hue 45800 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 9000° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-1 Mini 519C71' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-2 Mini 3F2BB9' Hue 45800 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 9000° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-3 Mini 383074' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-4 Mini 3D8961' Hue 45800 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 9000° K in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LIFX Chand-5 Mini 3D90ED' Hue 15400 Saturation 65535 Brightness 65535 Color Temp 3500° K in 0 ms Set 'Dining Room / Dining Room Lights / Dining Room Lights' On Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LivingRm Chandelier' On Else Set 'Dining Room / Dining Room Lights / Dining Room Lights' Off Set 'Living Room / Living Room Chandelier / LivingRm Chandelier' Off Thank you!

@brians, I recently tried the Tuya NS and I don't believe it's quite ready for production. It currently supports only the following Daikin WiFi modules: BRP069Axx/BRP069Bxx/BRP072Axx And it also seems to be hard coded to the authors backyard light. Anyway upon install the backyard light comes up as the driver node. I didn't do much more with it. It may just be a naming thing as this is a non-production NS.

HA released a new update right after I posted. So the current version is now 2023.5.3.

Open HA and go to <Settings><About> You will see all the different components of HA and their versions. 5.2.23 is the latest as of today.

Jimbo, How about this? Mini Split RPi Controller

Jimbo, I'm not sure which model you are installing, but these appear to still be available and will handle up to 30amps. Insteon Heavy Duty Load Controller

As I recall UD had to reverse engineer the Motion II as Insteon would not provide any documentation. This limited support to the feature they could figure out. I suspect this was the product that broke the camels back when it came to Insteon support. Recently with new management at Insteon and limited i3 support starting to appear with UD products I suspect UD is adding support at their own pace when documentation is supplied while staying focused on Polyglot, Polisy, and eisy. I would not expect any future added feature support for the older Insteon products which includes the Motion II

@phawtrey You can only have one device / application using the Elk M1XEP interface at a time. If you still have the Elk connected to RP2 the problem might just be too many things trying to access the Elk at the same time.

@JMC The three most likely causes are: 1.) You have the wrong version of Java installed. You can install Java using this link. Java 8.371 2.) You have not cleared the Java cache. To do that open the Configure Java applet and then click <Settings> <Delete Files> and then make sure all three check boxes are checked and click <OK> 3.) You are using the wrong start.jnpl file. Please use the one linked below. start.jnlp

Upgraded to IoX 5.6.0 and PG3 3.1.20 on a PoliSy Pro. Issues were the regular culprits. The LifX NS was unable to locate any LifX devices without multiple PoliSy / Router reboots. Time running may also play into this, but I have been unable to find the specific cause. This is normal bad behavior from the LifX NS and not related to the IoX or PG3 upgrade, but very frustrating especially since there is no longer support for this NS. The TimeData, OpenWeatherMap, Virtual, VirtualButtons, and ST-Inventory NS's all required restarts even after the PoliSy reboot before they fully populated all nodes in AC. Again this is normal from these NS's. HarmonyHub and Volumio NS's started without issue. Again this is normal. I have never had an issue with either of these NS's. They just work.

@johnmsch If the Start.jnlp file didn't start when you double clicked it, then Java is either not installed or the wrong version has installed. Verify that you have Java Version 8.x installed. If not uninstall what you have now and install Java 8.x for Windows. I suspect that will fix your issue. Here's the link to the Java download. Java Download

@nowandthen While I don't know for sure, I strongly suspect UD is working towards single sign on for all services.

The goal of this is to show how to create a lighting scene that changes brightness throughout the day using an Insteon 6-Button controller (2334-2) and a FanLinc responder (2475F). Also, I will cover how to create an override function to bring the lights to 100% brightness with the 6-Button controller and also how to properly integrate this with Alexa while maintaining full voice control of ON / OFF and brightness level. i.e. Alexa lights 50%. Insteon Configuration: We will be using adjust scene to accomplish to majority of this task. It's important to recognize that adjust scene will not transfer properties to any scene / controller not explicitly programmed. In this example the following scene and device names will be used. Scene Name: Guest Ceiling Lights Devices in scene: Guest FanLinc Fan-Light(2475F Responder & GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light (2334-2 Controller We now need to create four programs and one integer variable. The integer variable will be used to keep the value of the last used brightness state in case the manual override is used and we wish to return to the previous brightness level. Integer Variable Name: i.Guest.Ceiling.Light.Current (Init = 0) Let's look at the four programs we will need for this example. You could easily add additional programs for addition times of day. Programs and Functions Guest Light Ctrl Day – Controls the light brightness for day time Guest Light Ctrl Day - [ID 0044][Parent 0006] If Time is Sunrise + 20 minutes and 15 seconds Then $i.Guest.Ceiling.Light.Current = 100 In 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' Set 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Fan / Guest FanLinc Fan-Light' To 100% in 0.1 seconds, No retries In 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' Set 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' To 100% in 0.1 seconds In 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Lights / Guest Ceiling Lights' Set 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' To 100% in 0.1 seconds In 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Lights / Guest Ceiling Lights' Set 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Fan / Guest FanLinc Fan-Light' To 100% in 0.1 seconds Set 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Fan / Guest FanLinc Fan-Light' On Level 100% Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Guest Light Ctrl Evening – Controls the light brightness for evening Guest Light Ctrl Evening - [ID 0045][Parent 0006] If Time is Sunset - 30 minutes and 15 seconds Then $i.Guest.Ceiling.Light.Current = 40 In 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' Set 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Fan / Guest FanLinc Fan-Light' To 40% in 0.1 seconds, No retries In 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' Set 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' To 40% in 0.1 seconds In 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Lights / Guest Ceiling Lights' Set 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' To 40% in 0.1 seconds In 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Lights / Guest Ceiling Lights' Set 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Fan / Guest FanLinc Fan-Light' To 40% in 0.1 seconds Set 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Fan / Guest FanLinc Fan-Light' On Level 40% Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Guest Light Manual Override 100% - Controls the brightness level for manual override of current setting (Default to 100%) Guest Light Manual Override 100% - [ID 003D][Parent 0006] If 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' is switched Fast On And 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' is not switched Off And 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' is not switched Fast Off Then In 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' Set 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Fan / Guest FanLinc Fan-Light' To 100% in 0.1 seconds, No retries In 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' Set 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' To 100% in 0.1 seconds In 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Lights / Guest Ceiling Lights' Set 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' To 100% in 0.1 seconds In 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Lights / Guest Ceiling Lights' Set 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Fan / Guest FanLinc Fan-Light' To 100% in 0.1 seconds Set 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Fan / Guest FanLinc Fan-Light' On Level 100% Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Guest Light 6-Button On-OFF (Return to previous Level) – Controls On-Off of the light to the desired lighting brightness as defined by the Ctrl Day, Ctrl Evening and Manual Override. Guest Light 6-Button On-OFF (Return to Previous Level) - [ID 003E][Parent 0006] If 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' is switched On And 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' is not switched Off And 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' is not switched Fast Off Then In 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' Set 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Fan / Guest FanLinc Fan-Light' To '$i.Guest.Ceiling.Light.Current %' in 0.1 seconds, No retries In 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' Set 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' To 100% in 0.1 seconds In 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Lights / Guest Ceiling Lights' Set 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' To '$i.Guest.Ceiling.Light.Current %' in 0.1 seconds In 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Lights / Guest Ceiling Lights' Set 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Fan / Guest FanLinc Fan-Light' To '$i.Guest.Ceiling.Light.Current %' in 0.1 seconds Set 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Fan / Guest FanLinc Fan-Light' On Level '$i.Guest.Ceiling.Light.Current %' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') In each of these programs adjust scene is used to control all aspects of the Guest Ceiling Lights scene. If you look carefully at the THEN section of each program you will see that all possible combinations of scene, controller, and set has to be explicitly handled in your program. No properties will be inherited in adjust scene. So if in adjust scene you set the scene and controller both as the scene and assume because you selected the scene in both cases that all devices in the scene will inherit the properties; you are mistaken. The desired changes will not be inherited by the other devices in the scene and must be explicitly programmed individually. You need to explicitly create an adjust scene for each and every possible combination of scene / controller / set. Adjust Scene Programing: Lets look at the Guest Light Ctrl Day program in more detail and go over the adjust scene line by line. The first THEN line sets our integer variable value so that we can return to the previous brightness level with a single button push if the manual override is used. In the second line of the THEN we find the first adjust scene statement. Notice it is for the following combination of scene / controller / set. Guest Ceiling Lights (The scene) / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light (Controller) / Guest FanLinc Fan-Light (The device being set) Remember I said every possible combination of scene / controller / set needs to be explicitly programmed? Here are program lines 3-5 of the above example in more detail. Take careful notice of how the set configuration parameter THEN line three in adjust scene has changed to the GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light, from the above program THEN line three which set it to Guest FanLinc Fan-Light. I'll cover program THEN Line Six towards the end. THEN Line Three: THEN Line Four: In the previous adjust scene program commands (lines 2-3) we were changing the controller KPD6 6-Button KeyPad. Now we need to change the Guest Ceiling Lights scene itself and both devices in that scene. Pay attention to how the controller changes from GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light to the scene Guest Ceiling Lights in the second line of the adjust scene dialog box labeled Controller. THEN Line five: The one remaining change (Program THEN line six) that needs to happen is for the FanLinc ON LEVEL to be set, since the FanLinc is a responder in the scene there is no way using adjust scene to change it's ON LEVEL value without explicitly programming that value outside of adjust scene. That takes care of the adjust scene for a two device scene. If you have more devices in the scene you will need to add additional adjust scene program lines to accommodate the additional devices. If you were paying attention to the above programs you noticed that the Guest Light Manual Override 100% program uses FAST ON (double tap) as it's trigger. You could change this to what ever you prefer. The programming I have shown allows for a double tap to change the lights to 100% brightness and then a single press sets them back to their previous brightness level. The OFF button turns the lights off. Alexa Integration: By using adjust scene we have also enabled Alexa voice control to turn on the lights to their pre-programmed day / evening brightness levels by simply saying, "Alexa Guest Lights ON". So during the day they are at 100% but in the evening they change to 40%. But what if the lights are at 40% brightness and you want them at 100% without going to the 6-Button controller or maybe 20%. The secret here is to setup the Alexa integration to the FanLinc (2475F) device as a LIGHT and not to the Guest Light scene. Now you can tell Alexa to turn the light ON /OFF and any number to set the brightness level. i.e. "Alexa lights 25" This would turn on the Guest lights on at 25% brightness or change the brightness to 25% from what every level they are at. I hope someone finds this helpful.

As a follow up I know I've run into this before and even opened a ticket about having adjust scene inherit properties, but it was a very low priority at the time. So as MrBill was so kind as to remind me you do have to set every possible combination of scene/controller/set. Below are two programs changing all possible permutations for only two devices in a scene. If you had more devices you would have to add additional adjust scene commands. This is required to cover all the bases and possible combinations of scene/controller/set. I also had to set the FanLinc's on level separately in the end as there is no way in adjust scene to select it as a controller since it is only a responder. Adjust Scene dialog 100% and 40% programs. Drop-downs above. Scene = Guest Room. Controller = Guest 6-Button KeyPad or Guest Room (scene.) Set = GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light or Guest FanLinc Fan-Light

@MrBill After some playing around with adjust scene, scene, controller and set. I found the right combination. Thank you MrBill!

@MrBill I have a scene with one controller and one responder. The controller is the 2334-2 6-Button, and the responder is a Fanlinc. Since there is only one controller I had used just one adjust scene statement in the program, however after your comment just for fun I added an additional adjust scene for the responder as well. On top of that I have direct program statements for both the controller and the responder in the scene adjusting their on levels independent of the adjust scene. Kinda covering all bases and possibilities while trying to find the problem. Here's the current program. Guest Light Ctrl Day - [ID 0044][Parent 0006] If Time is Sunrise + 20 minutes and 15 seconds Then $i.Guest.Ceiling.Light.Current = 100 In 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Lights / Guest Ceiling Lights' Set 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' To 100% in 0.1 seconds In 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Lights / Guest Ceiling Lights' Set 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Fan / Guest FanLinc Fan-Light' To 100% in 0.1 seconds Set 'Guest Room / Guest Ceiling Fan / Guest FanLinc Fan-Light' On Level 100% Set 'Guest Room / Guest 6-Button KeyPad / GuestRm KPD6.1 Fan Light' On Level 100% Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') As you can see there is both an adjust scene for the 6-Button controller (First Line in THEN) and the responder FanLinc (Second line in THEN). I realize I shouldn't need the second adjust scene or the other set statements for each device in the scene, but as I said it's not working and I'm throwing the kitchen sink at it. To test I ran the THEN portion of this program manually, below are the results. I did some cut and paste so you can see both the left and right window panes simultaneously. Here is the scene with the scene selected, not a member of the scene. You can see that both the controller and responder are showing 100% in .1sec with a current status of OFF. However if I select just the controller in the scene the 6-Button controller, it still shows an ON LEVEL of 40% even though I just ran the above THEN portion of the program which clearly should have set it to 100%. See below for a detail of the 6-Button controller selected individually in the scene and still showing an ON LEVEL of 40%. The problem is that the light bounces between first the controller ON LEVEL setting and then to the scene setting. Initially the light comes on at the ON LEVEL shown by the controller and then about 1 sec later it changes to the desired scene level. It's irritating and fails the wife factor by a large degree. I can't figure out how to get the controllers ON LEVEL to match the desired adjust scene values.