lilyoyo1

The tabs are glued on as the battery is designed to be none replaceable.

https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/33710-solution-for-dimmable-led-light-strips-with-automations/

I still had the old link saved. Just people with hub issues so far. You're not missing anything

I didn't even know it came back.

You have my address. You can go ahead and send me mine. 😂

Have you checked the wiki?

How are things going with lutron in regards to Ra3?

At least with the app, there was demand....A LOUD demand. While i understand UDIs decision early on to avoid it since other apps filled the gap. As UDI brought new capabilities to the equation and those apps didn't keep up, they did what needed to be done since the chorus sung louder than ever before. Once again- they created a solution and the demand never came. The silence in support of you is deafening. No single other person has chimed in to support your argument. We have people asking about the HDMI, BLE, WiFi, etc but no energy management ?. I may, could, and should provide support for blinds but at what cost? In addition to the course, I'd have to hire at least 1 person to handle that. Because of covid, time off, etc. that means 2. Since I've gotten into this business, I've done less than a dozen. Is it really worth it to add that expense? It's cheaper and easier for me to sub-contract it, add my 20%, and call it a day. As i said before, should something change and clients want more, I'm more than willing to invest. Now, just isn't the time. The same applies for UDI. To design a module, contract with a factory to make it, storage, etc- is it really worth it? You're talking about 1000s of dollars from start to finish over 1 person. They can create a Node server to use existing devices (I believe their are some in their now) so that's an option as well. If Your chosen brultech device has an API, what's so hard about working with someone to see if they're willing to creat one? If hardware is required by udi- you can bring 90% of the people to the table but if that 90% only amounts to 9 or 10 devices, how's it financially responsible?

Those are individuals developing something on their own volition vs UDI taking time away from other projects to rehash something that was done once and not used based on the needs of 1 person. Comparing a free product (HA) vs UDI (paid) is comparing apples to oranges. HA is open source and free. I'd be the biggest installer here if i were free. HA doesn't have to worry about investors, salaries, taxes, or keeping the lights on. You're harping on Michel stating "until someone creates a node server" but celebrate a system where independent developers are literally doing the same thing for that system. Why is it ok for them but not UDI? There are energy devices out there but that doesn't necessarily translate to UDIs world. It's about knowing your clientele. For example, I'm not certified for installing lutron shades. I subcontract that out. Why? Because I don't install enough of them to warrant the cost or time investment. Does that mean shades aren't a growing segment or many people don't have or use them? No it doesn't. It simply means it's something that my clients (up to this point) aren't interested in. Should that ever change, I'd be willing to invest as I'm sure UDI will be willing to do as well. UDI adding Io ports, HDMI, etc to the new box is ok whether or not there's a plan for it. That's integrated hardware that allows for something to be down if there's a need in addition to historical demand for it (Io). If it wasn't there, you'd complain- but now complaining because it is. You can't have it both ways.

UDI has made an about face on things due to customer DEMAND (keyword). Without Google/Alexa they probably wouldn't be here now. While i don't need the app (nor am I a fan of it), there was a demand for it. A large number of debates about it has disappeared since it's creation. To stay relevant in business they have to adapt which sometimes means going against your ideals. I do it often myself. That's why I'll install ring cameras/doorbells and I'll use nest thermostats. It goes to why i don't install elk anymore. While i have zero interest in installing insteon ever again, if they somehow took over- I'd flip and use them for everything. We all have done an about face on something to stay relevant. However, the core beliefs can stay the same and play a part in our decision making. We've gone back and forth for ages over energy. As you can see from the lack of engagement, energy isn't important to users of this forum. With you being the only one clamoring for it, can you honestly say it's worth UDIs time and energy(pun intended)? Not once have i had a client ask about energy management in any capacity. I'd be wasting my time investing in it in hopes of more sales that simply won't come. The few people I've talked to about it (after our debates) generally has the same response as me. They don't care about it. They know if something is on their using energy. It they want to stop, they'll turn it off. They don't need to pay to know about that info.

Just like other companies, UDI has stuff with utilities outside of the Isy itself. This is just one of their revenue streams. If after 10 years they've only sold a few hundred units of something, i would say it's less about the cart and horse and more about a lack of interest. I get that it's your interest and maybe within your world it interests others but that hasn't translated to UDI's Isy world. Most likely he's saying energy within the Isy realm is a financial drain. It's great that brultech was working with you to work with the isy. However, energy is their business and with multiple avenues of access- you should be covered. The fact that polisy has been out for 2 years now and only 1 person (you at this time) is saying something about it kind of confirms the lack of interest.

Not sure why you feel polisy may not support insteon in a few years when UDI's next gen controller (eisy) supports insteon as well. The work for insteon is already done. They'd need to rework the whole system to remove insteon capability. Maybe somewhere down the line but definitely not in the near future to worry about another Isy. Besides, you'd simply be continuing on with an obsolete device

@Geddy- this is posted in the wrong forum. Since the op is using Polisy with the zooz stick, it could cause confusion with it being posted in the Isy zwave 300/500 series section To the op @Prana electric. Leviton uses hail for status. You'll have to use programs to query it and get status. https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/34097-leviton-zwave-plus-doesnt-report-status/#comment-321618

Not all node servers offers a trial. You could use the PG2 version which is free (though unsupported if you want to temporarily test things before purchase

It would help if you provide us with the devices you're having issues with, your programs, how you set it up, your Isy firmware & UI, etc

Anything that currently requires a controller will probably not change. Especially installer provided systems. C4 may support matter but it'll have to be your installer that does it not the end user

I don't really care about that. For my next home (should be finished in Feb), I've already decided on Ra3. I'm hoping the Isy/ polisy/eisy, supports it (long term). Business wise, it'll be great for me with homes that do not want to spend ra3/C4 money. Outside of that, I have no interest in insteon regardless. I just love insteon and UDI and want to use/keep both in my life in some capacity. UDI will be there but insteon may or may not be. Insteon part- I'm not concerned about. I refuse to continue using the same old thing.

??. Not this time. Insteon's look (the current iteration) has grown long in the tooth. When I look at other stuff on the market, it pales compared to what i want to achieve.... especially once I got the Nokia stuff. That's what really killed it. Once i saw the difference I couldn't stay with it.

I think it has to do more with the state of automation than the new owners desires. People have moved on from insteon. I know I've been an insteon supporter on here even after i stopped installing insteon devices. While i hope they succeed, I can't get behind the same rehashed stuff. The old stuff want selling then, it won't sell now

Perfect. Thank you. Go ahead and sign me up. ?

Does this mean the 2413s won't work with it?

Same process as swapping out a PLM. Best practice would be to read the wiki and follow it. Not following would be what not to do. https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:File_Menu#Replace_Modem_.28PLM.29 Also, make sure you have a recent backup of your system before doing anything

Contact UDI

I'd give them time. It was left a complete and utter mess. It'll take time to get a complete team hired, structured in such a way that makes sense for what they want to do and get things up and running. UDI's needs (and ours by extension) are going to be last on their to do list. The pre-existing sourcing issues will probably play a part as well as they'll want to make sure they can accumulate enough parts for their devices let alone another company. They arent buffoons. They didn't buy insteon out of the goodness of their heart. They bought it to make money. Whatever their business plan is, it's going to include 3rd party or it's not. No point in name calling like that just because it may or may not be the same as your desires. While the waiting sucks, it's something we'll have to do. With Ken being a long time fan of UDI in addition to still taking their phone calls (vs a flat out no), It does give me hope of a better future. While I'm done with insteon as it currently is (old line), it would still take a lot for me to use the new line as well. However, I still hope for it's success, and will be patiently waiting and watching to see how this all plays out

Isy exposes what zwave offers within a device category/command class. It's up to the mfg. whether or not they take advantage of it.