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It amazes me that so many folks on here complained about insteon and lack of changes but yet, all want things to stay the same as they used to be. If insteons look was that fresh, they never would've struggled (even before COVID). People would've been snapping them up and business would've boomed. Yes, nearly every home in the US uses toggle or decora style switches. However, it must be said that those swapping them out want something better than the standard fare. It's nice to keep things the same for existing users but how does that help long term growth? Existing users are already capped out for the most part. How many devices would they really purchase that would be sustainable for long term viability? Both old and new users OTOH would purchase multiple devices in order to rebuild their networks which means more sales over time. At one point, insteon did have great looking devices but it's grown stale when compared to other offerings. With looks being subjective, that does minimize the debate. However there are some things that can be quantified such as how a device feels and responds. Compared to zooz and the Nokia devices, build quality is much better on those. Switch response is as well. No cheap sounding click when a device is operated. Also, devices are much quieter when pressed. No super bright LEDs that needs to constantly changed because they're too bright in a dark room in addition to the understated classical elegance both bring to a home. The last part allows for easier integration into any decor. Refreshes happen all the time. That's how companies re-energize their base to get them to upgrade and attract new customers. That's why today's cars look nothing like they did 20 years ago. Home interiors are designed differently today than they were 10 years ago. Ditto for TV's, appliances, etc. Hell, even apple will redesign the iphone after a couple of years.

In dual band devices, timing is still based off the zero crossing regardless of how transmitted.

The RF is tied to the power line signal. With that said, the power line signal travels faster than the RF so RF only will be a tad slower.

I'd love to see them use the nokia line (renamed) vs bringing back the old stuff. Time to move forward vs holding onto the past. Insteon was sinking with the old line available. Prior to the last few years, many people lambasted insteon over the old line. Reality is, people have spoken and it's time to move on. Why bring old stuff back? Sure, you'll have quick sales while people stock up but nothing that will sustain them over time. As much as I supported them, i had already stopped buying insteon because the look has grown dated when compared to other modern offerings. Judging by all the devices available on eBay over the last few month, many others have moved on too. Either way it'll be some time device wise in regards to implementing changes. I'm sure all of their engineers and coders have moved on which means starting over with new people having to learn insteon. I'd love to see them make licensing deals but still question its worth overall. How many partners will jump on that band wagon when there are other technologies readily available and cheaper to implement.... Especially with matter on the horizon. I want to see them succeed but they have a long hard road ahead of them. Only time will tell what lessons were learned and if insteon can become viable again.

?. You don't see backup and restore in your screen shot

Your polisy doesn't have backup and restore options in the same place the Isy 994 has them?

Look at us trading places. I hope I'm wrong. When they finally release product we'll see.

No it does not. It's specifically for (excluding/including) removing a device from an old controller in order to add to a new one. Migrating is a different story which polisy doesn't support currently

It will be. Looks like some of the worst people (1 specifically) will be returning unfortunately.

You don't have to use the forum search. You found this subforum and pretty much every post since they shut down has been about what you've asked and has been kept here. @Geddydid a fantastic job of keeping them organized here so you don't have to search. Choose any of the top 5 or 6 posts, start from the end, and you'll have the most recent information that people have speculated on.

No one knows. It's all speculation. Did you actually try to search? The top 4 or 5 threads on this sub-forum is nothing but discussions of what you ask Since you read the information already on that website, you can also ask there.

I'd assume its the same reason why it's cheaper to buy chicken with the skin on it than without it. They're charging for doing the work and putting it together for you.

Yes

Judging by the name, I'd say S. America. With the additional details in regards to insteon help, possibly Brazil

Not necessarily. You can end up being stuck with what they want you to have vs whats actually possible

It's sound advice but 18" may be a bit much. Even with wifi routers, they say your device shouldn't be too close. @MrBillresponse hit the head squarely on the nail

If anything, I can see it stifle innovation. Why work to build a unique ecosystem when someone can just let Google, Amazon, and Crapple do the work

You can check on their forum. They haven't announced anything to my knowledge but matter isn't on my roadmap right now

You can purchase a zooz zwave stick and use that along with the simplicity studio PC controller software to update your devices. Buy the zooz USB stick from UDI since they said those who purchase it from them will get a full credit towards their new board. That way, once you buy your polisy, you'll already be ready with your other pieces

Keep in mind that having a repeater too close is just as bad as having one too far. There's a chance it may not even be used for repeating. If it is, you can also potentially be wasting a hop. For example, one of my outlets is a couple of feet from my controller. It's not a repeater to any of my devices. It's not a problem since it was out there for other purposes but just using that to show being close isn't a catch all

Nokia does not own insteon patents. Smartlabs owns the patents. The Nokia name was only licensed for their new product line. Michel has already stated he's bound by a NDA so he wouldn't be able to name any other companies and none has spoken up so anything in the future would be up to them and unknown to anyone outside the winnimg bidder. Yes, insteon will continue to be supported by polisy. It already supports it so i highly doubt UDI would make an about face and remove it after investing so much time and effort to add it. 5-10 years from now as the landscape changes, who's to say

I dont know if its been removed but x10 shows up in the program list like it does with the isy. I dont use x10 so I cant text. I think the module wasnt ported over so you cant give it a name like the before. You can always try it and see what happens.

Insteon doesn't have anything to do with zwave. Zwave direct association does not work in that manner so what insteon does/did would have no bearing.

That's not the popcorn effect. Has nothing to do with repeaters. It's the fact that each device responds 1 at a time vs simultaneously like insteon. For example, add 10 relays to a scene and each will turn off individually. Do the same with insteon and you'll hear a single click in unison.

That would be device specific when it comes to zwave. You need to check the online manual for your device and see what the parameters are and then set them