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I'd assume associations work properly with eisy but with the limitations of it, you'd probably be better off with the ISy doing the routing unless speed is of the essence such as using a sensor to turn in a light.

Where does it say that? Insteon scenes reside in each device regardless of device type...ie: any insteon device can control any other insteon device regardless of what it is. Just had to be in range of the signal With zwave you have 3 ways to control other devices. 1) controller is the middleman for scenes (most common) 2) direct association: device to device communication. Limited to 5 other devices. Must be in direct range of the controlling device and all devices must support that association and the controlling device must be scene capable. (2nd most common) 3)assigned association. Same thing applies except you are able to talk to devices not in direct communication with the controlling device. With that said, the controlling device must support this capability as it sets its own path separate from the controller. (Least common). In addition, instruction devices can all have different ramp rates and levels. Not so much with zwave. Where is it that insteon is similar to this?

Zwave doesn't handle scenes the way insteon does so if you're used to insteon you'll be sorely disappointed. Theirs is a convoluted mess which the Isy doesn't handle well but from what I'm hearing has been redone to work better with the new board (still a mess though). Depending on your issues, the new way still may not fix it due to how different zwave devices work.

I don't see why not. Michel stated that both eisy and polisy has the same programming. Since it'll be using PG3, nothing should change

You might want to re-read those discussions about nokia hubs. It was UDI discussing adding support if they could get their hands on them which unfortunately fell through. Even if what you say were possible- who has one? Are they supposed to support something that only a handful of people has, has not been released, and that's next to impossible to get? Reality is; insteon is dead. You have a new guard acting like the old guard which looks like 3rd party support/cooperation isn't a priority. It's not worth it to anyone to spend time and effort trying to reproduce a hack that 1 person popped up on here saying they did and then disappeared when there is a tried and true method of restoring bad poms along with a resident expert that's more than willing to help (along with a repair person on ebay).

Reverse engineering. It's not that it can't be done. It's that no one wants to hack it together to make it work. HA is open source so anyone can work on things while UDI is a company that has to answer to themselves and investors. It's not cost effective for them to take the time for a dead system that even the owners aren't currently concerned about themselves.

Were they wireless devices or controlled by wireless devices

I'm not referring to this as an installer. I'm referring to UDI having to take the time to reverse engineer how it works to get the isy to support it. It's not as simple as hooking up a standard PLM and getting it operable. This is an issue insteon needs to solve not UDI ***See Goose66 post above.

For the consumer it's useful. For business purposes not so much when you're spending time trying to make something work without support from the mfg... Especially for a dead/dying brand. That's time and resources being taken away from other things that can earn more money for them.

I wasn't referring to the hub pro since UDI can't support something that doesn't actually exist and would depend on insteon actually making it and releasing. The Nokia hub was looked at as an option but Michel stated that was a no go due to the terms. From the ops post, he was referring to the 2245. Regardless of hub- Michel has already stated no new insteon support will be forthcoming without full insteon development support so it's still the same end result.

It's not compatible with the Isy. It has been stated that UDI will not support this without full cooperation from insteon which so far they are not willing to do

What are you talking about? The information you've provided is completely false and without merit. It sounds more like you're trolling than actually posting true information. UDI has a constant presence on their own forums as well as their website. In fact Michel was on here earlier today.

You may be better served by contacting universal devices directly on their website. They would know about their shipping times better than forum members

Smarthome was purchased by someone else which may be why it's not back online

Regardless, it's still a huge fire risk. Outdoor outlets are not as controlled the way indoor outlets can be. Even indoors, it's still a huge risk with an embedded dimmable device where no one would know its there in addition to no safety controls in place for accidently use. There are a multitude of posts on here where people have used dimmers with incompatible loads and had close calls with fires. It's the ops house so he has to make that determination whether it's worth it or not but due to location and situation, it does set him up to lose his home to a fire

The more things change the more they stay the same...

Since no one has migrated with zwave yet, I think it would be hard for anyone to answer your question with any certainty in regards to the cost of things. I would say that the more times you migrate, the greater the chance of something going wrong. If you're planning on getting eisy- wait for it and then migrate. If you're ok with sticking with polisy; get the matter board and migrate to that. While Michel has stated September being the release month, I'd assume December as a time frame due to delays and demand (no guarantee they wouldn't sell out quickly).

Yes, you can enclose it. However, the dimmer module isn't as hardy as the outdoor module. Depending on where the op lives, humidity and temp will make it a short lived install. Op also didn't have zwave and stated he has no desire to use it. For the op- I'd recommend against using any embedded dimming device in an outdoor outlet. I say this because an embedded device will make both outlets dimmable. Even still, with it being outdoors, it's too easy for someone to plug something in thats incompatible. There have been enough confirmed reports of people having fires with insteon dimmer devices and while controlling incompatible devices that the risk isn't worth it. At the end of the day, it is your house so you have to weigh the pros and cons of this approach as liability would fall on you and insurance probably wouldn't cover.

https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/37523-matterz-zmatter/#comment-344095

Polisy has its own board that will be released as well. Both will be upgraded together. USB plm will work with eisy via it's USB like the cable above for the serial PLM in this post

https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/37776-eisy-home-packaging/#comment-345176

Doesn't matter. The last 3 numbers denotes 6 or 8 button. The 2334 is the same for both. 2487s replaced the 2486s and 2334s replaced the 2486d

If you notice in your link it says 2334 are dimmers

There's no confusion. The 2334s are newer. The numbers were changed to differentiate the dual band from single band models. Not all 2486s are dual band. I believe there was 1 revision that was before they changed it to 2487s

Doesn't have to say it. It's still dual band.