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@MrBill I should add don't upgrade to 5.3 if you do not have the new board.

Who reads nowadays? That's too much work!

Try rebooting your isy

Does your firmware and ui match

4.0 was eol once 5.0 matured. It'll be supported in regards to continuing to work as is but no new database updates for new/upcoming devices. All advantages of 5.0 has been stated. Nothing else is there

You'll need a PLM then.... The new line becomes more attractive at that point

Maybe you'll become more convinced once they release their new stuff. A combination of both would be a win-win. No argument there. I'm just wondering how many would be willing to pay for it to justify that. Times like this , I lose my argument with you in regards to single source. At the same time though, I'd still only want 1 vender when it came to my light switches. I wouldn't want 3 or 4 different styles just to control my lights. Their issue isn't cash. Money isnt making things easy for asking, sony, and others who are facing their own shortages. Insteon does need to replace some of the older guard though. There are certain people there who are holding them back greatly

If I had the money I'd definitely put an offer in to buy them. Can't say I'd include zwave inside insteon devices though. While I understand the desire, I don't see the benefits of it. Zwave is good but when it comes to lighting, insteon is better. To integrate a lesser technology means buying another chip, paying whatever associated fees needed to become certified, etc. Now instead of a 50 dollar switch (that people already complain about being to much) you have a 75 dollar device so they end up buying another zwave device that's cheaper. What I would do is refocus the hub to include more 3rd party devices that could be integrated; such as wifi locks, hue, ecobee thermostats, and other stuff that insteon doesn't have (or does a better job of). This way, those who do not want the capabilities of a full featured controller can have an all in 1 solution with insteon on a basic level. I'd also emphasize more and deeper partnerships with other controllers (obvious picks Isy, homeseer, etc).

2. The original and now the new ownership group. Certain leadership in regards to sales and so forth really should be replaced

If all you have is insteon and feel the way you do about expanding, then I don't see any point in upgrading

You did it wrong. https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:Link_Management_Menu

Does your firmware and ui match? What was your exact process to add the device

Unfortunately it is. I beta test for a few companies and they've pushed back releases and have cancelled others outright due to availability of stuff. Alot of people fail to realize that almost anything electronic requires some type of chip to run in today's world. Whether a its a calculator, smart switch, refrigerator, or car...It's needed. We just consume so much and desire so much more. It's going to take time for them to catch back up

There's been shortages of stuff all year for many things.....not just insteon. It's noticable because you're looking for insteon. If you start looking for specific devices from other companies and chart those for the past year, you'll see many more shortages has happened and are currently happening. 2 quick ones that come to mind are harmony remotes and lifx light strips. There are zwave 700 series devices that were slated for release last year that still hasn't been released. If your focus is only on 1 thing, you can see everything that can and does go wrong with them. However, when you have a multitude of different dealings, it does open you to the bigger picture of what's happening.

The lack of available devices are due to chip shortages. It's the reason why auto mfg. are having issues, PS5 shortages, etc. Even Samsung has announced they'll be having issues with makimg another flagship phone this year due to the shortage. https://www.google.com/amp/s/bgr.com/2021/03/17/galaxy-note-21-release-date-might-be-canceled/amp/ Insteon has always been tight lipped to their own detriment in many others eyes. Whether they say something or not is their choice. However, the fact that they have 6 brand new products currently showing in the fcc database (easily researched) as well as me ruined by other people on here is still ignored. Regardless of UDI and insteon's business issues, them coming out with 6 new devices does throw a wrench in the argument that they are going somewhere. Insteon has its own issues that they bring on themselves. With that said; it truly amazes me that with so much information available to us, we still don't take a modicum of time to read and stay abreast of what's going on in the world- yet have so much to say about stuff based off assumptions

You may be right. I've never liked the toggle modes to see how they react to different variables to know for certain. At least he has something to go off of in order to get going. He can easily set up the scene properly and if that still doesn't work out the kpls back into non toggle mode to see what happens

I think it's a combination of both in regards to trying to use a single scene in addition to using the toggle modes vs non toggle. Toggle send a specific command to everything in that scene. Since controllers are responders too, a toggle on would tell all devices to turn on regardless of how configured. The isy allows him to use 1 scene since they are still their own controllers within that scene. I do the same with my upstairs lights. The 4 locations that turns on those lights together are all controllers in 1 scene. However, the behavior is different depending on which button i hit. With that said, the scene isn't setup to be mutually exclusive so it doesn't cause any other issues. Regardless, he's doing something wrong with his setup since we both know it's possible to accomplish what he's trying to do.

It wasn't posted in the wrong forum. The problem most likely is that you didn't tag (get the attention of those) who resonded to your original question, after you asked your follow up question. They probably didn't check back in to see if you said anything else. To answer your question, the only nuances that someone can say upfront would be to ensure that you have enough devices to built a strong and solid mesh network. Anything else would be specific to whatever programming you were writing.

It probably does play a large part in things and how they work. Insteon's weed designed to work without a controller so the right modes are built into the devices themselves. Because of this, they would override the information that is sent via a scene. Toggle on- on command sent Toggle off- off always sent

Your issue has nothing to do with insteon, zwave, no the isy. It is completely how you are setting things up. 2 different people have shown you with examples what to do only for you to still do it incorrectly (according to your examples). This is solely operator error. Not Insteon, zwave or isy shortfalls.

I can't speak on your version with 5.3 since I haven't used those since the dual band versions came out. One thing I noticed is that you're using a single scene with all buttons as controllers instead of individual scenes for each controller with the other buttons as responders in the corresponding scenes like I had in my earlier example Ie: A- Main Light (one scene) B- Lamps (Separate scene) C- Relax (Separate Scene)

My programs have nothing to do with the other buttons. For the most part, all of my systems are designed to work without a controller so it's paramount that a controller is not needed for most of the setup. If you set your scene up exactly as I have shown, the other buttons will turn off on their own. Most likely you have not configured your buttons in the controller to send the off command to your other buttons. I've configured hundreds of keypads over the years in this manner and all have the same behavior once programmed.

Did you try start linking and use the set button on the outlet

You can find the reasons for why your isy is blinking by reading the wiki https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Main_Page#Front_Panel_LEDs.2FLights. Make sure your isy is connected to your network

⚠️ warning: poster above is a spammer. Previous post was a copy and paste from a 4 year old post