lilyoyo1

Have you thought about smart bulbs? While the initial expense may be higher, you would be able to achieve what you want in regards to dimming and color temperature. Smartbulbs would allow you to create scenes that automatically changes the color temp for the day and time the way you would like it to be. You can even set them to turn themselves off should someone not turn them off at the switch. If you have an ISY on site, this can be controlled via that or whatever bulbs you choose app

I use the same ones too

Great- Kickin Crab it is. ?

When you're talking about 8 bulbs its going to be much brighter than you anticipate....especially with LEDs. as a test, Id unscrew 6 to see how bright they are as that will let you know if you have unrealistic expectations for what you are trying to achieve. Its the same thing in my bathroom. The recessed lights in the general bath area are the exact same as the 1 over the shower. The bathroom (shower area) is much darker dimming the shower light down vs the same level I can achieve when dimming the other lights. I can swap out every other bulb with the shower and get the same results

Lets be real. Multi Billion dollar companies with teams of cyber security folks are still hacked. Nothing is really going to stop anyone at the consumer level from being hacked. Once you realize that, it's easier to proceed accordingly

It's been repetitive. That's why I'm simply agreeing with upstate

According to you, they've. Disco'd the line and out of business. They shouldn't be able to do any of what you just said

Don't worry, the buy now links and subsequent pages that pop up in order to buy the product your eyes think they see isn't real either. Just the Matrix playing it's usual tricks

Since they've discontinued the line and shut down according to Upstatemike, nope. But yeah, that's the next sale

LEDs are not incandescent bulbs. The mechanisms they use to work is completely different which is why you have different results. Incandcents use a filament which warms up which is why you have more control over how low they go when turn on and off. Led bulbs are electronically driven. They require a certain amount of energy to power them on which is why they have a hard time turning on at extremely low settings. Electronically controlled bulbs such as lifx and hue can turn on lower than standard LEDs due to how they work but even then, the output is not nearly as good as it is with incandescent bulbs. I have found, when the isy is the one turning on the light, I can have them turn on lower than i can do when holding the switch on. With that said, that's not a problem for me since I use presets and the Isy when turning on the lights vs physically pressing and holding a switch

I'd make a pigtail out of an old extension cord, plug it in close to your PLM, and use it to factory reset the devices you are trying to add. Once factory reset, choose new insteon device, press and hold the set button until you hear the chirp to see what happens

I've done over 100 homes with insteon and warm glow bulbs and haven't had a single experience that you've had. While electronic dimmable bulbs can go lower and turn on lower than standard LEDs, most of the light is unusable below a certain point anyway. In fact, I've attached a few photos to show how low it can go with zero flickering. The brightest photo attached is @ 12%. At 1% you can barely tell that it's on.

They had it labor day weekend. Their website doesn't exist anymore. It's just our imagination ?

Ok. You're right. The whole line is discontinued and they will be shutting the doors next week. Happy now.

I'm not going through this again with you. We'll call a company with a new product line going out of business. I'm done with this

Works for me. I think me and @Tekenwould subconsciously take those spots anyway. ?

True but it's on hold. I was referring to products that they've said they'll continue to produce during the shortage. I could've been clearer

Funny you say that since their website shows they have stock of all the devices they do make

You never answered the question about your UI. What is your UI?

??? You have to take the whole statement into context not just a single line

No one can lay anything out for you which is why these debates go on forever like they do. There are so many different products and protocols that there's something for everyone. It's best for you to look at the pros and cons of all systems, and see what works best for you and what you're trying to do as everyone's situation is different. It's like asking someone what's the best car to buy. A Ford person will say ford while a Chevy person will say Chevy. For me, my next system is shaping up to be Control 4. However, not many people can pay (or want to pay) what C4 costs. The other downside is that it requires a dealer to install and maintain (there's some things a user can do themselves). If you were to ask me what's next, I'd say C4, which probably doesn't fit what you want to accomplish.

Did you look on smarthome.com where they are sold? They are showing that all of their switches are in stock and have for at least the past month

I guess if you say it long enough eventually you may be right one day. But then again, going by your "observations" I can name quite a few companies who are going out of business pretty soon

How have you established they're going out of business? Just because their business plan no longer fits your narrative, doesn't mean they are shutting down.

I remember them. I had forgotten all about them until you just posted