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That is only Google's memory of what you registered before. The reason I ask is because my ISY portal will not download to GH anymore. When I disconnect and reinstall any GH device I was getting the same problem. That seems to have gone away by itself, but I still cannot edit and update from the ISY Portal. I can control some devices but my setup is not working well since I copied my Alexa devices and GH will not do most of them. I wondered if this was happening to you also. After waiting for a month for an answer from GH support team. They replied. "We cannot help you" It seems Google went through another round of security update on all their systems and many older setups are just not compatible anymore.

Welcome to the forums! What happens when your download your setup from the ISY Portal? Does it succeed at downloading to the GH service?

Look for "factory reset" in the manual, not the little piece of paper you get with them.

As per Paul above, was the device factory reset before adding into your Insteon system upon first implementation?

Once they get flaky the batteries need replacing anyway. I gave up on detecting the batteries are low and usually just watch for the multipe flashing LED or jusr lack of function now. I still record and keep a list of reported low batteries in a variable though, for whan I get a round tuit.

That should work fine unless the lights are being turned on from somewhere else other than the switch itself. If it occasionally doesn't work then you may have a comm noise problem.

For the future, repeat repeats lines below itself only. Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

Typically you have to use Control Switched on which watches the Switch paddle and not the light dimmer circuit, as Status does. Wait timers are retriggerable. Post your program. Right click on the program title in the program tree and select "copy to clipboard". Paste here.

Welcome to the forums! I believe the java you refer to is embedded into the browser and yes that is being discontinued, across the board. However java being used by any operating system is not related to the browser. Admin Console runs in that java system and does not require a browser. Having said that, I have not been able to get the admin console to run under any java system except Windows 7 and 10.

A query of the MS in a program will clear the lowBat signal. I am not sure if doing it manually will as you need to put the MS into linking mode and that would likely clear it anyway. Unfortunately you have to access the MS and open the back to do it.

Always factory reset Insteon devices. It gets rid of any links, X10 installed links, and weird setup memories that the device has gathered over the years. It's fast and easy on most devices.

The real truth is coming slowly. As much as I am going back to Alexa devices, my wife has turned to online library vocal books. For fun I asked Alexa to read the same book she has Meaf. library subscribed to and it started playing it, with pause, resume...the works! Awesome! Now since then, every day, I get a spam email from their book reading service to join etc.. ignore, ignore, ignore.. After a week of the spam, I decide it is legit and decide to click on the unsubscribe link. Oh no!. Maybe a phishing link? Only more subscribe to their club at $15 / month. Not happ'nen'!!! After another week of spam I tried a larger computer screen to dig around and get rid of this annoyance once and for all, or complain to amazon about their self-enabled skills. At the entrance to the webpage it notified me about being a dirty Canuckistani, and gives me the choice of the .com or the .ca website. This time I chose the .com website where I now find subscription options to the account (that I don't have), with all the "send junk" settings enabled. Disabled everything I could find but I could not find a place to scramble my recorded email address. We''ll see what happens before the threats to amazon start next week. Cloud dependence? They all want it! All I want is cloud charged batteries.

I have three GH minis and I will be getting rid of three of them. The ISY Portal stopped being able to maintain them but they still control my devices/programs with whatever was installed at the time of that capability quitting. However the GH minis always wanted to display AI capabilities that I never wanted and just confused my home automation attempts. eg. "Turn on XXX lights." GH decides that I have lots of devices with "lights" in the name and responds with "OK turning on 23 lights" eg."Turn on TV lights" GH decides I have a "TV lights" program as well as a "TV" so it turns on my TV or resets it, as well. eg. "Turn on blue Bedroom lights". GH decides it finds "blue" in other devices/programs and turns on the MB blue lights as well as my 15 Gathering lights blue. IOW; I can't trust GH for HA. I suppose good AI means guessing when you don't quite understand and GH applies this to HA, incorrectly. Alexa never does this, but will do the "Which device did you want?" BS too. Maybe GH is learning that their AI guessing doesn't work for HA, and is trying to re-ask more when some words are not over 99% clear? It seems with google Home you can never use the same word twice anywhere. It's a complete fail so far.

Thanks Asbril. Unfortunately "synch my devices" only syncs the GH devices with it's own (out of date) cloud devicebase. The update from the ISY Portal has been broken since about DST change time and no fix is in sight. They are just taking up key receptacle space for more Alexas. They have become useless for HA. Alexa does it so much better, anyway. I may keep one for the comedic responses that GH does.

In the Google Home Device list in ISY Portal. There are four icons, garbage can, download, send spokens, refresh. Yeah Amazon was behind at the beginning. Now the contest is on but I find GH makes too many AI attempts that cannot be tolerated for HA. It operated things it should constantly. We hardly use it because we can't trust it and GH only understands two word phrase lengths max. For candid Internet answers GH wins.

There is a download button in the google home setup page. Mine hasn't worked since google changed it's security. The previously installed devices all work from GH but the ISY Portal doesn't work to download into GH anymore. See a few other recent threads in the forum here. Tickets were opened by Benoit (writer) and myself with no solution from google yet. Get an Echo.

This is using my KPL but the code and technique would be exactly the same. My advise would be to get rid of the remote controlled door locks and get an automatic self-locking Schlage combination lock. The 9V battery lasts about 2-3 years on my 4 units, it locks when you close it, and can be unlocked with a programmable combination using one hand in about 1.5 seconds. The autolocking mechanism can be locked off when desired but it will beep at you to remind you every time it is operated then. As usual I have a manual key hidden in the neighbourhood just in case. Neither of us carry any keys for anything for the last five years.

Well I found my own fix for this. I was using a Subnet mask of 255.255.254.0 so I could expand my network to 512 IP addresses, if ever needed. It seems when 255.255.254.0 is used with the Wake on Lan setup, the broadcast address must be 192.168.1.255, which would be the highest address of the range allowed. (Think contiguous addressing bits, not groups as IP addresses are usually presented with) I tried using the matching subnet mask in the ISY WoL specs and voila!...devices worked and turned themselves on! Success. Now here comes the nasty part: I went back to my router and changed the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 like ordinary people would use.....wow! Nothing worked again. Thinking that my television may have the wider mask subnet installed, I tried that change there with no success. After many trials and failures, it turns out I had to disable ISY's DHCP, it self reboots, then enable DHCP, rebooting ISY again, so that all that automagic DHCP stuff picks up the new subnet mask from the router, and ISY will stop trying to use the old mask. In the end I can see I have to power cycle every Ethernet device in the house in order for them to pick up the new subnet mask via DCHP service. A router reboot seems to have resolved most devices but not many use the broadcast technique to be found.

I cannot seem to make WoL function with anything from ISY. I can make this work just fine from my Asus router, so it seems to be enabled in the receiver, but not from ISY. I have multiple times compared the MAC address for matching. from the router to ISY. Also, I cannot turn on my MediaPC from ISY either, but it works fine from my Asus router test, also. My Samsung 55" doesn't seem to be WoL capable so I cannot make it work from either source.. I understand: -WoL is a brodcast signal that is sent to address XX.YY.ZZ.255 as the IP address of the Off device is not established yet. The "claculate" button geberates this address. I did use the Save button mny times. Test does noting so far. A test program does nothing so far. -WoL must be addressed to the MAC address due to th above lack of IP address. What am I missing for WoL in ISY?

I wouldn't call it simpler (compound logic) but better for sure. That should be more bulletproof for a basic workhorse resolution. Then other fancy ideas for the lights etc.. could be added in other programs after and still keep the basic solution wanted.

Better you than me. Glad you found it. We all learned from this for next time.

Don't make a complex program. Make a very simple program for each task you stated. You wanted the bathroom fan to turn off 20 minutes after being turned on? If ....Control Fan is Switched On Then ....Wait 20 minutes ....Set Fan to Off You wanted the bathroom light to turn on the fan? If ....Control Light is switched On Then ....Set Fan to On Make each job simple following your own requirements. That's just about it. Control/switched watches the switch paddle. Status watches the light level.

What Goose66 said. I have used every version of ISY since v5.0.1 and found a few bugs in v5.0.2 only. Never anything that made it "unstable".

This a technique using only ISY's logging feature (need Pro) that Mwareman created and a few of us developed further. The loggin method, the log, and the charting code is all inside the ISY itself. A browser is required to use the charting code.

Your posted words almost writes the program. Use Control is Switched On and a turn off the receptacle in the Else section. You can use another program as a watchdog to watch the receptacle for ever being on more than 45 minutes and send a notification to yourself.