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Also, as a troubleshooting tool, the admin console has a search function you can use on your programs to search for a particular device, variable, or even a raw piece of text. This can assist with finding the usage of a device in some old progam from ages ago, you may have forgotten about.

What type of dimming / switching mechanism is controlling them? IIRC Insteon bulbs will turn on with every power blink. Many other controllers do this as well. This was to accommodate the people that want to be able to switch the bulb on from the wall switch by power cycling at the switch. My Hue bulbs do that (grrrrrrrr..) but I have programs in ISY to shut them down upon booting up. You just have to stare into a room with a few hundred watts of LED white light for a few minutes in the middle of the night after each power failure.... frequently in the rural. Some bulb types are now user-programmable for what they will do in a power blink. EDIT: I see you are using a KPL and this probably doesn't apply. Have you checked your programs looking for ones that are set to "Run at Startup"?

ahhhhh..Good point! Never thought of it that way.

UDI reported they investigated using an RPi for ISY in the future but there are some licensing concerns that inhibited the idea from developing any further. It seems RPi isn't as open as people think.

It was announced over your Amazon devices a few days ago. Perhaps you were not there to hear it?

An easy remember could be based on one hour. The percent is a bit of a turnoff but...... Alexa turn on sprinkler to 20% = 20% x 60 minutes = 12 minutes.

We always tried to keep the design EEs in the closet. Usually two different coloured pencils could keep them out of trouble, Everytime they got out there was trouble and we had to call the EE control to net them again. To be fair, troubleshooting is not their training or experience, typically and we relied on some of them to haggle with management financial types over what colour RAM should be installed in the new systems. (Hint! The blue ones have slipperier electrons, making them much higher speed) IIRC Insteon was designed around dimmer noise. Based on X10 they changed the signal from the front porch after the powerline zero crossing to the back porch. This was to avoid the dimmer noise on the voltage rise up where dimmer switches switch, and onto the voltage drop down just before the zero crossing where most powerline waveforms are quieter. This has it's own challenges. ie. The sinewave frequency has to be known (N.Am. vs Oz. and Euro, accent dependant :)) and it has to be timed from the previous zero crossing. 2nd harmonics can shift the zero crossing making timing problems. These are huge in HID lighting (sodium vapour, mercury vapour). 3rd harmonics can do the same but can't remember where you would get them anymore, except from electronic powers supplies. Switching powers supplies can produce all different problems depending on how they rough control the higher voltage input. In the end the simulcast broadcast repeat has it's own problems. They all have to be synchronised to not cause cancellations and if each Insteon repeating device has a different zero crossing distortion device near it, they can make their own problems with each other. ahhh new feature! Mesh lock. When you get one that worked, press the button is an S-O-S pattern.

OP stated "incandescent" but Yes. LEDs can be a huge problem with dimmers. I think we are hearing less and less of that with newer bulbs here though.

Just reading your OP and this sounds like you have a tuned circuit on that leg that the noise being generated (somewhere) causes a resonance at that tuned frequency. I worked in metering for years and we found certain customers at the end of 14kV lines would blow high voltage fuses on the metering transformers twice per year. Once a new high-voltage customer was added to the end of the line the problem would typically go away. Some electrical noise will resonate in certain length of line and load combinations that tend to amplify the noise and it will focus on one spot as seen by standing wave demo tanks where the reflected waves synchronise in one particular place. ie. where the amplitudes become additive. As an experiment you could try adding a temporary piece of NMD 14/2 cable onto the end of the circuit (hanging in the air or on the floor) to see if you can change the tuning of this circuit. Alternatively plug in a heavy load on a receptacle in the same circuit and see if you can change the whole dynamic. Good luck. It sounds like your troubleshooting is better than your EE and electrician.

I believe Benoit, writer of the ISY Portal here, opened a ticket with GH a month ago or longer, , and has heard nothing back either. My GH app accepts the account and connects to my ISY Portal and sends through my vocal commands (as best as two words out of each vocal can function) but the reciprocal direction doesn't work for me. I believe GH has to reset my permission between ISY Portal and GH. GH seems to be refusing my ISY Portal (one direction only) and so far GH support is being stupid about it. Yeah, now that Alexa units are acting as smart as GH units, without ISY access, they are mostly useless now. After a week of trying to reset everything and start over a dozen times I gave up. I may try some more again using a new account. I am planning to give them away to somebody that uses their direct cloud connections only to home devices.

That is only Google's memory of what you registered before. The reason I ask is because my ISY portal will not download to GH anymore. When I disconnect and reinstall any GH device I was getting the same problem. That seems to have gone away by itself, but I still cannot edit and update from the ISY Portal. I can control some devices but my setup is not working well since I copied my Alexa devices and GH will not do most of them. I wondered if this was happening to you also. After waiting for a month for an answer from GH support team. They replied. "We cannot help you" It seems Google went through another round of security update on all their systems and many older setups are just not compatible anymore.

Welcome to the forums! What happens when your download your setup from the ISY Portal? Does it succeed at downloading to the GH service?

Look for "factory reset" in the manual, not the little piece of paper you get with them.

As per Paul above, was the device factory reset before adding into your Insteon system upon first implementation?

Once they get flaky the batteries need replacing anyway. I gave up on detecting the batteries are low and usually just watch for the multipe flashing LED or jusr lack of function now. I still record and keep a list of reported low batteries in a variable though, for whan I get a round tuit.

That should work fine unless the lights are being turned on from somewhere else other than the switch itself. If it occasionally doesn't work then you may have a comm noise problem.

For the future, repeat repeats lines below itself only. Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

Typically you have to use Control Switched on which watches the Switch paddle and not the light dimmer circuit, as Status does. Wait timers are retriggerable. Post your program. Right click on the program title in the program tree and select "copy to clipboard". Paste here.

Welcome to the forums! I believe the java you refer to is embedded into the browser and yes that is being discontinued, across the board. However java being used by any operating system is not related to the browser. Admin Console runs in that java system and does not require a browser. Having said that, I have not been able to get the admin console to run under any java system except Windows 7 and 10.

A query of the MS in a program will clear the lowBat signal. I am not sure if doing it manually will as you need to put the MS into linking mode and that would likely clear it anyway. Unfortunately you have to access the MS and open the back to do it.

Always factory reset Insteon devices. It gets rid of any links, X10 installed links, and weird setup memories that the device has gathered over the years. It's fast and easy on most devices.

The real truth is coming slowly. As much as I am going back to Alexa devices, my wife has turned to online library vocal books. For fun I asked Alexa to read the same book she has Meaf. library subscribed to and it started playing it, with pause, resume...the works! Awesome! Now since then, every day, I get a spam email from their book reading service to join etc.. ignore, ignore, ignore.. After a week of the spam, I decide it is legit and decide to click on the unsubscribe link. Oh no!. Maybe a phishing link? Only more subscribe to their club at $15 / month. Not happ'nen'!!! After another week of spam I tried a larger computer screen to dig around and get rid of this annoyance once and for all, or complain to amazon about their self-enabled skills. At the entrance to the webpage it notified me about being a dirty Canuckistani, and gives me the choice of the .com or the .ca website. This time I chose the .com website where I now find subscription options to the account (that I don't have), with all the "send junk" settings enabled. Disabled everything I could find but I could not find a place to scramble my recorded email address. We''ll see what happens before the threats to amazon start next week. Cloud dependence? They all want it! All I want is cloud charged batteries.

I have three GH minis and I will be getting rid of three of them. The ISY Portal stopped being able to maintain them but they still control my devices/programs with whatever was installed at the time of that capability quitting. However the GH minis always wanted to display AI capabilities that I never wanted and just confused my home automation attempts. eg. "Turn on XXX lights." GH decides that I have lots of devices with "lights" in the name and responds with "OK turning on 23 lights" eg."Turn on TV lights" GH decides I have a "TV lights" program as well as a "TV" so it turns on my TV or resets it, as well. eg. "Turn on blue Bedroom lights". GH decides it finds "blue" in other devices/programs and turns on the MB blue lights as well as my 15 Gathering lights blue. IOW; I can't trust GH for HA. I suppose good AI means guessing when you don't quite understand and GH applies this to HA, incorrectly. Alexa never does this, but will do the "Which device did you want?" BS too. Maybe GH is learning that their AI guessing doesn't work for HA, and is trying to re-ask more when some words are not over 99% clear? It seems with google Home you can never use the same word twice anywhere. It's a complete fail so far.

Thanks Asbril. Unfortunately "synch my devices" only syncs the GH devices with it's own (out of date) cloud devicebase. The update from the ISY Portal has been broken since about DST change time and no fix is in sight. They are just taking up key receptacle space for more Alexas. They have become useless for HA. Alexa does it so much better, anyway. I may keep one for the comedic responses that GH does.

In the Google Home Device list in ISY Portal. There are four icons, garbage can, download, send spokens, refresh. Yeah Amazon was behind at the beginning. Now the contest is on but I find GH makes too many AI attempts that cannot be tolerated for HA. It operated things it should constantly. We hardly use it because we can't trust it and GH only understands two word phrase lengths max. For candid Internet answers GH wins.