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So we either get a crippled Alexa system or help google track our lives, down to knowing what we eat, where we eat it, how long it takes to eat, and who we eat it with? Wow! Maybe I should get a google FitBit so they can track how my diet affects my sleeping habits and life expectancy. I am sure that information would be worth a lot of bucks to my insurance company. :( I am going to do a factory resest on my tablet, and then see if I can get access to the full alexa app features before and after, I disclose my google ID info to it again. It worked in the beginning but I was in the USA too.

Ahhh-ha! The plot thickens (for my problem). I have both options at the bottom of my smart home device list as well as my smart home scene list on my android alexa app. However I have no centre icon at the bottom of the screen, whatever that is. I only have the house and stacked bars graph icons. How would a mobile app user forget unwanted devices without the "Forget All" option? Each device and scene also have individual forgets beside them.

Did you scoll to the very bottom and "Forget all devices". Sometimes they don't update and/or duplicate if edits are made. Alexa sorts things into three tabs now. Devices, everything else, and alexa groups.

No there is only one app and one, latest, version online. The app allows, and enables different features depending on where you are located. I believe they keep a list of IP addresses or some other form of ID that they maintain to give different permissions to different groups. and are slow to maintain it. I just had a new feature pop up on mine today and no version update was done. Meanwhile my other RPi3 Chromium shows different menus and wording than IE 11.

The copy and paste is much easier with the admin console. I started with the Belias programs technique and then renamed everything to sane / workable names. I even used Integer variables for constants like this. If ....$sKitchen.leak is $cWET (can be permanently set to any value you like and it always works) Then ....

I think amazon has made a bit of a mess with their OCD details. They seem to have kept a list of locations by IP addresses and scraping my google account for location information and made a mess trying to clean up their extensive lists. It will come but it may be a while. I haven't tried my original android tablet yet. I had to remove all google accounts to get it to work in NY state in the beginning. When my google gmail account was installed again the app was denied me again.!!

You can have six commands from one button, but only four buttons. Or you could write ISY programs to toggle On/Off and dim/brighten on right side buttons and repeat for another device on the left side, having eight devices but not as nice. The devices don't have to do what the style of the mini-remote is doing. ISY always knows where the device's status is at then. With ISY, there is always a way!

Ahhh. I misread. It's the same old syncho error between devices. Thanks oberkc-kenobi!

With only one LED and 24 detected button push methods, how would any status be shown for the devices?

Like Paul I have an all Insteon system. There are reasons I thought about dabbling in some Zwave devices to mix with my dozen other WiFi (non-Insteon) components but the only thing I can think of is maybe the garage door opener and locks. I am not interested in remote control of either. I can open my self locking deadbolt door locks using a 4 digit combination using one hand, without pausing for even for one step, and pass through now. If I want to give somebody access I can give them a one time code for a one time pass-through. No cloud required, Zwave or other protocol necessary. Garage door? Not sure I want any control over it. I get notified if I drive away from it and leave it open. I believe on home automation, with remote control being a side effect, where I haven't automated that item yet. So far I have not seen the need to jump to a grid setup of Zwave to get one or two devices not included in the Insteon cluster of products to work.

Good point about the IP address however, I know from the original install that the app can snoop into my google accounts and locks me out of things when I have any google account information on any machine so far. The sideload from APKPure only lasts a few hours or less until it gets updated to the newer version automatically. I guess I could turn that off somewhere. Android is constantly making those options harder to find now. Amazon got back to me with a canned piece of info text to reset this and that and delete your amazon app cache etc. Go to the app store etc...All the things already done. Next step is to call them according to instructions. I am hearing they are becoming the best support in the world so I guess I am going to find out tomorrow. LOL

I have notified amazon of my problems, beinh most of the newer features including join-in are not available. I suspect amazon keeps a detail list of IP addresses that are not not allowed certain features and mine got missed when Canada was recently permitted to use these new features, being I am with a small ISP. We'll see what amazon has to say. Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk

That is more typical of an inline code style language. ISY is an event based trigger language. You can write programs to run based on variable value changes or just set them and pick up the value in the subroutine as kingwr posted above, or both. A variable being set to a value can not only trigger one of hundreds of programs to run based on the value you set the State variable to, but every one of them can use the variable and modify it as per global variable rules elsewhere. Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk

Tried deleting the app completely, rebooting the android mobile device and reinstalling. Tried deleting, installing the sideload APKPure app and loading their version. Changed my amazon account back to a default NY address. Got the same app version number every time with no device operating screens, no gui screens, snd no amazon devices in any lists except for the settings lists. Not happening here for now. Thanks all. Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk

You have declare your languagr as American English or it just doesn't work! Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk

I am using the app with the same version number. It has the same options as the webpage but I haven't tried a sideload yet. Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk

How does an Amazon device get associated with a device then? I have the same as Stu. No amazon devices are listed. I have created groups with different names but only portal elements found, can be included. Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk

There is always posting them to a thread with what you want to do. Some of us love the logic challenge. Others do crossword puzzles.

My ISY finder does not boot automatically to the admin console either. This changed a few months back again. It has been back and forth over the last few years. Why? I don't know..possibly different java junks? You need to double click on the URL of your choice. If you do not have one then click the add button and add your IP address of your ISY.

Stusviews sets his options using a SmartHome Hub and uses with ISY until ISY gets full support added.

Motion sensors have no heartbeat and their battery low signal is very unreliable. It may trigger at weird times and your batteries will last for many months after or it probably will not trigger at all. I record all mine and keep a list. I have two of 11 units owned that have sent low battery signals about two months ago and neither one has quit working yet.,

Use the ISY Else sections of the programs so you would get. Alexa. Turn Off All Lights Alexa...turn Off Bedroom light I use many programs triple duty. The If section operates like a smart HA box choosing one of the Then/Else sections The Then section can be vocally tied to Alexa...turn ON..XXXX The Else section can be vocally tied to Alexa...Turn OFF..XXXX

Awesome! Wild guess though!

Have you tried? {"scene": "OVUdx2Nampq7lAD"} {"on": true, "scene": "OVUdx2Nampq7lAD"}

OK...by "programs" I assume you mean "Network resources"? Since I don't use any grouping / scenes on any device, except inside admin console and a few between Insteon devices, I don't know what else to tell you for this one. I would be sure somebody will be along soon that will be more knowledgable. You may have to use the advanced editor (bottom right) to modify your thread title into a question to attract those guys. EDIT:Sorry...long time thread. Maybe start a new one with a question for help.