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Programs using State variables in the IF section can be self triggered for re-evaluation each time the value changes. Integer variables do not self trigger programs and must be manually run via another program (subroutine) or another trigger in the same If section. IOW they can be used as filters only. Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

I have been commenting all my disabled programs in the "IF" sections, when disabled permanently. I have been through this previously when all programs became enabled, and it took a few months to debug some of the programs enabled that shouldn't have been. It was also requested to have the disabled flag/checkbox displayed in each program many years ago. That may not have helped this situation though.

Strangely enough the units were on well water with only about 14 grains of hardness. mostly lime. Water was alkaline, not acidic. In the city where i had water dissolve the impurities right out of the copper plumbing, the water was extremely hard with calcium and very basic...high pH, not acidic. After experiencing several piping pea holes and flooding mess, the building codes here outlawed the cheaper copper pipe they had installed for twenty years and now all copper pipe is thicker walled and has some certification requirement. I sold that house. I knew what was coming over the next decade inside those walls. In addition that house was full of aluminum wiring and they used all push in self grabbing receptacles. They didn't know any better and those codes got changed right after also. Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

All depends on your water. We have "aggresive water" here and in my former home location and worse here in the city now. It eats through brass fittings (de-zincifies them) and copper pipe with impurities in it. Tankless water heaters last about 2-3 years as is their expected expected life and maximum warranties. Heat exchangers all developed leaks. One Rhudd unit was replaced under warranty before the 1 year mark. The system must be flushed with 4-6 gallons of 5% vinegar every six months for 4-6 hours or the flow sensors (mainly) would become desensitized with calcium build-up or sodium from water conditioning equipment (ion exchange) . The large capacity (197,000 BTU) meant the minimum burner capacity needed a larger flow with full temperature rise or the logic wouldn't consider turning on or it would have boiled the water into steam. The pilot flames would blow out every few months when the storm winds blew. 50-90 mph winds were typical on the hill were I was. This took powering down the unit, draining it, and rebooting to remove the lock-out. Rinnai or Rhudd units both had the same problems despite different chimney designs and manufacturers. The cold water sandwich problem of the tankless concept was much reduced in later designed from the earliest Rinnai units installed. They started having small tanks inside them for carry over of hot water demand. Later the designs included small circulation pumps to keep an external tank of hot water hot as the problems became public knowledge. The circulation pumps were not for instant hot water in the pipes but that design idea may have changed also, once you have a built in circ. pump.

The additional delay of a tankless water heater sensing the demand for hot water makes users very aware of the length of time it takes to get hot water from a remote faucet. Tankless water heater manufacturers have tried to compensate for this fact by creating hot water pipe reheat systems as well as small tank systems that keep a small tank of hot water ready at all times to avoid hot water response delays, somewhat. After going through 3 Rinnai, and 2 Rudd tankless water heaters over 15 years before selling my last home, I can tell you I would never touch another gas tankless water heater in a home design. The maintenance and high cost of replacing them every few years made it the most expensive hot water I have had. There were times when it wouldn't kick in because the flow sensor could not detect the small trickle of hot water demand required to say... wash you face at night. Sensing very low flow rates was one of the biggest problems and the newer small tank systems were designed to alleviate that. Tankless water heaters are promoted by the huge capacity of their burners, typically. This is a mistake for the uneducated in their operation. The gas burner types have a binary valve system that turns on gas burners to match the hot water draw. When a large flow is required to be heated the larger gas burners are ignited and when a smaller flow is detected, smaller burners are ignited. A binary combination is used for most intermediate flow draws. With a limited number of gas burners and a large capacity unit, this means the smallest burner is only needed for usually more than 0.4 gallons per minute with X degrees of temperature rise. When you run a medium flow at a faucet with a medium warm water mix, the hot water demand is less than the 0.4 gpm draw from the hot water source. When you mix hot and cold water at a sink tap you must turn the water on almost full blast to get the tankless to respond to the demand. Then when you set the tap back to a reasonable level of temperature for actual usage, the tankless will shut off and the pipes full of hot water will fill with cold water again.

I admit I had to look that one up. I have never used it before. It sounds like a misnomer for that command. "flush" would have been a better name IMHO. Don't forget to run "toiletpaper" just before "flush" and then "sync".

I thought only https websites required certificates??

After sleeping in the heat due to poor quality thermostat of another fancy brand at my son's house, I realised a feature that I completely forgot about on the ecobee stats. ...the ability to have two different Cooling and Heating schedules with the same temperatures (no differential). What this means is, if you want the A/C set to 72 degrees you must set the heating to less than 70 degrees, as the stat will not allow settings closer than 2F between any scheduled temperatures. When changing seasons on other stats, all scheduled temperatures must be reprogrammed. If you have to change back and forth several times each fall...well good luck to you. This is a problem that doesn't exist on the ecobee thermostats. You simply switch from cooling to heating or vice versa and the pre-programmed schedule takes over without any need to reprogram your setpoints for up to 10 different times of the day and 7 days each week. This is a very obscure feature that most stats have a problem with and users will never realise it until having to go through the long time it takes to reprogram every scheduled time, several times per year. These stats simply do not have multiple schedules making it easy to switch seasonal profiles. I should mention that this "defective design" stat is a smart touch screen stat that came with an ECM motor style new furnace and A/C unit., and not a cheap unit. This is so typical of every other brand of the 5-6 other stat brands I have experienced.

A few times I have contacted them on WhatsApp and got a response within minutes. In my apartment building they kill the heat/AC power wire for each alternate off season and my thermostat would use it's AI (programmed assumptions) to change the menus that didn't need to exist on the stat. All those functions would disappear from my thermostat not allowing my stat to have it's humidifier set-points adjusted. Ecobee support showed me how to bypass the automatic feature of the wiring connections sensing and got my all my humidity set-points back on the stat. MY ecobee stat controls my floor humidifier via the ISY ecobee NS (thanks @Jimbo.Automates) and an Insteon On/Off plug-in module.

We don't hear much about that anymore here. My guess is it never paid off much for the grid, and only served to subsidize the cost of Nest thermostats mostly. Two of my kids have Nest thermostats but have slowly disabled most of their fancy features because they never really worked well in the first place. Ecobees are far superior in operation features, accuracy, and have no need to spy on your house activities. Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

I use a few features of ecobee+ only. My electrical utility does not, and cannot, control my ecobee stat. I didn't sign up for any part of that. I just enabled the features I wanted, like A/C compensation for high humidity.

Can you tell me the difference between PG3 and PG3x please?

Are your MSes data traveling via Alexa to get into your ISY box, and... Are you not using pseudo variables to emulate pseudo MSes in the alexa app via the ISY portal? That is the way I have my data paths arranged so my comments may have been mute for your case.

My Alexa boxes will still report news information, they stole from the news networks. in Canada, yet. Try disabling and then re-enabling your Routines in Alexa. Amazon boxes seem to do this about once every two years and they will never admit they found a problem after it starts again. I went about 4-5 months once and they finally started to work again. At time a software or firmware update will diable all your routines. Another thing that happens is you disable all your devices in the Portal for more than a few seconds, Alexa app will delete or disable all your routine connections to devices that didn't exist at that time.

I saw that USB one and considered it, but price and physically sticking out the back was a deterrent, so far. I guess I could short USB flex cable it up and away from the concrete box (bhind the drywall) it is in, in an apartment. The internal polISY board was so compact. Another negative is, they went back to those expensive and extremely short lived AAA cells. For the size difference I don't now why any company would support that size, when they have about 1/4 or less the capacity of a much cheaper AA cell. My stock of AAA cells has been declining with my divorcing all the X10 MSs and other gadgets not using them much anymore. hmmmm... maybe I'll wait until I come across some ZigBee things that handle microUSB-C adapters. I have a bad taste in my mouth from replacing 30-50 batteries per year for X10 and Insteon HA devices over the past several decades. My current 3 MS IIs are on adapter power now. I like it much better than buying batteries in bulk. Right now I only have one Insteon door detector that eats a AA cell each week or two. I couldn't get a cord to it easily, anyway. Any indication of how long a pair of AAAs would last in these ZigBee MSes?

That might convince me to go to Zigbee MSes next. I am tired of Insteon being a remote control only supplier and Insteon MSes are all RF anyway. The MS IIs have logical bugs in them and I need more. The dozen MS Is would become totally redundant for me then. Trouble is, I have two PolISYs and I don't see the Z-Matter internal board available any more on UDI. Is it still available yet?

Did you put the MS into linking mode? Is the hardware jumper set to "soft" adjust parameters? Turn your brightness up to about 70 so you can see LED responses to motion. Turn your sensitivity up to 70 so it can see motion. Is your MS set to off mode? It will not return to normal for 495 minutes (you setting) then and you won't see any packets sent. If your MS times off it must see no motion for at least 30 seconds (your setting) to reset, or it will not send another On signal...EVER. (bug in design)

IIRC, there was a thread about how the On Level is a one way parameter that ISY can set and operate to but cannot read it from some Insteon lighting devices. I may be way out in left field here but it just rings a bell in the back of my memory cells from about 2-3 years back here.

That is not commenting out code lines for debug purposes. You are adding more complexity of conditional lines into code before any debugging is needed and not any solution for subject of this thread. How would you debug those conditional lines if you suspected one wasn't working or doing something it shouldn't? Surely you wouldn't have added more conditions into those programs to disable the conditional lines. That would be getting more ridiculous. The OP is wanting a way to debug existing programs not complicate them.

Wrong thread? I don't see the purpose or a related message in this thread. Did you know you can copy a program to the clipboard and paste it here in a more readable text format? Right click on any program title in the program tree, and select copy to clipboard.

LOL...OK. I didn't realise I was in some specialty hardware thread since forum titles are not shown with new posts. You would have to contact the node server programmer and ask for it to be added. Good elaboration for somebody that was lost here.

Read my post that you quoted. Other than that previous answer I have no idea what you are asking. I don't understand what "outside a programming UI" means. Again. Temperature is an analogue value bit a status. Please clarify more of what you want to know.

Here is what a "scene" using the software I mentioned looks like. It takes about 0.5 seconds to execute from the first bulb to the last, 8 bulbs. The scenes are created dynamically by ISY, as needed by the ISY programmer. LivRm.theme.dim - [ID 003A][Parent 0043] If $sTheme.livRm is $cMODE.DIM Then $NRb.cwLevel = 2 $NRb.wwLevel = 15 $NRb.rgbLevel = 0 $NRb.bulb1 = $cBULB.LR1 $NRb.bulb2 = $cBULB.LR2 $NRb.bulb3 = $cBULB.LR3 $NRb.bulb4 = $cBULB.LR4 $NRb.bulb5 = $cBULB.LR5 $NRb.bulb6 = $cBULB.LR6 $NRb.bulb7 = $cBULB.LR7 $NRb.bulb8 = $cBULB.LR8 $NRb.bulb9 = 0 Resource 'NRb.set' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

When did the setpoint on the thermostat change to 74F? Actually reading back (I missed a few posts) I think you are correct and may have found another bug in v5.xx. There are still many remaining bugs since v5.0.1

The program will self-run when the setpoint on the stat is changed. Try manually changing your setpoint on the thermostat and see what happens to your variable. Also note that all variable designations are prefixed with a '$'. It is also a de facto standard, and a good idea, to add a method of denoting a state variable, to avoid user confusion during programming and debugging. It could result in variables used in programs looking like this: $sCool_Setpoint = ..... State variables may cause programs to trigger while Integer types will not. Not being identifiable in programs may cost you a lot of time later sorting out variable function confusion.