Brian H

V2.3 Had the Fujucon TY caps for C7 and C13. TI MAX232EI serial chip 2.4 and 2.5 have the same TY caps and MAX232EI. With a new daughter board with a protective network on the two serial signals to the outside world. Have not see a V2.6 so I can't say about any other changes.

Sounds correct. Both new production 2413 PLM's have the same base board electronics. With a different interface to the outside world. Both models should have the same power supply capacitors. The 2413S has a new daughter board. With a better serial chip with better ESD protection and a protective network on the two external serial signals. One will have a subcategory ID for a serial and a different subcategory ID for the USB. If you are going a long distance. I am not sure how you can use USB if the distance is over the USB specification distance.

I have had no ISY994i problems. Except power supplies going bad. Since the ISY994i has a fairly big voltage range. It was easy to get it back in complete working condition. If you are wanting to use the new I3 modules. The ISY994i will not support them as no new firmware is going to happen. The eisy and Polisy have later firmware that will support I3.

The 2413S,2413U and V2 of the Access Points. All use the same base main board. Except V1.0 that had an older designed board with some runs cut and fly wires added to update them for a Pi filter output. They have circuit runs on both sides of the board. Some connected with plating between the top and bottom sides. The capacitors for some places. Have the plated through holes. Use care not to tear the plating out of the holes and killing the unit. C3 and C11 are in power line derived dc supplies and the higher voltage should not effect operations.

C3 is the filter capacitor for the AC Line side of the supply. 450V should be fine and was used by many in the very long thread. Maybe taller but still should not hit anything when mounted. C11 is the filter capacitor for the Zero Crossing sensor and 50V should also be fine. As long as it physically fits and should if the kit was designed for the 2413S PLM. The two that matter the most are C7 and C13 the two in the switching supplies main DC output to run the whole system. Smartlabs tried many different capacitors in those positions. My original V1.0 actually has 10uF 25V with fly wire rework because the originally didn't have the Pi filter on the output. Versions have had 10uF 35V, 100uF 35V and 100uf 50V. In V2.3 they went with 100uF 50V Fujicon TY series capacitors that where supposed to be for switching supplies. V2.5. Now 100uF/50V Fujicon TY capacitor. Parallel to the main board. Maybe with some component fastening glue holding them. Because of the physical size too large to fit directly on the board.

If you can't find the white label with the six digit Insteon ID. Early paper ones where known to sometimes fall off from dried out glue on them. Not as easy as the sticker. Add it with the manual set button routine to an existing module. Then do a database link list for the module in the ISY and compare it to the ISY known links. It should have an extra unknown link in the modules database. That is the six digit ID of the unknown modules six digit it Insteon ID. Then you have to remove the extra link in the known module.

As you know. If you swap boards between the 2.5 and 2.6. A replace PLM is needed. With either combination. In the PRO you can disable automatic writes to battery devices and then do one at a time. Correct. The main board has the six digit Insteon ID and if you change the PLM or just the new main board with old serial board. The modules you are controlling will not process the commands if the six digit ID is different. One of the symptoms of a failing power supply. Is low link database count or a blank database. Sometimes you can reload it and it may last for a short time.

Yes you can but the replacement serial board with the link and scene memory. Would be empty and you would have to reprogram it. The Serial Daughter board has the memory for the links and scenes. It is the small one with the single electrolytic capacitor and the RJ45 socket to the outside world. The main board has the firmware revision, six digit Insteon ID, Category and Subcategory ID in it. The one with many electrolytic caps on it.

Don't use any type of Insteon Dimmer devices but an On/Off type. Dimmers are not made for motor loads like a pump. On/Off types should control the pump motor. As long as the pumps load is below the modules ratings. You may also have to consider the pumps momentary starting current.

The 2450 I/OLink has the same switching power supply IC as the 2413 PLM. I have an older one with small caps and a few later ones where Smartlabs tried a bigger cap but it still was not rated for a switching supply. Can not say about the very latest ones. The surge suppressor warning maybe some have noise suppression components. The 2450 is power line only and that type of unit would suck up the Insteon Power Line Commands. Greatly reducing the distance it could receive commands.

Looks like they still have not put a label on the shipping cradle. To alert folks the cable is inside the inner packing cradle.

I believe 2.6 was sold shortly before the closure. Don't know if any revision above 2.6 is now in use. Besides the caps being questionable. I had see on Smarthome about some having static discharge and the two serial signal being damaged. I imagine some may have had connections to the two TTL level signals on the PLM with possible trouble. V2.5 has the new serial port daughter board. With a better ESD specification. Surge suppression network on the two serial lines to the outside world. C7 and C13 where changed to a Fujicon TY series capacitor with a better high frequency rating for switching supplies. They are through hole mounted capacitors. Just use some care. As some of them have a plating connection to both the top and bottom circuit runs. I accidentally didn't have the solder molten enough and tore out the plating between the top and bottom runs. Now I have a blue fly wire between a top to bottom connection.

Thank you for the information. It should be a help to some users of the RA2 products.

The eisy is a brand new product. That you seem to want to call your discontinued ISY994i. If you have a ISY994i. Look at the two LED's on the port 'A' connector and note their actions. That may give you a clue to what is happening.

If you have the 2477S Relay model. The new one may have a face plate with only the Off and On LED positions. The rest of the plate does not have any unused LED positions. Can't say if the new company went back to all positions on the face plat. The old ones will fit as the old company said the old ones fit fine. If you wanted all of them to have the same LED pattern as you older installed ones.

They are in a power saving mode and will not receive updates. Until you wake one up and then restore it. You may have a option (PRO firmware in an ISY994i) to disable automatic writes the wireless devices and then do each one individuality.

They indicted only the Polisy and eisy will support the I3 devices. As the ISY994i is discontinued and would no longer get the needed firmware updates. I have no information on linking an I3 to an I2 device in the ISY994i

Thank you for the findings. Maybe possible with the button routines. I forgot the Set Button Programming sequences. It does look like the LED brightness can be adjusted. I had looked in the Software Only section and it did not look like it could be adjusted remotely just with some manual button clicks and led indications.

I have a Light Dim on my ISY994i. Power LED to dim it out. I did not see the LED settings mentioned in any of the 2475D manuals I have in my archives.

The switch with the Red capped off. Is linked to another switch. That is controlling the load. When you replaced the bad one. Did you verify it was linked to the one with the load connected? Since the 2476D is the older power line only and the 2477D is dual band. You may have to do some manual things to get the new ones completely installed.

Verify the POE source voltage. The eisy is strictly 12V DC from what I saw on its sales page.

UDI sells a Serial to USB adapter. To use a 2413S on a Polisy. https://www.universal-devices.com/product/serial-plm-kit/ Don't have any information on the units serial port and if it is live. I think your pin out may need checking. From the sheet in the 2413S box. RJ45 Pin 1 to DB9S PC pin 2, RJ45 Pin 7 to DB9S Pin 5 and RJ45 Pin 8 to DB9S Pin 3

Probably a Date Code. From what I have seen. Some also had another number on it probably a production code.

It can be confusing to some users. Yes it is a serial connection but on a RJ45 network cable and connector. Used for serial communications.

I have seen other brand resistors also used. Designed for a two wire switch. With success.