Brian H

After you are able to see if the EZIO8SA has programmed the EZICOMM. We may have a better handle on what the problem is. I looked at one of your previous posts. The back photo shows the EZICOMM is a base 2413 Dual Band Module. So one more thing to consider is it has power supply capacitors just like we see in our 2413S PLM.

OK lets try this. Factory reset the EZICOMM and EZIO8SA. Power them back up and let the EZIO8SA reprogram the EZICOMM to look like a EZIO8SA. The LED on the EZICOMM should also pulse during the reprogramming. Take the EZICOMM and connect it to the PC with out resetting it. In the DockLight program PLM.ptp The Get IM Configuration 02 73. Should get a reply back of 02 73 80 00 00 06. If it was reprogrammed by an EZIO8SA or a 02 73 00 00 00 06 if it was not reprogrammed. I found the Get Version 02 60 always reports it is a PLM even if reprogrammed but the Get Configuration 02 73. Would be 02 73 80 00 00 06 if it was programmed and not the default 02 73 00 00 00 06.

Sounds like a good choice. If the adapters can be set to what polarity is on the Tip. It is + positive voltage on the Tip and negative on the outer barrel.

Maybe a recap would help. In your log file posted in the early messages. It showed the EZIO8SA with EZICOMM. Reporting it was a category 03 subcategory 2A. That is a PLM from Smartenit as the 2A is not one used by Smarthome and probably given to Smartenit as a third party device. I would have expected the 03 2A would have been caught earlier before the Administrative Console tried to add it and not program all the relay and input links in the module before giving the unsupported device message. It should have been 07 04 if reprogrammed. The flashing of the EZICOMM Set LED may give a clue to the programming data being sent and properly received by the EZICOMM from the EZIO8SA. Our tests where trying to see if the EZICOMM was being set to 07 04 and not the default 03 2A. Though not 100% conclusive. As you have found out.

When you had the older 2412S connected to it. The power was sent through the serial cable and was closer to 20VDC. No wall wart needed. I believe it has a switching supply with a wide range for the DC input.

I agree. A dimmer controlling an outlet is a bad idea and against the electrical code. One wrong load connected and you may have sparks or failure of the device or connected device.

Step 4. The LED on the side of the EZICOMM should flash a few times if it is communicating with the EZIO8SA and setting the EZICOMM. The network style connector on the ISY994i,EZICOMM and EZIO8SA all are serial signals not the normally used network signals. You normally find on a RJ45 jack. When you have the EZICOMM connected to the PC with DockLight. You can use the PLM.ptp file to see if the EZICOMM will respond properly. The EZIO8SA uses a PLM or EZICOMM. To be used in the system. The Smartenit program needs it own interface to run. So you need a PLM or EZICOMM on the EZIO8SA and another one on the PC. So you need two PLM units. One for the PC and another for the EZIO8SA. With no PLM on the EZIO8SA but on the PC so the utility runs. It can open the program but will not connect with an EZIO8SA with no attached PLM or EZICOMM. Does the LED on the EZICOMM flash when you start up the connected EZIO8SA flash a few times? That should show if the two units are communicating and should be setting the EZICOMM to report it is a 07 04 module and not the default 03 2A. Are you still getting the messages you posted in a previous log file. Where it tried to add the module and got many communications listed. Normally I would expect the unsupported device would show up quickly if the device was not in the ISY list of known devices. Not the whole sequence of commands before calling the unsupported device. Have you tried connecting the EZIO8SA to the EZICOMM and letting it initialize? Then connecting the EZICOMM to the PC and seeing what the 02 73 command reports? With out resetting it first.

I checked my notes and Developers Guide. I have a correction. With the EZCOMM programed by the EZIO8SA. The 02 60 command will still return the 03 2A with the 02 60 command but to the outside world. Like the ISY994i it should report it is a 07 04. If programmed by the EZIO8SA the command 02 73 should report a 80 if it was programmed by the EZIO8SA. On mine at power up of the EZIO8SA. It sets the Host Category to 07 04. Turns off the Automatic LED control and Local Set button linking, turns the Set LED off, turns the Set LED on, turns back on the Automatic LED control and leaves the Local set button linking off. When turned on. The LED on the side of the EZCOMM should flash off and back on if the EZIO8SA is programming it. Another clue would be a programmed EZCOMM reporting a 80 with the 02 73 command if it was programmed or a 00 if not. In your Hyperterminal showing @@@@@. The PLM uses HEX for messaging. If you are sending ASCII that maybe the reason. The preset DockLight ptp file is set to send HEX.

The Smartenit program uses its own connected interface. PLM both 2412S and 2413S. May also use a 2412U or 2413U that I never tried. The older 2414S PLC or maybe the 2414U USB PLC. The PLC also needs the SDM3-308 Smarthome Device Manager. SDM3-308 was in the utilities download package. Maybe too old for Windows 10. Their EZServe or EZICOMM. With the EZIO8SA it still needs its own PLM or EZICOMM and the program needs it own interface. So you need a interface separately for the program to access the EZIO8SA. Your utility display shows not connected so you can't do anything with the EZIO8SA. I believe since it has no interface connected to the EZIO8SA and the interface is being used by the Utility. Your PLM.ptp display. 02 60 Get IM Info. 1E 7F 33 6 digit Insteon ID. Category 03 PLM. Subcategory 2A (I think id is a Smartenit id). 9B firmware version. 06 ACK command processed correctly. You may want to run the PLM.ptp on the EZCOMM after you have it initialized by the EZIO8SA and not reset. The 02 60 Get IM Info results should now show the category and subcategory for the EZIO8SA and not the PLM data.

Yes. UDI sells a replacement. My first one was a 5V 500Ma. The ISY994i has wide input voltage range. 5V to 30V 1 or more amps. 5.5 mm barrel and a 2.2 mm center pin. Many here have used 12V. 1 or 2 amp just fine. UDI presently is selling a 12V 2 Amp in their sales site. Near the bottom of the page. https://www.universal-devices.com/store/

I would also suspect a label changed. Even the original in the FCC Database shows it is Dual-Band. I do know their where a few users manuals over the 2487S documentation. To my earlier post. The 1600k you read on Red and Black sounds like the relay contacts where stuck shut and after tapping the readings are more like I would expect.

The 2487S also has a higher line voltage range of 120VAC to 277VAC and a higher output current rating. It maybe larger to accommodate the heavier relay for the output. You probably reading through some of the electronics. Though it will be interesting to see if it works properly.

The Green parts are small coils not caps. The beeper already covered. Does it go on and off when the relay clicks. If it is always on then the information below may help. If it goes on and off then I would suspect things like the three electrolytic capacitors. If you have access to a meter. With it disconnected from the house wiring. The resistance between the Black Line and Red Output wires should be very high. If it is low the relay might have stuck contacts. I don't think the module has a snubber across the relay contacts to protect it from possible spikes from the fluorescent light. Not too hard but give the relay a firm mechanical tap and see if it temporarily works again.

Techman has a very good idea. If you see more than one command. Then the I/OLinc maybe fine and just following orders. If it is not being sent more than one command. You can see if the opener works correctly. By tapping the set button on the side. It should toggle the relay on and off. Not sure if you opener normally uses a pule from a relay. My though would be C7. My V 1.0 had a 10uF/25V. A V 1.8 10uF/50V laying sideways as it was too large to sit in the solder holes. My V 2.3 220uF/50V also mounted sideways. 25V is low as the supply is around 20V. 10uF maybe low as it has to supply all the current when the relay turned on. Maybe possible if the cap is going bad. The relay my double pulse. I don't think they where a capacitor designed for a switching power supply also. I have a list of all of the caps in them if you are interested.

Glad you got it working again. Since it is power line only. It just could have been line garbage causing it to have some bad information in it. That your actions corrected. It has a switching power supply in it and there where a few different capacitors used. Keeping an eye on it may show it is fine or the problem happens again.

Can you describe the connections? Like the sensor is connected to the sensor input of the I/OLinc, the relay output from the I/OLinc is triggering the gates opener. Relay set to the default continuous or has a momentary on time.

Not correct. The Smartenit, the one in the PLM box or the home made cable. Only carry three connections. I got the feeling many PLM users didn't find the included cable in the boxes cardboard cradle holding the PLM. All of mine had a cable in the box's cardboard cradle. That Smarthome didn't mark on the cradle or add in the Quick Start Sheet. The one in your link carries all the 8 connections and does not connect the correct needed signal pins. May also connect the two not used but available for other uses TTL connections. In the 2413S to something that TTL signals should not be connected too. If you go with the Star Tech. Only use the three connections in the how to threads and make sure none of the other wires are connected and they are insulated so they touch nothing else. Due to the PLM situation. It is possible some users are putting their 2412S PLM back in use. There where two major versions. The older had a 417 link database and you could fill it quite easily. The later had a ~ 2000 link database and on a ISY99i anymore than ~800 links would sometimes start missing link records. I suspect it may have been the speed of the EEPROM and the way the database has to be addressed. Also the 2412S has a unregulated +12VDC (around 19.5VDC) 400mA output. Could run an ISY99i and ISY994i through the serial cable.

Where you using the A10/X0 add on firmware? Wiki indicates. "Using the A10/X10 module A10 and X10 devices can be added to the node tree." Yes the 2448A7 wireless interface, is strictly Insteon RF signaling. So you would loose X10.

If you left the older Insteon devices and they still can control themselves. I believe a remove PLM command goes out and removes the PLM addresses from all the module. So they are not trying to communicate wit a now gone PLM.

If the power supply is starting to go bad. It can cause all kinds of issues. I have had a few fail myself. Not all on one controller but over my ISY26 to ISY99i and then the ISY994i. One of mine was working maybe slightly flaky and then I did a power reset. It never came back up. Even the power On LED was flashing along with the LED on the supply itself. Take a wide range of voltages 5V to 30V. 2.1mm center pin 5.5 mm barrel. UDI sells a replacement of 12V 2A last time I looked. Some of mine where 5V 500mA.

Since almost all presently available X10 devices are strictly receive only. They have no power line transmitter to even reply to a interrogation if it was available.

From what I have seen. They purchased the base 2412 and then 2413 PLM base units and added their own custom daughter board to them. I have a few of their modules and they are on the 2412 boards and case. Along with their custom Daughter Board. Then when they started having issues with the 2413 boards power supplies and this is noted in their Forums. Just like us. They went back to the purchase of 2412 boards assemblies made just for them. My guess is they are also out of everything for the same reason we are. Company status and if the new owners decide what is going the be made again. The parent company is Compacta and you may see that name in the some of the ISY Devices Lists. The older name was SimpleHomeNet and they changed the name to Smartenit.

The 5010V Lot4R is also internet things enabled and is only 4 outputs as previously pointed out. So it will not work for an EZEye digital or analog output. https://docs.smartenit.com/iot4r/iot4r_quick-start.pdf If you are not using the analog output on the EZEye its digital output would probably interface with many other dry contact input devices. Like an I/OLinc or external input on an Insteon Open Closed Sensor. Both would need the external 12 volt supply to power the EZEye module. I have an EZEye coming and may have some more information in maybe a week. As the instruction sheet is confusing between the needed power 8-20VDC and its output type and possible voltage restrictions. I know the I/OLinc has a 5 volt Sensor voltage and if the EZEye has a Dry contact relay or open collector output. It should work. The open closed sensor maybe too low as it is a battery voltage run unit.

You may want to look at the 1011A EZEye sales page on the resource tab. For the manual and its needs. It has four wire connections. +8 to 20VDC,Analog Output,Digital Output and Ground. Has a pot to adjust sensitivity. It uses 8VDC to 20VDC to run but says +12VDC in the EZEye manual. The other SimpleHomeNet and Smartenit modules have a +12V output. The manual indicates a wall wart 12V supply is needed for the EZIO2x4 as it can't supply enough current on its I/O Connectors. Some of the other models do have a +12VDC on their I/O Connectors. The digital and analog outputs are independent so either one can be used or both can. I have some of the manuals for their products. As I had trouble finding the older manuals for previous models. Let me know if you need any. https://smartenit.com/shop/ezeye/

I found the installation information on the up again Insteon support web site. It did not say anything about changing the 2450 I/OLinc from its default continuous relay output.