Brian H

The PRO ISY99i will have the added choices to turn off automatic updates to modules and RF modules. So you can do them individually. Also has a larger allowed database size so more addresses can be used. Though that may not be an X10 also sized database. I have not seen anything on a Micro SD card in any ISY99i but they do have an adapter in some SD card kits or separate purchase. To let you use a Micro SD card in a full sized SD card slot.

I would definitely check the model number of both units. As the article mentioned the ISY99i had no SD card slot while newer units had an SD card slot. The ISY99i used an SD card while the ISY994i a Micro SD card. So if the second unit is a ISY994i the ISY99i SD card will not fit. Here is the data on the ISY99i replacement of the SD card. https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:Replacing/Formatting_an_SD_Card The modules are in the unit itself and referenced to the units UUID number. I don't think you can transfer the modules. By moving the SD card unit to unit or using a backup file from the original unit.

The ISY994i was also discontinued early this year. Modules where discontinued 06/01/2023 as was free support from UDI. https://www.universal-devices.com/byebye994/ Your 2412S PLM will not work with an eisy. As it is power line only and has unregulated +12 volts on the serial cable along with being serial. Depending on its hardware revision. Small link database of 417 or large link database of >2000 that an ISY994i had trouble with ~800 and above. The eisy uses a USB connection. They do sell a USB to serial kit for a 2413S. I don't see X10 listed on it sales page. https://www.universal-devices.com/product/eisy-home/ From what I have read here. You can use an ISY994i backup file into an eisy. If it is a specific firmware revision. That definitely will not be in an old ISY99i that discontinued firmware at 3.3.10.

One thing I forgot and may have had a effect on this. You had to use the My Account choice on their site. To purchase and manage Modules. The old Modules choice in the Administrative Console no longer worked. I just signed in to My Account and could see what each of their products I own and had for modules in that unit. From my ISY26 to both of my ISY994i and ISY99i. https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Main_Page#Add-On/Optional_Modules_for_the_ISY-994i

The ISY994i was discontinued earlier this year. As of 06/01/2023. Purchase modules for a ISY994i was discontinued. Probably why you are getting the error. https://www.universal-devices.com/finalbye994/

My bad. It was a typo. 2457D2 is the one I tried to post about. That the Range Extender is built on.

The V2.6 2434 Access Points are built using the same main board as our 2413S PLM and suffer the same bad capacitor problems we see in the 2413S. I had a pair go bad (No LED or 4 Tap Tests) and rebuilding them with the same information as the 2413S. Made both of them functional again. Not sure if the 2992-222 Range Extenders where in the thread but they also will do a 4 Tap Test and couple signals. By RF and power lines. The 2447D2 Lamplinc is what the Range Extender is built with. Just the dimming circuit removed and it has the same FCC database number.

You may want to look at the 2413U's part number. There was a 2413U and 2413S PLM with the Subcategory used by HouseLinc that was not the same as the one used by the other versions. HouseLinc checked for the different Subcategory ID before it would run. This was the purchased HouseLinc and not the later released free version. You may want to reach out to Insteon Support as a new 2413U should not be reporting it is a special HouseLinc PLM. Though I believe they both work the same just a different ID. The part number would have an H added to it. Like 2413UH for USB or 2413SH for serial port. Though a factory programming error in theory could have the H subcategory and it had a standard part number.

All the 2413S PLM units are Dual Band. Even my V1.0 that needed fly wire changes to the power supply to even be sold. The 2412S was the power line only serial PLM.

One thing to check with USB power. To get the back cover on. They sold a USB charger and a 90 degree connector on the cable. There where some that got a 90 degree style cable but it didn't fit. It seems there are two variations. Cable up or down exiting the connector.

Power supplies going bad is a problem. I have had as others here also have had. With success of working again with the new supply. My ISY994i was not too reliable. When I rebooted it the LEDs flashed on and off as the supply tried to keep the ISY994i running. A replacement corrected the issue. UDI sold a 12V 2A supply as a spare part.

If you have any of the older power line only modules. They are I1 and it takes eight power line messages and acknowledgments to change one eight bit address in a module. The hard drives power supply could effect power line communications. I have a LED TV that has a large AC rated capacitor across the power line to eliminate its internal power supply noise from the line. Works well but also sucks up a large part of signals on the line as noise. X10 (frequencies are close with Insteon) XPPF filter on the TV. Also have a Filterlinc on my UPS and another one entertainment system.

You may also want to check your firmware and if real old. Update to the latest released for the now discontinued ISY994i. The needed Z Wave boards for the ISY994i are also gone but sometimes one shows up on a site like Ebay.

The original privately owned management sold to Richardson Capital Partners. Then Richardson Capital Partners did shut down everything abruptly. Former employees and management has restarted the Insteon line and more items are becoming available now. The 2466SW and 2466DW where power line only and discontinued years ago. The 2477D and 2477S should be fine for an ISY994i. They are also Dual Band so you also get RF communications over just the power line. You may want to check the physical dimensions as I believe the 2477S has a larger rated capacity and maybe thicker with the heavier internal relay and power lead gauge.

Was the older PLM a 2413S and the replacement a new 2413S? If the old one was a 2412S then it was power line only and slower link memory. Along with also powering the ISY994i

No I have not seen such an adapter. The connector on the 2413U is the square B style connector. Usually for devices connected to the USB A style controller as the B does not have any +5 volts needed to run a active USB electronic device. As the controller rectangular connector can supply usually up to 1A of +5v and it is negotiated by the devices at discovery.

If you are trying to connect to an ISY994i and a USB 2413U PLM. You need a USB to Serial port adapter. Probably wired strictly to only use the three serial signals on the ISY994i RJ45 style serial connector.

Trying a working power supply sounds like a good test. We have seen (including myself) the power supplies used by the ISY994i failing and a replacement correcting things. In my case it was working poorly and when power cycled didn't have enough power to restart.

I have also seen the Reverse Trigger and the 3:00AM query. Sometimes trigger it to open a garage door.

It will not work. As your assembly is doing. The RJ45 serial connector on the PLM is not the standard serial port signals found on the USB to serial adapter.

All flashing RED. Does sound like power line noise. As pointed out. I too would recommend you check for new or moved electronics. Unplugging devices you suspect are the problem. As Off on modern devices keeps the standby power running and the AC input to the device active. Existing devices that didn't cause issues. Can deteriorate and suddenly start making problems. In my X10 use days. I saw a cheap phone charger. Putting a very strong noise on the power lines. At the X10 line frequency of 120KHz. Killing a system completely.

V2.3 Had the Fujucon TY caps for C7 and C13. TI MAX232EI serial chip 2.4 and 2.5 have the same TY caps and MAX232EI. With a new daughter board with a protective network on the two serial signals to the outside world. Have not see a V2.6 so I can't say about any other changes.

Sounds correct. Both new production 2413 PLM's have the same base board electronics. With a different interface to the outside world. Both models should have the same power supply capacitors. The 2413S has a new daughter board. With a better serial chip with better ESD protection and a protective network on the two external serial signals. One will have a subcategory ID for a serial and a different subcategory ID for the USB. If you are going a long distance. I am not sure how you can use USB if the distance is over the USB specification distance.

I have had no ISY994i problems. Except power supplies going bad. Since the ISY994i has a fairly big voltage range. It was easy to get it back in complete working condition. If you are wanting to use the new I3 modules. The ISY994i will not support them as no new firmware is going to happen. The eisy and Polisy have later firmware that will support I3.

The 2450 I/OLink has the same switching power supply IC as the 2413 PLM. I have an older one with small caps and a few later ones where Smartlabs tried a bigger cap but it still was not rated for a switching supply. Can not say about the very latest ones. The surge suppressor warning maybe some have noise suppression components. The 2450 is power line only and that type of unit would suck up the Insteon Power Line Commands. Greatly reducing the distance it could receive commands.