Brian H

Good to see you found the problem and a way to correct it. Also shows the new PLM also still will receive X10. Coming from an X10 start. Power line noise, phase coupling and signal suckers. Was a common issue for us.

None of the Insteon modules including the PLM. Can be flashed by the end user. Old Smarthome did factory reprogram some like the update the SignaLinc RF to the Access points. Modules I have do have a 5 pin firmware programming connector. Takes access to a programmer for the controller chip and the source code. They never have released the code as far as I have ever experienced. Most of the modules have a Line connection to the logic supply so you risk a nasty shock or worse! The PLM has two firmware connectors. As the PLM has a main controller and a second one for the RF controller. Unless the present Insteon Co. Wanted to do a reprogramming maybe by a return, program, ship back to the customer. Probably for a fee. It most likely would not be possible.

The passive X10 SignaLinc device. That is hard wired between the two Lines? I have seen posts where the capacitor has failed and the coupler is not working. In the 2406H. https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/28722-anyone-dissect-a-2406h-phase-coupler/ . The X10 4816H used a 18uH coil and a .1uF capacitor. As there where two. 4816H was the X10 and 2406H was the Insteon X10 signals are close enough to the Insteon signals. Both would usually work fine. You can still find the X10 4816H on sites like Ebay. If IndyMike thinks it would help your X10 issue.

That sounds like the way my 2450 acts when in Momentary Mode. When I did some tests.

9E has been the standard firmware from back at least to V2.1. Hardware changes did happen. Like changing C7 and C13 to one made for switching power supplies. Serial chip on the serial daughter board to one with a better ESD rating. Now a redesigned serial daughter board. With some added surge protection on the two serial signals. My ISY994I with 9E in the PLM. No problem with sending or receiving X10 and showing in the Event Viewer.

If they changed the X10 commands in firmware. It should have caused a new firmware version number. I don't use an eisy. In an ISY994i. It can be found in the Administrative Console, Diagnostics, PLM Info/Status. Should give you the six digit Insteon ID number, firmware revision (mine is 9E), connected if being used by the controller. I seriously doubt they removed the received X10 message from the PLM to the controller and left the transmit X10 message from the controller to the PLM. If you use the Insteon Forums. You could also ask there. https://forum.insteon.com/forum. Or there own support address https://www.insteon.com/support Over the years. I have seen occasionally an X10 received problem with the PLM. Most times it was the hardware in the PLM having issues.

Thank you for the updates on the All On commands. Still being in some modules. I saw your posts on the Insteon Forums. Lets hope they will correct the removal of that command. I suspect some information was carried over from the old management and just make more with the same firmware.

Your new PLM is a 2413U or a 2413S with their USB to serial adapter? Wired with the special pin outs for the 2413S? Do you have a screen that gives you the firmware version in the PLM by chance? Did you have the optional A10/X10 module add on in the ISY994i? I don't have an eisy but have seen it used the USB interface and didn't use a serial port directly. I don't think Insteon changed anything in the latest 2413 PLM to remove X10 reception.

JV Digital Engineering. Still has their XTB-F15+. 15 Amp filters in limited stock. It is a X10 filter but maybe OK as Insteon and X10 power line signals are not that far from each other frequency wise.

Can't say about the portal. Factory Reset. https://wiki.universal-devices.com/Resetting_Your_ISY

The 2450 also uses the same switching power supply chip and poorly chosen capacitor model and capacity. I have seen a 10uF/25V in a V1.0 for C7. A 10uF/50V in a V1.8 and a 220uF/50V in a V2.3. At least in the ones I looked at. I don't know if they ever woke up and used a capacitor made for switching supplies. So after many years of working. It is possible it may eventually get flaky.

You can not use a 2413U on an ISY994i. The ISY994i has no USB jacks for the converters USB connection. Also the USB jack is the B type. On a 2413U. I don't believe the power pin on the B jack has an optional +voltage connection. To supply power to the USB plug to power a converter. Most USB to serial adapters have the A style USB connector. If you want to use the 2413S on your eisy. It is best to use the one sold by UDI for that application. As it routes the three serial connections on the 2431S PLM to the eisy correctly and does not have a chance to get the unique. RJ45 style jack on the 2413S's serial pins incorrectly wired. https://www.universal-devices.com/product/serial-plm-kit/

New 2413U USB PLM. 2413S Serial PLM with the adapter cable. Possibly from the ISY994i setup. If it is the reused 2413S PLM. How old is it and can you see the revision number on the back sticker?

The 4 tap tests will also test the Access Points. LED flashing patterns will give you. Communicating and if on the same or opposite phase. Patterns will be determined by the Access Points revision. White in V1 or red/green V2. They should also show on any dual band modules LED if they are receiving the access points 4 tap test messages. The 2486 is a power line only keypad. So it will not receive any motion sensor messages as they are Insteon RF commands.

Unless it has been updated. The XPPF maybe rated at 5A but the internal coils get very hot when tested on a 4 amp incandescent bulb. So some care maybe needed. The FilterLinc may still be available. https://shop.insteon.com/products/powerline-noise-filter I sure does sound like the charger is a signal sucker. I have seen other reports of such things having a nice AC rated capacitor across the power lines for internal noise suppression but it also kills power line signals.

If the 2443 Access Point is on the same circuit. It may not matter too much but in the pass through outlet it would definitely help. The former Smarthome recommended a Access Point in the front outlet. For better results as the I/OLinc is a power line only device. One thing to check. On the back of the Access Point look at the revision number. If it is any V2 revision. They are built on the same main board as our 2413S PLM. Subject to the same capacitor issues we see in the 2413S. Chargers and some garage door opener models are known for power line communications issues. Though depends on the charger or opener itself.

I had a similar problem with a siren module. Set it on the main entry but it didn't do what I wanted. Until I set it in the scene it was member of. Too my desired need.

Have you tried the Event Viewer in level 3. When you try the changes in that Scene? It will show the commands being sent and the responses from the module you are trying to modify. That may give you some helpful information. On did the changes actually get there and where accepted. If the module you are trying to change the scene in. Is one of the older model modules. Some needed a power cycle of the module you changed to have the changes take place.

Double check or try a different power supply. They do have a reputation for failing or getting flaky.

The cable between the XTB-IIR and the WGL V572. Maybe a phone style cable or a straight through cable. As I have two different versions of the WGL. Some used the phone style wired cable and the other one the straight trough wired cable. Wrong cable didn't seem to hurt anything. It just didn't work.

The XTB-IIR near the electrical panel is a good place for it. My ISY994i with 2413S PLM is on the other end of the house. Once the X10 signal reaches the XTB-IIR. The X10 signals in my home are all above ~ 1V X10 signals. Bonus is my WGL V572 all house code X10 RF receiver into the TW523 RJ13 port. On the side. Also gives me a good signal all over the house. As my Insteon devices are old enough to have an added X10 address in them.

That does sound correct. The XTB-IIR has a simulated X10 TW523 interface on the side connector. RJ13 jack sounds correct. I have mine connected to an all house code X10 RF receiver. That normally used a TW523 interface.

A 6 Position 6 Conductor connector. With RJ13 being a 6 Position 6 Conductor connection with the outer pair of conductors unused. When using the X10 TW523 power line interface connections. A 8 Position 8 Conductor connector is the RJ45 style connector. Typically used in networking but customized by Smarthome for their PLM, PLC and other interfaces. To clarify. The XTB-IIR is an excellent X10 repeater phase coupler. The connector on the side is for a simulated X10 TW523 power line interface. I am using mine to connect to an all house code X10 RF receiver.

Where did you see an RJ-13 used? The PLM both 2412S and 2413S used an RJ-45 style 8 pin connector. The 2414S PLC also has a RJ-45 style connector.The signals on the RJ-45 normally found on a network are not what they are in a PLM. They are serial signals on three wires. The others varied as the older 2412S also had a unregulated +12VDC (~18VDC) on it and could power an ISY994i or older ISY99i. While the 2413S has some pins being TTL level signals. Smarthome to me. Liked to keep parts the same over many devices. I have real ancient X10 only controller modules with the same RJ-45 I/O just completely different functions. Did more looking and may have found for the possible confusion.. The eisy uses a USB connection to a 2413U. You can use a 2413S with their USB to serial adapter. https://www.universal-devices.com/product/serial-plm-kit/ If you have a series 300 ZWave board and upgraded to the ones developed for the newer series 500 board. I suspect that may have caused your problem.

There was a very basic test program we had in the now defunct developers group (was to test their developers group set of devices) and BusyRat gave us one in the old Insteon section of the Smarthome forums. Both only would send and receive Insteon commands to modules we had. So we could see things like dumping the link database one entry at a time and you needed the commands (hex string sent and received by the PLM) in the Insteon developer guide (now found on some sites). Used a serial port on the computer or sometimes a USB to serial converter. In my tests the BusyRat program only did the low comm port numbers and the developers one (for DockLight Scripting free evaluation version) was hard coded to a serial port ID though you could change it but not store the new com port as the DocLight Evaluation version was restricted. Though it could be modified by a plain no special features text editor and carefully reading the setup file. Can you test one maybe but it would not be too easy. Unless someone here has one they used and I don't know about it. The hardware revision on the back may give you a clue. As some improvements where made in later revisions.