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On programs that may be running or need to run after a reboot I have a program which is enabled to run at startup. That program is called Reboot Email. When the ISY reboots that program will run and send me an email. If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Set Program 'Reboot Email' To Run At Startup Wait 30 seconds Send Notification to 'To Me' Wait 30 seconds Run Program 'Reboot Email' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Then the program waits 30 seconds then turns false. I then insert that program into the conditions of any programs needing to evaluate and run such as: If Program 'Reboot Email' is False And From 3:20:00PM To 6:20:00PM (same day) Then Set 'Devices / Gar Main Lite' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') This program becomes the trigger when the ISY reboots and triggers the program into action if the schedule is correct. During normal daily operation the schedule is the trigger because the program is always false – unless the ISY is rebooting. As far as programs you want to run to catch up, you can check the “Catch up schedules at Restart†button. The thing you have to be careful about with that is there may be some programs you do not want to catch up on…like a coffee maker program or electric blanket schedule for the bed etc. so personally speaking for myself, that is why I unchecked “Catch up schedules at Restart†and started using the Reboot Email program as a trigger. Tim

Hello Joe, Along with Lee's comments I might add that after a reboot the ISY sets programs either true or false based on their conditions, it doesn't actually run the programs so the Then and Else do not execute. In order for the program to run you either need some kind of trigger in the program that will make it run after reboot or set the program to Run at startup. If you have a lot of programs that require running after reboot you might consider using a trigger as it will probably be easier on you as well as the ISY. Tim

I just read this post about a bug in Java 1.7, Michel warns about 1.7 in the last post. http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=7885&p=59962&hilit=java#p59962 Hopefully that is the problem.... Tim

Hi wrj0, Thanks for the reply. The stations I have been tapped into for the last couple of years have always offered all rain and wind data (at least for the last 2 or so years), pretty much everything except for light data. It has just been this last week that I have noticed no rain data from all of the stations in and around my area. We haven't had rain for 2+ months so this is the first real rainfall since Nov. Thanks, Tim

Like JMC I also subscribe to KBAB and KLHM and the rain data has disappeared. So I started checking other sites. I checked all sites within 36 miles, none had rain data. 76 miles away at truckee was the first site I came to that has some rain data which showed up in ISY. So its not a problem with ISY, it appears it is a weatherbug thing, but what could be the reason? Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks, Tim

Michel, I noticed in the network resources that when you press the bar to re-order the list of resources that you lose the ability to Test any resources. Pressing Reload will then allow for testing. It is only after re-ordering that the Test function quits. Thanks, Tim 3.1.17

Hi Michel, I finally figured out the config. for adding gmail to ISY and it does work perfectly using From* for emails. I wont be able to test the text messages till tomorrow. If there is a problem I will report. Thanks very much, Tim

kevkmartin, So if the garage door open is plugged into the SL then you only open and close the garage door via ISY? Or are you saying that the I/O Linc is plugged int the SL and the garage door opener is powered all the time so your wall mounted opener switch and car remote door openers work as usual? wrj0, Thanks for verifing its not a local problem just with me. Thanks, Tim

Hi Michel, It has always been blank. With the email address only or :my_email_address works fine, anything ahead of the ":" breaks it. Thanks, Tim

Hi Michel, Thanks, but that didn't work either (just the first test after saving produced an email). Tim

Hi Michel, Setting first name last name as it is set up in Outlook yields the same results. First time test after saving always sends email, no more after that. However text messages never send, first time after saving or not. Thanks, Tim

Hi Michel, So far everything I have tested has worked perfectly except for the new "Send user friendly From (last name/first name) in Notifications." It only worked only for the first email sent. Test button presses after the first press resulted in Mail Server Failure [from timed out]. I increased the timeout to 2 seconds, again the test button worked only one time, after that the same error occured. Turns out any time the Save button is pressed to save any changes, the test button will work only 1 time then the errors start. Confirmed the 1 test email was sent and received. Text message test resulted in no text message sent and no error on the first test button press, any test after the first did result in error message and no text sent. Results were the same from running a program, after a smtp save a program would send an email only once. Just to make sure I have the SMTP settings proper: SMTP Server: smtp.comcast.net User id: myemailaddress@comcast.net From: My House:myemailaddress@comcast.net SMTP Port: 587 Password: XXXXX Timeout: 1,000ms Is this an issue with comcast? I have not had any issues with text or emailing before or after the upgrade to 3.1.17 and if I delete "From" my text and emails go back to working fine. As a side note, it is nice to see an email come in with my own customized name instead of just by ho hum email address! Thanks, Tim

Hello Traditore, Under the schedule section, under the pull down button that says "Time Is" is a check box that says "Daily." Un-Check that box and the calendar will appear. Tim

Hi Lee, Sorry, I do not follow. The program is not being reevaluated when the value of the variable changes. The program will only turn true when the status of the device is On and turn false when the status of the device is Off. Tim

Hi Andy, Yes you could. But I found the variable increments +1 immediately each time the program turns true, then it starts the 1 minute repeat routine. Since the OP is trying to track operation time I thought the premature increment by 1 might throw his stats off. However if there are times when the status of his device will be turned on for less than 1 minute at a time then the program I listed will not track those moments in which case the OP might prefer to delete the wait as you suggested. Tim

Hi jpoje, The hihats will always turn on since they are the load connected to the Icon switch. You could do a program such as: If Control 'Icon Switch' is Switched Fast Off Then Wait 2 seconds Set Appliancelinc On Else You will have to put a wait in before turning on the appliancelinc since the device is linked to the Icon and in effect when you Fast Off the switch you are turning the appliancelinc off as well, so the wait will have to be long enough for the comm. to stop from the Off command. Tim

Hello telljcl, This may do what you are looking for. Set up a variable and include it in the program below. Every 1 minute the device is On the variable will increase by 1. If Status 'Your Device' is On Then Repeat Every 0 seconds Wait 1 minute $Your var. name += 1 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Tim

That is strange...after factory resetting the SL did you run a restore in the ISY for that device? Do you have two access points set up on opposite legs(I know you must have at least 1 or a dual band plm in order for the MS signals to be received)? I personally believe (based on my observations in my home) that a phase coupler mounted at the service panel is a great idea. But there are many here who do not have one and have great success without one. Tim

oberkc, Sorry you beat me to it.... Tim

Hello poormonkey, I assume from your post and program example that the ms is not directly linked to the kitchen lights. I am also assuming the kitchen light or lights are powered by a Switchlinc or similar Insteon switching device. One way to disable the ms program you have listed is to create a new program which looks for the kitchen lights being turned of locally such as: Kitchen Lights Manual Off: If Control 'Kitchen Lights' is Switched Off Then Wait 5 minutes Run Program 'Kitchen Lights Manual Off' Else Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') So when you manually turn off the kitchen lights then program Kitchen Lights Manual Off turns true for 5 minutes then turns false. Next, in your example program add: If Control 'Motion Sensor-Sensor' is switched On And Status 'Kitchen' is Off And Program 'Kitchen Lights Manual Off' is False Then Set 'Kitchen' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Now when you locally turn off the kitchen lights the first program turns true for 5 minutes which will prevent the second program from running as you pass by the ms on your way to bed. After 5 minutes the first program turns false which will allow the second program to run true when it is triggered by the ms. Tim

Yeah, I am sure you could use a cap. I remember seeing those sold on eBay. I used the x10 pro coupler http://www.ebay.com/itm/X10-PRO-Signal-Bridge-Passive-Phase-Coupler-XPCP-/380345447874?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588e5af5c2, I had a couple from back when you could get them for 5 or 10 bucks a piece on eBay. I just mounted it in a single gang box. Cut a couple of extension cord plugs off and wired the plugs to the coupler. It worked sweet for a long time. Then cai came along and didn't need it or the SL on the ups any more.

I did run a couple of SL relays (non dual band) on a ups with a passive coupler coupling the battery back up side of the ups and the wall outlet where the ups was plugged in for about a year with no comm. failures. I don't remember trying the plm on the ups however. Tim

Hello remedy1234, The easiest way, and cheapest is as andyf0 suggested. Create a program such as: Reboot Email: If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Set Program 'Reboot Email' To Run At Startup Wait 1 minute Send Notification to 'remedy1234' Run Program 'Reboot Email' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Manually run this program once, it will automatically set itself to run each time at startup. This program will not alert you when the power fails but it will email you when power is restored and the ISY reboots. In order for the ISY to alert you to a power failure it needs some extra support equipment. Getting an alert when power fails is a bit more tricky, and expensive but sure it can be done. I am using CAI's WebControl board (http://www.cainetworks.com/products/webcontrol/webcontrol-faq.html) and io_guy's WCLink program (http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=6612) and a wall-wart to monitor the line voltage. I get an email if the voltage is too high or too low. In my case I use the too high (over 130 volts) and too low (which is less than 100 volts) as trip points to alert me as well has shut off voltage sensitive equipment. You could have it just email when the voltage was 0 if you wanted. In order for this to work the ISY, network router, internet modem and the WebControl board need to be on a power backup supply (UPS). It could also be accomplished probably a dozen other ways too. One idea would be using an I/O Linc (http://www.smarthome.com/2450/IOLinc-INSTEON-Low-Voltage-Contact-Closure-Interface-1-In-1-Out-/p.aspx) and 120v relay and a passive coupler (http://www.smarthome.com/4815X/X10-XPCP-X10-Passive-Signal-Coupler/p.aspx) and also a UPS. The ISY and I/O Linc and one side of the passive coupler would be on the UPS. The relay coil and the other side of the passive coupler would be wired to another (non UPS) 120v tap. One set of the relay contacts would wire to the I/O Linc. I would think, next to the reboot email program route that this might be the next simplest but probably not the cheapest route. Tim

Todd, Ah yes, the more you explain the more it jars my memories of a couple of years ago going thru similar issues with the motion sensors. I tried similar avenues, variables weren’t available back then, with some success, but spotty. I unfortunately don’t have any answers for you. Hopefully UDI can help you out. Sorry I couldn’t. Tim

Lee, good point. I had forgotten that when the motion sent the Off it would turn the lights back off...but in my situation I wanted that anyway. But I thought the OP stated the motions send only ON commands so his timer programs will turn off the responders anyway.