Is there a topic how to use ploisy with rasberry pie

[robandcathy1]

I have a gen 3 raspberry pi and am wondering if and how I can use it to run ploisy. A step-by-step instruction would be great if someone wrote it, a link would be just fine but to include how to register and set up, a YouTube video would be better, if not then if I get good instructions and get it working Ill upload one for future use. 

Thanks Rob

[stillwater]

  What I understand from this forum is:

1) "Polisy" is a hardware box sold and supported by UDI that can serve as a co-processor host for node-servers for the ISY-994 controllers. A main focus of current development at UDI is porting the "ISY" controller itself to run on Polisy, obviating the need for the somewhat limited ISY-994 hardware. (Polisy is faster with more memory and a SSD rather than the SD card that has sometimes caused problem on the ISY-994.)

2) So your question is probably where is the guide to running "Polyglot" on the Raspberry PI. Polyglot is the collection of facilities that allows nodeservers to be easily installed and run between a coprocessor (Pi, other machine, or Polisy)  and the ISY-994. 

3) The current version of Polyglot that can run on a Raspberry PI  (or on a Polisy) is called Polyglot 2, often abbreviated as PG2.  I suspect you can find instructions for using this on the forum, though I haven't looked.    But this may not be worth your while, because:

4) Most node server developer effort is now focussed on Polyglot 3 or PG3.   This will only run on Polisy and provides a mechanism for node server developers to charge for the use of their products.   As a result offerings in PG2 may atrophy and PG2 might atrophy as well. 

5) There has also been a Polyglot Cloud that does not require additional hardware on-site with your ISY-994.  For security reasons this is being rewrritten and is not available. 

[lilyoyo1]

2 hours ago, robandcathy1 said:

I have a gen 3 raspberry pi and am wondering if and how I can use it to run ploisy. A step-by-step instruction would be great if someone wrote it, a link would be just fine but to include how to register and set up, a YouTube video would be better, if not then if I get good instructions and get it working Ill upload one for future use. 

Thanks Rob

As stated earlier, this isn't possible since polisy is hardware not software. The "new isy" if you will. 

If you're simply looking to run some nodeservers, you can run polyglot V2 on your Rpi. You can find instructions/videos Here. Just know, it is depracated so  the nodeservers for that has a limited shelf life as oems update and make changes to their APIs

[robandcathy1]

Good to know just kinda hard to swallow price point Thanks for response

[DennisC]

At one time UD was offering owners of ISY a discount. You could ask if the discount is still available.

Edited March 12, 2022 by DennisC
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[MrBill]

11 hours ago, DennisC said:

At one time UD was offering owners of ISY a discount. You could ask if the discount is still available.

There's currently a 20% discount because Polyglot cloud is offline.  Also @robandcathy1 you don't need the "pro" version, the standard version has everything except wifi and bluetooth, and the bluetooth hasn't yet been developed even if the radio exists for it.  $379 - 20% = $303.. and in addition to be a Node server it's a new faster ISY as well.

Edited March 12, 2022 by MrBill

[larryllix]

On 3/10/2022 at 6:51 PM, robandcathy1 said:

I have a gen 3 raspberry pi and am wondering if and how I can use it to run ploisy. A step-by-step instruction would be great if someone wrote it, a link would be just fine but to include how to register and set up, a YouTube video would be better, if not then if I get good instructions and get it working Ill upload one for future use. 

Thanks Rob

Yeah, polyglot-v2 works just fine on a RPi 3. There is an install script on the github website that will do the whole thing for you.
https://github.com/Einstein42/udi-polyglotv2

However I have found with three different installations it sets up some parameters incorrectly and the instructions for the .env parameter override file are incorrectly identified and have caused me a lot of grief over the years. The descriptions of the parameters are wrong and despite complaining they remian incorrect for the last few years.

It appears to install Node server configurations in ISY994 with port 443 while the Polyglot node server expects port 3000. Not sure any more but HTTPS may be disabled in Polyglot and enabled inside the ISY NS configurations. None of my installations have ever functioned out of the box. The status will update and fool you but the controls never have worked.

Here is a .env file with some corrections (in text descriptions) I have discovered after many weeks of hair pulling. Instructions to create it are found in the linked github page above, but I have corrected a few important lines. Biggest problem is many parameters affect two factors and not one as described in the github descriptions.

# Overrides the IP address Polyglot listens on the local machine.
#BIND_IP='192.168.0.163'

# Overrides the IP address Polyglot tells ISY to send node commands
HOST_IP='192.168.0.163'

# Overrides the port Polyglot listens on for its webpage service & ISY control interface.
HOST_PORT='3000'

# Overrides the default mode HTTPS for Polyglot webpage service & ISY control interface.
USE_HTTPS=false

# Username used to login to the ISY.
#ISY_USERNAME='admin'

# Password used to login to the ISY. Careful this is clear text, I wouldn't recommend setting this here.
#ISY_PASSWORD='password'

# ISY IP address. This is automatically discovered on the initial run of Polyglot if you are on the same network. If you have multiple you can update it on the settings page of the frontend, or override it here.
#ISY_HOST='192.168.0.161'

# ISY Port
#ISY_PORT='80'

# ISY HTTPS: True/False This isn't fully tested so beware HTTPS at the moment.
#ISY_HTTPS=false

# MQTT Host is the IP address of the host running a MQTT server. This is built in to Polyglot so you won't need this unless you'd prefer an external MQTT server.
#MQTT_HOST='127.0.0.1'

# MQTT Port is the port used to connect to the MQTT server. Default is 1883
#MQTT_PORT='1883'

# URI to access MongoDB. You might need this if you have an off-box Mongo instance.
#MONGO_URI='mongodb://localhost:27017/'

# To enable debug logging set the NODE_ENV override to 'development'
#NODE_ENV='development'

# To enable Custom SSL Certificates
CUSTOM_SSL=true

# Enable Beta Software Updates
USE_BETA=true

 

Now your Node server configuration in ISY needs to match and has never done so in my installs, so far (yesterday was the latest 24 hours of hair pulling). The red circled parameters need to match what is found in the polygot .env parameters override file (above). You will need to create this file from scratch. It probably doesn't exit and parameters are assumed incorrectly from my script usages.

 

Best of luck. RPi 3 works just fine and may be a good stop-gap until the confusion falls aside and polisy is more reliable.

[robandcathy1]

Good reading Thanks!!!

[lilyoyo1]

9 minutes ago, robandcathy1 said:

Good reading Thanks!!!

Following the video is much easier