Techman Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 Hi everyone, As I mentioned in my update a week ago, our next ‘Lunch with Insteon’ webinar will be this Friday, February 17 at 12pm PT. We hope you will be to join us as we have a lot of exciting information to share. Some of the topics we will be discussing are an overview of Insteon technology, a walkthrough of recent Director app updates, and another new product announcement. If you cannot make it, that’s okay. We will always send out a link to a recording of it on social media later that day. I also wanted to take a second to thank everyone who participated in the two surveys included in my last update. We got a ton of responses and are going through them as we speak. Ken CEO, Insteon Technologies 1
elvisimprsntr Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) Is there a link to register or invitation only? Edited February 14, 2023 by elvisimprsntr
Techman Posted February 14, 2023 Author Posted February 14, 2023 There is a link, but I deleted it a while back. The participation is limited so by now it's probably closed.
elvisimprsntr Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 I asked them in January what their plans were to support Matter, and their response was, "We are aware of the Matter standard." Interpretation, "We have no idea and/or plans."
lilyoyo1 Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, elvisimprsntr said: I asked them in January what their plans were to support Matter, and their response was, "We are aware of the Matter standard." Interpretation, "We have no idea and/or plans." They've stated a few times in the past that their new hub would support Matter
upstatemike Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 I don't see any way for Matter to be incorporated at the protocol level so for Insteon it will always be a hub integration. Since we all use Polisy/Eisy as our Insteon hub and we know it will support Matter, why do we care what Insteon does with Matter? 3
larryllix Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 I don't see any way for Matter to be incorporated at the protocol level so for Insteon it will always be a hub integration. Since we all use Polisy/Eisy as our Insteon hub and we know it will support Matter, why do we care what Insteon does with Matter?Better yet, I wonder when Insteon Tech (IT) is going to support hardwired Ethernet. All UDI products have had Ethernet ports on them for a decade. Maybe RJ45 plugs can be added to IT devices. /sarc off/People..Matter is a new wireless coomunications protocol, not a hardware connection plug.Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk
lilyoyo1 Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 56 minutes ago, larryllix said: Better yet, I wonder when Insteon Tech (IT) is going to support hardwired Ethernet. All UDI products have had Ethernet ports on them for a decade. Maybe RJ45 plugs can be added to IT devices. /sarc off/ People..Matter is a new wireless coomunications protocol, not a hardware connection plug. Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk I'm not understanding your point. Matter is not just wireless but IP based overall. Doesn't matter if it's wireless or hardwired. There's more than 1 way to skin a cat.
MrBill Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 3 hours ago, elvisimprsntr said: I asked them in January what their plans were to support Matter, and their response was, "We are aware of the Matter standard." Interpretation, "We have no idea and/or plans." Interpenetration: "They aren't ready to discuss it publicly". Have you ever noticed that UD is tight lipped on certain topics? The reason is that as soon as Michel puts something out there... even if he knows it will be awhile... people get stuck on the fact and ask "when" continually, then devolve into "this was announced way back in ___, I can't believe it still hasn't happened." Then when the plans shifts slightly and drops A but adds B (which is much better path) people will start in with "but I was counting on A, I bought $$$$ of stuph because you said A and now it's B, if you didn't intend to A then....blah blah blah" 3
MrBill Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, larryllix said: Better yet, I wonder when Insteon Tech (IT) is going to support hardwired Ethernet. All UDI products have had Ethernet ports on them for a decade. Maybe RJ45 plugs can be added to IT devices. /sarc off/ People..Matter is a new wireless coomunications protocol, not a hardware connection plug. I don't understand the technicalities or difference between how the Insteon hub works vs the PLM. I can tell you one thing tho, my son uses Home Assistant with an Insteon hub (No PLM) and it works great. The only connection from the hub to the HA machine is the Ethernet network. The HA Insteon Integration (not to be confused with the HA Universal-devices integration) use the PyInsteon project as its base and supports PLMs 2413U, 2412S, 2448A7 and Hub models 2242 and 2245. He can't use the insteon app anymore because he didn't renew the cloud subscription when Insteon was resuscitated.
larryllix Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 I don't see any way for Matter to be incorporated at the protocol level so for Insteon it will always be a hub integration. Since we all use Polisy/Eisy as our Insteon hub and we know it will support Matter, why do we care what Insteon does with Matter?yup..zinggggg! Wrong level....,( referring to my previous post.) lol.Who cares what Insteon does with Matter? I am not ready to throw away all my I Insteon system so I can buy Matter supported devices and I am not about to throw my PLM away so I can buy a Matter supporting Insteon Hub 3 when I have a UDI smarthub already.Why would Matter mean anything to Insteon. Insteon is also a protocol, the same as Matter.Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk
Techman Posted February 15, 2023 Author Posted February 15, 2023 I kinda doubt that Insteon will support matter, the reason being is that it would take away from the sale of Insteon devices. 1
MrBill Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Techman said: I kinda doubt that Insteon will support matter, the reason being is that it would take away from the sale of Insteon devices. or sell more of them :-]
ShawnW Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 SO.... Did anyone attend ? What was the new Product announcement? Thanks! Shawn 1
MrBill Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, ShawnW said: SO.... Did anyone attend ? What was the new Product announcement? I registered but somehow it didn't get added to my calendar. The new product was i3 Paddle. the link for the replay in their tweet is bad. Edited February 18, 2023 by MrBill
lilyoyo1 Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 1 minute ago, MrBill said: I registered but somehow it didn't get added to my calendar. The new product was i3 Paddle. the link for the replay in their tweet is bad. I love the paddle. It has a really smooth and quiet operation. Guess theyll release the kpl soon.
Bumbershoot Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MrBill said: The new product was i3 Paddle. Ken said that ISY will support the new i3 Paddle, which should be available next week. EDIT: I don't know if this link will work: https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/play/zuI1PTw_DxoCA1r1y097HYR5tkWlneU_PZjitbH2EqpV6ALLpPEb95_c_I1bKiuz9Ob8iBIQs5BNNCmX.P5J_-M_XWF9TSxgQ?startTime=1676663973000&_x_zm_rtaid=OdopTLzVQ4SnCkRoLT9Lnw.1676728532099.b153b0b239f9c5ca527bd3db2549b934&_x_zm_rhtaid=545 Passcode is: VkL0*x?d Edited February 18, 2023 by Bumbershoot
Bumbershoot Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, lilyoyo1 said: I love the paddle. It has a really smooth and quiet operation. Guess theyll release the kpl soon. Like the i3 Dial, the i3 Paddle can be used as either an on/off switch or a dimmer. I hope light almond will be available...
lilyoyo1 Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 30 minutes ago, Bumbershoot said: Like the i3 Dial, the i3 Paddle can be used as either an on/off switch or a dimmer. I hope light almond will be available... I know. I've had all of them since alpha testing
matapan Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Bumbershoot said: Ken said that ISY will support the new i3 Paddle, which should be available next week. EDIT: I don't know if this link will work: https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/play/zuI1PTw_DxoCA1r1y097HYR5tkWlneU_PZjitbH2EqpV6ALLpPEb95_c_I1bKiuz9Ob8iBIQs5BNNCmX.P5J_-M_XWF9TSxgQ?startTime=1676663973000&_x_zm_rtaid=OdopTLzVQ4SnCkRoLT9Lnw.1676728532099.b153b0b239f9c5ca527bd3db2549b934&_x_zm_rhtaid=545 Passcode is: VkL0*x?d Does anyone who attended know when Ken said ISY will support the new I3 paddle, does this refer to ISY994i or just eISY/PoliSY?
matapan Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 On 2/15/2023 at 1:54 PM, Techman said: I kinda doubt that Insteon will support matter, the reason being is that it would take away from the sale of Insteon devices. If you compare the new i3 devices to the existing Zigbee and ZWave offerings available, I doubt that Matter will take away from the sale of Insteon devices. All the ZWave devices I have seen look amateurish in their design. With the Zigbee devices, they seem to fall into two categories: really nice looking ones that have a touch sensitive display and then the really cheap ones. Nothing inbetween.
Bumbershoot Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, matapan said: Does anyone who attended know when Ken said ISY will support the new I3 paddle, does this refer to ISY994i or just eISY/PoliSY? No, he just said that UDI has samples and documentation, and that they intend on supporting it. Nothing about which UDI platform, but since ISY994i is EOL, I doubt they'll support it there.
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