@Javi

Would it be possible to add an "ALL OFF" command to UDM

On rare occasions when I have a battery operated device that has a low battery it triggers an all on event, and I have to go into the Ihe admin console to use the all off command.

You could create a "all off" scene with everything you want turned off as responders.

I must agree with @Guy Lavoie .

@Javi @Guy Lavoie @IndyMike @xlurkr @paulbates @TJF1960

Thank you all for your suggestions. I think the only resolution is an all off command like the one at the bottom of the device tree.

The all on I'm experiencing, which is caused by a low battery condition in a Insteon device(s), and is usually a partial all on. usually in the devices on the same circuit breaker near the battery operated device. The last one was caused by a hidden door sensor which does not report battery state.

The eisy doesn't reflect the state of those devices which turned on. I'm not sure if the partial all on is going through the (USB) PLM or is just seen as a on command / line noise by the surrounding devices

I have too many device nodes to incorporate in a scene. I think I'm eventually going to have to phase out all my Insteon battery devices for Zwave devices which report battery levels.

8 minutes ago, Techman said:

Thank you all for your suggestions. I think the only resolution is an all off command like the one at the bottom of the device tree.

@Techman - on my ISY994 this is the same as setting "My Lighting" to off programmatically. It generates identical commands in the event viewer.

@Techman , I misunderstood the request.

You are trying to send all off to the ISY scene. We do not show this scene in UDM as it would likely cause confusion. The work around used by @IndyMike sends the same command to the ISY Scene.

@IndyMike

In the eisy 6.0.4 firmware "My Lighting" doesn't appear as an option.

It may be a different name like "ISY" or "IoX" depending on when the original file was created or if renamed. Icon should look like a monitor.

@Javi

It's not there, in either UDM or the admin console

My "query all" program which had the "ISY" is now missing the ISY

@Javi @IndyMike

I found it was buried in the my scenes. If i'm not mistaken it used to be in the device list.

1 hour ago, Techman said:

My "query all" program which had the "ISY" is now missing the ISY

@Techman this caught my attention...I ran to check mine and it still shows for my program and I'm on "isy-6.0.4_1" (from https://eisy.local:8443/WEB/sysconfig.txt). But I'm only looking in Java Admin Console. Haven't messed with eisy-ui or UDM in a while and never looked at Programs in those.

Sounds like you found it though and can recreate the program, but you worried me that it might have gotten corrupted in an update.

Last I recall a comment from UD was that it's not needed (the query program), but my concern was that it was originally there to bring battery device status in sync when the query runs. Since it's not included in Polisy or eisy by default...users have to add it back manually if they want it. I wonder if not having it causes any issues. I don't have any Insteon battery devices so not too concerned with it.

@Geddy

What was confusing is that the "ISY"used to show up in the device tree. Now the only way to access is via a program which lists the "ISY" in the list of scenes. It no longer appears in the device tree.

I still run the query all program at 3 am, and created another program which set the ISY off in the event of an all on.

3 minutes ago, Techman said:

Now the only way to access is via a program which lists the "ISY" in the list of scenes. It no longer appears in the device tree.

I'm not sure I follow. But I don't often look for the isy/eisy device itself. It's always listed as whatever name is given to the in the tree with the console/monitor looking icon. It's possible that UD made it sort to the bottom of the device list, but I have my eisy name starting with a "U" so it seems to be sorted at the bottom just above the "Auto DR" scene (a default that can't be deleted). I believe the default was "my lighting", but some have changed it to eisy so it might show eisy as root and eisy as item directly under it. Some might have had it as "ISY" and it carried over in a migration. I remember when the Polisy and eisy were released that a lot of users wanted to add back the query program and we would suggest to look near the bottom and that's where people found it.

But again...you've found it now. I was just worried that you seemed to have a broken query program after an update and it made me check mine to be sure it wasn't a widespread bug/issue that needed to be brought up to UD.

@Geddy

The "ISY" or whatever it was named, doesn't appear in the device tree., however if you call it up in a program it will show up somewhere in your list of scenes.

17 hours ago, Techman said:

@Geddy

The "ISY" or whatever it was named, doesn't appear in the device tree., however if you call it up in a program it will show up somewhere in your list of scenes.

It does, but it is actually a scene used so eisy can observe status of all devices. Icon is a monitor, see @Geddy 's image.

@Javi

Are you saying that the "isy scene" won't respond to an off command, i.e. all off.

If that's the case how can I replicate the "all off" that appears in the admin console without creating a scene with a load of nodes

@Techman , give it a try (the ISY994 doesn't have the "isy scene" or I would try it).

Open the event viewer to level 3 and execute your program containing the "ISY scene off".

If you see "02 62 00 00 FF CF 13 00" appear in the viewer you have sent an "all off" to all linked Insteon devices.

Be advised that there may be follow on commands turning off Z-wave and other devices. My read is that this is an "ISY world off" command. If you learn differently, please advise.

1 hour ago, Techman said:

@Javi

Are you saying that the "isy scene" won't respond to an off command, i.e. all off.

If that's the case how can I replicate the "all off" that appears in the admin console without creating a scene with a load of nodes

It should respond.

@IndyMike @Javi

Unfourtantly turning off the ISY Scene had no effect on the Insteon devices, I'm back to square one.

I did notice the "02 62 00 00 FF CF 13 00" in the event viewer

However in the event viewer it issued an all off for X10. I have no X10 devices

Edited 9 hours ago9 hr by Techman