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Nice . . . Some follow up questions if you can answer them. 1. Will your program have the ability to reset the counters in the GEM system? If so would you be able to integrate a clock / calendar where these counters could be reset on a given schedule? 2. Will your node server implementation track the KWH for each channel as well as a global counter? 3. Will your node server be able to show *current / amps* for each 32 channels and use them in programs, scenes, etc?

Moving forward you have a solid solution to the problem at hand. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

Here are two basic questions and we can go from there. 1. What will a person see in the ISY Series Controller that is attached to a node server such as a RPi? 2. How will the 32 circuits, 8 temperature, 4 pulse channels be represented and where?

How are you going to address or fix the human element? Unless you upgrade your TSTAT where the settings can be locked out using various tools or hardware won't change the outcome. Everyone is different in terms of how they handle their environmental's. Some people simply add a sweater, while others fire up a local heater, then there are others who putz around with the TSTAT. Ignoring the human element for a moment if the home is *drafty* or air exchange is high. The first steps are to insure the buildings envelope is tight and well insulated from the elements. Not sure how old your house is or what kind of windows you have. Or what kind of temperatures you see in your local but addressing air exchange, leakage, and insulation are the basic's that must be addressed.

I've read most of the material on this forum and its still unclear to me what I will see in the ISY if anything. A break down of what a person will see and where it resides would probably clear things up for me and others. This whole node server thing never seems to be addressed head on by any single person as to what kind of UI or interface will be had. Not sure why this is so hard for people to break this down in plain English?!?!?

Lets try this a 3rd time . . .

This was offered more as a reference to the product. You can certainly purchase it elsewhere or where available for sale. Let us know which solution you go with and the final outcome. [emoji4] Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

UDI has indicated there default mail server is often over loaded or delayed. It has been suggested everyone moving forward use their own personal GMAIL account. I haven't seen any issues with sms / e-mails from the ISY Series Controller since doing so.

Yes . . . Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

I wouldn't be too worried about the device if it was placed under the eves or in a sheltered enclosure. As Larry indicated, I would be aware the device is only rated to provide temperature readings from, 14-122'F / -10'C to 50+'C. I am still looking to see and read hard data about how accurate some of the sensor elements are. For general purpose use I believe this is a great device which offers lots of flexibility for a compact sensor array.

Hello Tom, I believe a few people have been using and testing this Z-Wave 6 in 1 mutli sensor from Aeon Labs: http://www.smarthome.com/aeotec-zw100-a-z-wave-multisensor-6.htmlwith great success. So long as the device is placed under the eves or in a sheltered placement it should be fine. It is rated as indoor / outdoor with a low IP rating.

I apologize for being dense but will the above code be something I can inject into a custom e-mail? 1. What options in the custom e-mail drop down selection will allow me to see on January 01, 2015 at 12:00 PM the temp was -25'C? 2. Should number 1 change on January 02, 2015, at 2:33 PM the temp is -45'C. Will this custom e-mail show the new time stamp? Keeping in mind I don't care about the temperature as its already being recorded and updated etc which does in fact survive a reboot / firmware upgrade.

My apologies if I have confused you all and not expressed myself clearly. I currently have the programs in place which track the *current, low, and high* values. I am more interested in maintaining the last known time stamp for a low / high value. I don't believe any of the examples provided will offer this solution unless I am totally off base? It wouldn't be the first time, ha! As stated previously I receive many e-mails a day and depending upon the item being monitored these custom e-mails stream in 1-3 times a day. My requirement (wish) is to see a time stamp that never loses its last known date and time until such time as there is a actual change in state. I don't believe any of these current programs will be able to insert a time stamp into a custom e-mail that accomplishes this task?? As above if the lowest value is -25 at 12:00 PM on January 01, 2015. <-- I want this time and date to be remembered unless there is an actual change of state. In its current form the ISY can only insert the current time and date which doesn't help me. The reality is I have many other resources that already track, graph, chart these requirements. But, none of them can actually send me a piece of e-mail with a time stamp that indicates the history of such. I am thinking such a request is more of a novelty then a requirement for most people here. But for me its something that would in my mind offer better insight and awareness. In case if anyone is wondering how this problem came to light. About a year ago when I was hot and heavy in gluing all of these devices to operate with one another. I was asked to provide a screen shot of a few programs in action. As bad luck would have it all of the time stamps which clearly showed the lowest / highest temperatures in my environment which was accurate until system reboot! Clearly, I could not show them when it was -48'C! during XXX day, time, etc. Because it showed the current time and date which was clearly in the summer time! Anyways this is why this topic came to light because I said to myself there has to be a method to issue a custom e-mail and issue the last known date and time when this change of state is present. But its clear to me at the moment there isn't . . .

Hey Paul, I believe you are right the direction lots of these POCO's are taking is via their own cloud hosted services. With respect to a home with out HA technology thanks for the explanation as to how it would operate. I can't see anyone being very successful in turning off loads during peak period where most of the folks are at work etc. Then you have the other extreme where someone does have HA tech and in this case it would be a centralized hub / controller like the ISY Series Controller. Working in concert with Insteon, Z-Wave, Zigbee, X-10, a person and the POCO could make this work effectively. On a side note I have been told that other ZigBee profiles have been considered for inclusion. But with anything it comes down to priorities and resources and trying to balance the ROI for UDI. Sadly, I have been involved with this whole energy management for more than ten years and at its current pace. This area is very slow moving and when you compare it to other HA elements is not very sexy. The reality is people are more attracted to colored lights, A/V gear, and so on. Even though there has been a very big push toward energy conservation like LED bulbs. These items have very low impact on the monthly utility bill when compared to heating / cooling. People place comfort over costs in most cases and rarely do they consider the buildings infrastructure as the first step. From past threads which you and I have conversed such your spray foam insulation thread. Again, what you're doing is not very sexy the family doesn't see these things as value adds. But you and I both know with your push toward better TSTAT control, insulation, and using the ISY Series Controller and in concert with Insteon, Z-Wave, ZigBee, X-10, its helping to manage costs during peak periods and also sustains the homes environment much longer which ultimately equates to long term comfort and reduced energy costs. Unfortunately you're on the bleeding edge in your area as am I. In that area you're not rewarded or supported very well so my humble suggestion is to keep pushing forward with new ideas or recycle old ones.

Yes I recall the thread where you showed the link about that product and phone app. It was pretty cool to see how it operates via the smartphone. Over the years this whole smart meter integration to me at least has been a hit or miss affair. I know UDI has had success in helping a few members here to get it working. I don't recall if you have engaged them to do the same? [emoji53] So on a related note, what happens if you have no smart HA tech in your home? How does the POCO control devices for the ADR? [emoji46] Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

No, agree you're correct its hard to ask the ISY Series Controller to do so many things. Yet ask for something that is so specific like my request for a time stamp that will survive a reboot / firmware upgrade. I may take you up on your offer to deploy one of the RPi 2 at home to accomplish this task. The only reason I haven't gone this route is because four of them are currently tasked to other Alpha / Beta trials. For other companies I have been asked to test software / hardware for. Maybe I can take one of the units out of rotation and see if I can follow your steps to get this up and running. The reality is this specific issue isn't that pressing or the end of the world. Its just something I have thought about for many years and hoped the smart people on this forum had a simple and quick fix. If its not too much trouble and you wish to provide a step by step guide in this thread or a new one. Perhaps you solution will help more people than just me! Ha . . . I always find it funny that I will ask a question that no one else has and then all of the sudden there is this massive swarm of people doing the same??? Ironic or just coincidence?

Hey Builderb, What I am after is having the ability to receive daily custom e-mails that indicate the time stamp. In the above example you saw hi lighted in colors its the time and date which is important to me. Every day I receive reports indicating the current, low, and high value(s). Whether it be for temperature, watts, voltage, KWH, traffic, etc. The problem is if the ISY Series Controller is rebooted or firmware upgraded the time stamp will be system boot up time. It will never be the previous time stamp. As indicated above say in January 01, 2015 the low temp was -25'C at 12:00 PM. I want this date and time to survive the two conditions. If the temp should drop to -35'C and the time is 2:25 AM the system by default will have recorded this value. So, perhaps another way at asking the question is. What method is there to maintain the time stamp until such time as a legitimate change of state has occurred?

Hello Paul, I personally did not see a lot of value in connecting the ISY to a smart meter. In part, it really indicated the total amount of power you consumed which was exactly what the POCO was giving you anyways. The idea and intent of having the ISY Series Controller connected to the smart meter in my humble opinion was to help to off set over all costs. This could be from load shedding high current device during peak periods via the ADR etc. This of course requires HA devices such as Insteon to be present but again did not address large appliances most commonly used. To control the HVAC system would require a ZigBee TSTAT which integrates with the ISY Series Controller and thus would help load shedding during peak periods. I have never personally seen, read, or heard of anyone using the combination in their homes. Assuming load shedding is not the topic of discussion for a moment and its simply a matter of having the ability to control specific loads in the home based on the KWH at the time. To me this is really a half measure and you really never have complete insight and awareness using this method. This is why I went the long route and purchased the Brultech GEM which you know integrates with the ISY and provides 32 discreet nodes. In this way there is no guessing what is on, off, or consuming energy. With detailed information about discreet circuits in the home programs can be deployed to act upon real time power use. As of this writing the ISY Series Controller does not support the HA protocol so locks and sensors are out of the picture. The ZigBee profile currently only supports the energy aspect so its quite limited at this time. What exactly is going on with the current smart meter & ISY?

Um, given that the latest generation of Insteon devices offers smart hops, blink on error, message clean up, and blink on traffic. This device doesn't offer a lot to the average person and it should be noted it only works on devices built after I believe 2012 etc.

You just have to remove the device(s) from the associated scene and add in any new devices that you want. Also, out of best practices always hard reset any new Insteon device you receive. This insures any test links, programming, and ghost scenes are removed and brings the device back to a a OEM default state.

If you haven't done so moving forward please do make another image back up.

Please correct me if I am wrong you wish to only know if the alarm / buzzer sounds off because the high level has been reached, correct? If so then the first thing I would do is measure and see what this siren outputs and upgrade the siren or place one in parallel and extend the wires so it can be heard when you're local to the vacation home. I do believe the Synchrolinc would also provide the alert notification you're looking for. As the device simply monitors (which you set for low / high) conditions and reacts. As you indicated the device is supposed to be linked to some kind of device in your situation you can do it like I have or vary the deployment. 1. Link the Synchrolink to a dedicated light / lamp linc / relay module. 2. Link it to a I/O Linc and do the whole Buzz Linc which Stu has provided way back in the day. 3. Of course the two above are solely for visual alerts when on site. You simply need to create a state variable to track the ON condition of the Synchrolinc as another method to track when this device was turned on etc because the ISY will track this event with a nice time stamp. When the variable changes to (1) indicating on it will be linked to a custom alert e-mail of your choosing.

I have nothing to offer in terms of value to the technical question at the moment. Besides its so cool to get a flash back of a wooden mounting plate on the ceiling! Honestly haven't seen that in 30 plus years . . .

Well then, I eagerly await more 5.XX features to be pushed out to the 4.XX platform or see 5.XX come to Beta. I am going to mark down this code you have provided thus far. As always much thanks for the continued support and guidance! I honestly could not have achieved so very much with out the insight and feed back from you and many others.

I would think if this device operates on standard 110/120 VAC you could simply use the Synchro Linc. This device can measure and monitor when something comes on / off. Using this device would allow you to know exactly when its activated and thus send out a e-mail to you. http://www.smarthome.com/synchrolinc-insteon-2423a5-power-synching-controller.html