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As stated earlier I am happy and relieved to read no one was hurt and this is why home insurance is in place for such accidents. Moving forward I would humbly suggest you either or contract out the outside lights to be segmented out. Regardless of the lighting technology you have in place and back up power it makes no sense in powering the tennis court, pool, etc. Load shedding is an option where the system is smart enough to remove / add loads based on the systems limits. If load shedding can not be incorporated, then again only *critical loads* should be powered during a grid down event. I also agree with you LED lighting still has a way to go given the vast amounts of variability, noise, and long term use. At this point I would move forward and replace those older units with current product offerings which by the way incorporate the following features. - 100 - 277 wider voltage which helps guard against voltage swings / sags. - Higher surge protection against electrical line faults. - Reduced energy consumption when compared to previous iteration models. - Phase coupling confirmation: Same phase - opposite phase via dual colored LED's. - Resume: Based on last known state of on-off. Bottom line the family and over all the home is safe now move forward and make the required changes to enjoy that beautiful home. Game on . . .

Newer Insteon devices will not work on your 26 model as there are no firmware signatures indicating they exist.

Just some observation(s) and feed back with regard to some of the above. Its apparent to me your Kohler back up generator deployment was not well thought out. Its apparent to me money isn't an issue here so it translates to knowledge, expectations, and life style. The generator firstly should have been spec'd to have a load shedding capability which Kohler has several solutions for. Next, assuming the load shedding was not something considered or available at that time. Then the key rules of a back up generator were already broken and that is to provide power only for critical loads. There is absolutely no reason why anyone would need 8000 watts of outside lights to be powered, none. These lights should have been segmented and placed in groups where key lighting would be available should it be required. You certainly did not need all 8000 watts to be lit up. What is this a concert?!?! With respect to the power on after electrical failure no argument about how incredibly stupid that method is. The current iterations of Insteon devices (most) use *Last Known State* which is a great compromise. If its on it will return to that condition upon a electrical event and vice versa. With respect to your daughter dropping her scarf on the table lamp? I'm sorry but that was a user issue and can't be placed on Smartlabs entirely. More people die a year due to careless acts then actual conditions that exist in their own environment. People summarily believe they can gamble with their lives all day long doing stupid things. Just because nothing ever happen before, wrong . . . There is no such thing as luck, bad luck. The simple fact is you called out these issues long ago about the devices being on after a power blip. Your decision to leave them in place is ultimately a personal choice. It doesn't mean that SH should not have done something to assist you in lessening the pain of replacement given its a terrible concept and design. As you well illustrated the consequences can be severe and deadly if not addressed. Bottom line get rid of those devices which present a power on condition. Next, rethink and redeploy the generator to either load shed, or actually follow the intent of the generator and that is to power critical loads only. Following that with isolating a few outside lights for needed and required path lighting. Lastly, change out those bulbs even a few will do several things for you. Even if you did nothing else it will save you money and it will reduce the startup load for that generator. Since you obviously have no idea who I am besides some random guy on the Internet. I would like to qualify that almost every body who has read my rants, views, feed back knows I have absolutely no issue throwing SH / Smartlabs under the bus, none. But in this case besides calling out the stupid method they used in the switches you have. The rest is a user issue that needs to be solved by you. I am sure your daughter has literally learned the hard way to be mindful of where she places her items in the future. Which of course high lights the obvious here the bulb in use was indeed a standard bulb. No LED bulb or even a CFL bulbs would have generated enough heat to cause a fire. Unless it was completely surrounded and engulfed in something. As older CFLs did run warm but no where compared to a standard incandescent bulb. At the end of the day I am happy no one was hurt and obviously no one died. Because it makes no difference what happen the loss of life is something no one ever wants to see or experience. I hope you take the feed back provided in a constructive manner as its easy to get angry and not too.

Reboot the controller and try again and report back.

A third party device would be say a Autelis Bridge, RPi, which sends data to the 994 Series Controller. I ask because sometimes the send rate overwhelms the controller and tasks that are queued stop other processes from being completed. Also if you have lots of programs that are running you can eliminate that as a possible cause and disable the program (root) folder and try again.

Hello Bob, Do you so happen to have lots of 3rd party devices sending variables to the ISY?

I haven't read that you tried what I suggested which was hard reset the switch and wire it to a long extension cord and plug it into the same outlet of the 2413S PLM and try to add it.

Hello ScottAvery, It should be noted that a Type 1 at the meter base or a Type 2 installed at the main service panel will not protect the home against the following line disturbances: Sag, Frequency Drift, Extended line voltage. Type 1 & 2 SPD's will also not protect the home against lower voltage transients that are more common than ones people expect to see from a lightning strike. Also note a SPD will not protect the home when a loose neutral is present either. Purchasing and installing a Type 1, 2, 3 SPD's are however a great investment and measured insurance for the home and the occupants. In all cases regardless of the technology in place the home should be fully insured properly to against loss and damages. This is the only thing that will make you whole during a massive electrical event. Most people are unaware that most transients (surge / sags) are generated from with in the home. These normally come from high current devices coming on such as: Sumps, HVAC, and anything that has a motor / compressor etc. Extended line voltages are conditions that exceed 130 VAC most common electronics are able to sustain and operate with in 100 - 150 VAC but not all. This is why you have seen a drastic relaunch of Insteon devices that support 100 - 277 VAC power as it offers commercial use but the side benefit is that its purpose built to operate in those extreme line voltages. If you took a common (older pre 100 -277) device and ramp'd up the voltage past 150 VAC the unit would burn up. The latest iteration of these devices are supposed to be more robust and capable of handing such wide voltage swings. They have also increased the surge resistance along with reduced the energy consumption on current product offerings. Just some random feed back . . . Ha

Hello Craig, There is no multi login profiles as of yet in the ISY. What you read is what view and resources are available to you when you login as the Admin. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

Hello Michel, The conditions for the program are listed in the first post.

Mobotix is not very common in North America but is one of the best security camera makers in the market. Other great companies are Axis, Pelco, Sony. Axis and Pelco are the go too brands for many of us in the Enterprise world. Seeing a camera survive a bomb blast is really something to be in shock and awe. First time I was on site at the Pelco proving grounds and they lit off a small explosive next to their explosive rated camera it was like rolling thunder . . .

I would wire it to a extension plug and bring it to the 2413S PLM and see if you can add it then. Report back success / failure and keep in mind you should do a hard reset to ensure its not locked up.

Things to consider assuming they are present in your home are furnace, air conditioner, dehumidifier, fridge, freezer, sump, geo thermo pump, desuper heater, etc. I would be looking at what appliances and normal cell chargers are present and charging at those time intervals. Also taking into account there have been times where a Insteon device has caused massive traffic on the power line. The most famous is the Venstar Insteon adapter plug . . . Previous generations of KPL's I don't recall which model year but they too had a bad habit of broadcasting data as if it was on a loop?!?! I would like to say it was te 1C versions but its been a long time so don't quote me on that hardware rev.

Hello Mario, Can we start with one problem item like the switch and get that squared away first? If you're having issues with the PLM this would indeed cause related delays in adding any hardware as the ISY is simply a controller that helps add, delete, create scene relationships. If the PLM is dying and losing links etc this will cause untold grief which are not related to the ISY. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

Yeah, I am hoping XMAS will bring in the real sales like what was seen last year. I don't know what the actual discount was at that time (2014 XMAS) but the four packs were crazy cheap. Leak sensors, micro switches, motion sensors etc. I scooped up five sets of the 4 packs and had no regrets then because those sort of deals don't come along very often. Given the Canadian dollar is truly in the toilet at this point I may not partake in this years sale. Boooo Booooo . . . .

Maybe we can jump in and help. Whats the first problem you would like to resolve?

This is what the custom e-mail states when sent to me. All of the text are static to remind me what the thresholds are etc. The only one that is not static is the *Energy Consumed Now* which calls a variable for that circuit. Essentially, it displays the amount of watts seen on that circuit during that time. There are no other programs that call this custom email or associated with it. ======================= ======================= The X-MAS light program has been activated. This program runs from 5:30 until 8:00 PM each day. Idle power for this branch circuit is <8.00 watts. Energy Consumed Now: ${var.2.60} Watts

Hello Michel, You're correct the third image was generated using the ELSE clause as I wanted to show what is the normal expected completion email I expect and have received in the past. There is only one X-MAS program in my system at the moment. With respect to the *content* are you asking what the custom e-mail says when its sent to me?

I just started seeing this strange problem in the last few days and was curious if others have seen the same thing. Essentially I have a program that sends me a custom email alert indicating the XMAS tree is lit and what the power readings are at that time. This first alert simply confirms the tree is lit and what the energy demands are as you will see in the following attachment. Once the program has been completed and the lights turned off I simply use the *Default* option as an email. In the past this *Default* option would just confirm the action was completed and included a time stamp etc. Now, I am receiving random data that is unrelated to that scene / program?!?! Has anyone seen this problem before and what can be done to prevent it? Below are three examples two of which simply show you what the random messages are. The last one called (default) is what I normally see and expect when using the default message option. This is the very basic program listed below: X-MAS Tree - [iD 012F][Parent 012E] If From 5:30:00PM To 8:00:00PM (same day) Then Set Scene 'Kitchen Wall Plug' On Wait 45 seconds Send Notification to 'GMX' content 'Insteon - X-MAS Lights - On' Else Set Scene 'Kitchen Wall Plug' Off Send Notification to 'GMX'

With anything it comes down to first your budget and real world goals. Setting realistic expectations that mirror life is essential in a positive outcome. I can tell you based on some of your initial comments your idea is sound but the implementation is flawed. Meaning you need to think about this as a long term investment which will yield many years of dividends. If you spend a little now you will certainly spend a lot more later and be disappointed in the over all results. WiFi is not to be used for any serious security camera, ever. As you noted you don't wish to impact your bandwidth and regardless of the QOS settings and other means to reduce bandwidth that is part and partial. Ideally you should have a isolated network that is dedicated to the camera system. Some on a very cheap budget will segment the network to be on a separate IP range. Others will even try to use virtual networks to accomplish the very same. Both methods work but are inherently limited by the router anyways. This is why a dedicated and isolate network is key because it offers fail over, independence, and zero conflict with existing network devices in the infrastructure. WiFi even with the AC is great but make no mistake this is a terrible idea and does not lend to true security and only offers convenience. If you're unable to do the proper wiring I suggest hire it out and any one in the industry can and will do a quick work of it and the final results will be you will have more options down the road. Along with long term, secure video surveillance, and quality of image and build. Many cameras now come with embedded web hosting and on board Micro SD image capture. I really like this type of solution as it offers immediate fail over and redundancy in the network. Meaning you can still stream the content to a central NDVR but if it should ever fail or get stolen. All of the images, video will still reside in the actual camera system(s). Things to keep in mind cameras offer several types of compression methods to allow high quality but also reduce bandwidth. H.264, MPEG4, etc are all standard these days. Besides the compression it also comes down to FPS (Frames per second) and the resolution you're after such as 720 vs 1080P. In some areas you may not need 1080P at 80-120 FPS while others you do. Keeping in mind don't go into this thinking you're going to get license plate quality or face recognition at night for $200.XX. You won't and the reality is quality in this space requires a large investment that 90% of the population are unwilling to spend at all. It doesn't mean you need to spend $1000.00 per camera but it does mean if your budget is (reasonable) and allows at least $350 and upwards for a single camera. You can expect many long years of trouble free operations, quality of image, vast options for I/O, software, etc. If your budget does not allow many cameras then I always suggest one high quality PTZ camera. Just one of these high quality units not only provides massive scan area but the FOV is not an issue. Consider the information above from a person who has literally tried every cheap camera system you can think of just to find that golden nugget. NOTE: There are indeed some great value items in the 3rd tier product lines offered from Asian vendors. But it takes lots of time and investment to find those that actually perform in the long run.

I believe the need and market demand is in someone making a KPL key frame that allows native wide button insertion. Doing so would avoid the center shadow from being seen. As many others have used the six / eight button frame as a 4 wide button arrangement. It works quite well but for that professional look it would be best to avoid the center black ghosting effect. I've toyed with the idea for sometime but haven't gotten past the concept stage as the media per piece is still too much for such a small widget. Not sure if someone will be willing to part with $15 - 20.XX for a 4 wide frame kit. But since others have payed $49.XX for just eight small plastic squares you never know!

There is so much truth and honesty in the above posts where does one begin? As I have stated many times here and abroad in other forums. When you let *profit before people* and the focus on producing the cheapest hardware to ensure the highest profits. This will impact your long term business sales and the product line. As I also stated in the past the amount of public awareness (shaming) has driven what has been seen now. I don't personally believe that public shaming should ever be used to make a company realize their faults etc. Every company has R&D and procedures to determine root cause of faults when excessive warranty and out of warranty items are sent back. Its obvious to me they sat on this for awhile because there was a large 2-3 year gap where nothing was being done. But slowly with the advent and huge push of HA as seen from hundreds of vendors now entering the fray. That if Smartlabs (Insteon) was to be seen as a viable and serious contender in the *Long Term* HA industry. They needed to change the *Profit before People* mentality and change the hardware. This was seen in the PSU now used in many of the devices which support wide voltage ranges. The fact they natively support 100 - 277 VAC, higher surge, and lower energy consumption indicates most of the feed back was taken in and a revamp was done. This doesn't help those early adopters like you and me but it does bold well for others moving forward. To be fair to Smartlabs most of this is driven by Senior Management and not at the engineering level. Because we all know these people are more than capable of designing, creating, and building quality products. It simply comes down to the will to do so . . .

My apologies the plastic is indeed white if you selected that color. My comment was in regards to the font color which the OEM keys are a shade of green. The custom keys you will receive the font (words) will be a shade of off gray. NOTE: Also depending upon when you purchased your Insteon KPL's the actual plastic when lit will either appear as white vs others will be a shade of yellow?

Sorry I don't follow what you're trying to do? If you intend to use the 8 button set on a 6 button KPL how are you going to activate the top and bottom button? Are you actually going to use two fingers to press on the top & bottom keys?!?! EDIT: After reading over your reply it sunk in. Your plan is to use the 8 button set and split them in two. Two sets of four for each KPL. Yes, that would be a much better value for sure. NOTE: You should be aware that the OEM keys are green in color. Whereas the custom keys are a shade of gray so make sure you're OK with this.

I believe Jon was inferring to (new) 3rd party development of the Insteon product line. Those you have mentioned are old and existing vendors since product launch besides the camera's. Which have been in place for at least five years now etc. I am afraid outside of software support or where a device has some kind of open API such as the Amazon Echo, Harmony Remote, etc. You're not going to see a large vendor actually create product, integrate, or incorporate Insteon technology. That ship has sailed away long ago and those who enter the fray have decided ZigBee / Z-Wave, WiFi, BLE, is the path to follow. As I indicated in the past many times the business plan for Smartlabs (Joe Dadda) should be to offer the PLM chips for free or at a very low discounted price which can be incorporated into any appliance device. Essentially, this would allow a person to see the status, control it, and monitor the energy consumption of said product(s). I don't recall the name of the Chinese company last year that was mentioned. But, this one company has decided to do the exact same thing and if it takes off it will be a huge disrupt-er for the HA industry. On Topic: I am quite sadden to read that a hardware 2.XX 2413S PLM has failed. It would be great to know the exact details of production, firmware, etc.