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As always I thank you! [emoji1] Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

Glad you got all sorted out.

It would be best if you created a service request to UDI to facilitate a solution in this regard.

Hello Davonavo, The first link does not download a file to your computer system? If it does all you need to do is click on the down load and the application will launch. Once it finds your ISY Series Controller it will than automatically launch the Admin Console.

This thread has lots of useful information pertaining to the topic at hand: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/15043-wiring-a-load-to-be-permanently-on/

I would have to gather this will be like the heart beat node appearing in the Open / Close sensor as it never had it before. More than likely UDI will once again have to reach out to someone at Smartlabs and determine what *Magic* needs to be added into the next firmware release to take advantage of this new firmware feature. As I have stated many times here and abroad in other forums. Smartlabs inability to take just a small amount of time and communicate to their internal staff never mind to the general public. Is truly astounding and continue to show the piss poor consideration for the consumer! This is 2015 and they have half a dozen methods to inform and update the consumer and their tech support. Yet at every turn they fall miserably on their face and let the general public beta test yet another new *feature* You know the phrase STUPID is not lightly used when addressing someone. But, in this case after 10 freaking years Smarthome / Smartlabs truly embodies STUPID on all levels of communication and deployment.

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OK, something here simply does not track. I have been following this thread with great interest and just moments ago everything was accessible perfectly fine via the HAD interface. Meaning when I was in the HAD interface when selecting the Admin tab like I normally do. Upon selecting the *Admin Console* tab it then showed the broken link and that the plugin was no longer supported WTF??? This issue was seen after selecting the link provided by Michel in the docked thread located here: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/15885-chrome-and-isys-admin-console/ Selecting option one which down loads the link from the UDI server and places it on your desktop is directly related to the web browser showing this plugin is not supported??? Can someone explain to me what can be done to restore the previous access?? I like Shannong would prefer not to have the finder floating around even though I have three ISY Series Controllers in production.

I was thinking about something else when you initially replied. Assuming we are talking about the same thing lets be clear. 1. In the device tree on the left if a device has multi nodes. To have them all under one level simply right click and select group. 2. If we are talking about a folder where there are many individual folders. To place it (with in the folder) simply drag & drop it to the top level (parent / child) folder.

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Does it still have the two screw terminals for external sensor use?

The 6 VDC will be fine as I recall the ISY has a huge voltage range of approx 30 VDC.

If you use another (older) link for a previous Beta firmware this too can cause untold issues. The UI / Firmware in the *About* in all cases should match and be identical. This single conflict has in the past resolved many random issues not explainable. If you're in doubt and the *About* still indicates a conflict with what you actually have. I would humbly suggest you perform the upgrade again and than clear the java cache including all check box's. At that time you will use the most current link that is associated to that firmware release to access the Admin Console.

Hello Don, This may not resolve the slow loading times but I did notice your firmware and UI levels were not the same. Please clear the Java cache and select all check box's while doing so. Often times strange behavior is attributed to this one conflict. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

If the device is set for night only mode there should be very little traffic coming from the MS. If you didn't set it to night only mode this is expected. Its also very dependant upon the location, install, and FOV. Keep in mind IR sensors are prone to false readings due to extreme temperature changes, wind, and reflected light. You will need to determine the above first and follow up with a solution that meets your needs. There are settings to reduce the level of sensitivity the MS will detect. If that is not enough you can always use a old school trick and place a piece of card board of various thickness to reduce the FOV. Keep in mind the Insteon sensor is by no stretch of the imagination a true motion sensor. You wan't high reliability and less false alerts than you need to purchase the real thing.

I took Don's reply that he upgraded the Java application six months ago. But, I can see how it could be taken as he is running Java v6.

Just in case no one has said: Thank You for sharing this work!

No worries glad this is resolved. It should be mentioned a few Java releases have at random times ignored the *do not warn me again* prompt so this is why you need to select default all settings once in awhile. In the advanced tab there are a few more options also and another which seems to have disappeared which I don't recall off the top of my head.

Yeah, the install thread is pretty long and is a culmination of many years of effort and slow progress in various areas. Take your time to read over just that link about the Autelis Bridge. Its a fantastic product that offers so very much with very little investment when compared to other devices on the market. There are other 1-Wire products which require a little more tinkering and support. I opted to go the route of plug and play because I am sure you can relate. At some point you simply do not have the time to baby sit or have another make work project that requires endless reading and set up time. I have enough Alpha / Beta projects under my belt and didn't need another! There has been lots of improvements in the original Autelis Bridge based on my feed back. So if you go that route you can thank me for all the new features! HA With respect to your original goal of monitoring the in floor heating and controlling it. I believe it comes down to first understanding how your device operates and seeing how something can be interfaced with it. I believe the first step is to see how the system reacts when power is removed. If the unit powers up and retains its original temperature settings you may be in good shape. At that point you could use a Micro Relay to shut off the system during none occupancy periods such as sleep, work, school, etc. I would humbly suggest you write into the maker and ask them for more insight and they may be able to first tell you what kind of sensors are being used and next what other alternatives are available for 3rd party TSTATS. Again, I don't believe a 3rd party TSTAT would be the correct solution for a in floor heater. As it has no method to measure the floor temp and the ambient air temp would have to get very hot given its height to turn on / off. Keep us all in the loop as I am sure your project will find good use to others walking down the same path.

Are you both running Version 41.0.2272.118 m? What OS and SP level?

Go to the Java in the control panel under the *Security Tab* select *Restore Security Prompts*. Once you do that upon the next login there will be a pop up and at the bottom left will be a check box to let you continue with out being prompted.

That's not very encouraging to say the least. But am not very surprised by the results either. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

That's interesting to see and in the OP's case does open the door to that possibility. I am more familiar with the DS18B20 / DS18S20 1-Wire variety.

I can't honestly say I have ever seen data being sent on the power line. The other method I have seen is when the host (master) is not being used to supply power either because its not strong enough or the wire run is too long causing a voltage drop. This is where an axillary power source is used but the data / negative lines are still tied back the master. Also, not to confuse others there are so called one wire systems but they are not based on the Dallas 1-Wire standard protocol. This may be what you're speaking about and they may very well be capable of using only two wires.

2. If it only has two wires its not based on the Dallas 1-Wire sensor protocol. As it requires three wires positive, negative, data. 3. I was speaking more from a point of temperature monitoring through out the house. As I have done in mine, where having a large sensor grid allows me to manage and activate various Insteon enabled devices such as fans, vents, exhaust, and HVAC. You could definitely use any of the 1-Wire hardware devices to help aid you in this aspect. My only reservation is mounting point(s) and aesthetics. You and I both know as much as we like to tinker it comes down to (WAF) Wife Acceptance Factor) and insuring the home looks nice. I have seen too many (College Dorm) looking half assed installs in my time. The decor must be able to stand up to the general populace and not be distracting or take away from the homes appearance. If you're more curious about what I have used you may take a quick look in my on going installation thread located here: http://www.brultech.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=929&start=80