C Martin

I use this program to control my closet lights: If Control 'Closet Lights / Closet Motion-Sensor' is switched On And ( $sSleepTime is 0 And $sClosetOveride is 0 ) Then Set Scene 'Closet Lights / Closet light Switch' On Wait 60 seconds Set Scene 'Closet Lights / Closet light Switch' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') This program is used to over ride the Clost Motion program and will run for the time in the "Wait" Line. The "Closet Motion Program" is also stopped and the "Closet Overide On - Day" program is also reset to a False status. Please note: I just added the Parenthesis to the code. So, my question is: Without any Parenthesis, how does ISY evaluate the program? I made the mistake of believing that all of the "AND" statements would be evaluated before any results would be yielded. I was receiving inconsistent results. Sometimes the program would evaluate correctly and other times it would not. Kind of a Lazy, Rookie error and a poor assumption on my part. Am I wrong? I realize the Parenthesis adds "Logical Value" to the program but is it necessary for the program to work correctly? What is the Logical flow to evaluating Logical Statements? Please give me some guidance on this matter. Clarence

Are you planning ZWave compatibility? Just exploring all options for future uses?

Michel, or? Orchestrator ISY 992i What is the status of this device? Are there any preliminary specs out yet? Will this be both Insteon and Zigbee capable? Will there be a Beta Testing cycle and How can we participate? I am about to upgrade my HVAC system and I think that Zigbee might be a good deal. There are some commercial HVAC controls manufacturers who are using Zigbee now with wireless temperature sensors. Thanks, Clarence

I have to say.... "you're never too old to learn". I have been working with ISY since about day one and Scenes have always been a confusing issue with me. I use a Motion Detector and require different parameter based on the time of day. I have tried this for a long time and have never truly been successful with this until now. My situation is still a little different because I am also using a remote switch with a companion switch because I only have a two wire configuration. But ALAS, success thanks to this posting and some concentrated thought and programming work. I seldom used scenes because I thought I was having memory issues with my Dimmerlincs, but now I understand how to program scene values and SUCCESS. Thanks to this forum and all that contribute. Clarence

Hi Michel, I have actually seen this happen to me. It is not consistent. I just thought this was a default situation, and haven't paid much attention to the situation. I actually only noticed it after the posting of this thread. Clarence

up and until now, I have created programs as Flags to act as variables. I would check to see if a flag program was true or not and have decisions made based on those values. variables will allow us to have more control over just true and false. you can add values and look for various values in the variables to make program decisions. BTW there is a topic now on the forum for variables with some good info: http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewforum.php?f=68 For me, and many others we are really happy to have variables now. IE: you now create counters for events and make decisions based on the count value, Do one thing based on a count of 1 or another thing based on a count of 5 or 6 or 10. I for one, count the detection of my motion detector to make decisions and then send me an alert based on the high count. Once you get the lowdown on variables you will like using them. Clarence

Dan, I have done some work with the new variables and I found that you can set a new initial value via a program. I actually have a motion sensor program that sends me an email after a certain count of motion senses. I intend to set up some kind of cross-zone motion detection for late night security. Code If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then $State_1 Init To 1 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') End Code Your "IF" statement can contain whatever parameters that you nee to trigger the program. this works for the 2 types of variables. Clarence

Thanks for your continued development with the ISY. I look forward to the development with Variables. Clarence

Just FYI. For all of you and this should be a lot of people, I use time programs as flags for different types of times that I use for program control. I.E. Sunset, Sunrise, Night time, Good Night,an other misc time periods that I use. With some of these time periods, I use Random Waits commands to simulate security times. This eliminates the re-using of Sunset or sunrise codes multiple times or other time setups that are used frequently. Example: If From Sunrise To Sunset (same day) Then - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I use these with Folders that are enabled by these flags and programs that will fire when these folders are enabled. Folder Conditions for 'Goodnite Lighting Folder' Add conditions to limit when programs in this folder are allowed to run. If Program 'GoodNite Flag Pgm' is True Then Allow the programs in this folder to run. If Folder 'Goodnite Lighting Folder' is True Then Wait 15 minutes (Random) Run Program 'Goodnite Lighting Pgm' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') This can be utilized when you need to interrupt a program and re-establish the program again. I posted this because I noticed a posting about using timed programs recently. I hope that is information is of some use and help to others in this forum. I also hope that I explained this clearly. If not I can answer and give some more examples. Some other examples of my time flags: Evening Flag: If From Sunset To Sunrise (next day) Then - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Goodnite flag: If From 11:00:00PM To Sunrise (next day) Then Run Program 'Sunset Flag Pgm' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Example of a prgram that uses a flag program: If Program 'Evening Flag Pgm' is True And Control 'KeyPad Switches / KeyPad Side Yard Light ©' is switched On Then Set 'Exterior Lights / Side Yard' Fade Up Wait 15 minutes Set 'Exterior Lights / Side Yard' Fade Down Set Scene 'KeyPad Switches / Key Pad Toggles / KP Side Yard On/Off Toggle' Off Else Set 'Exterior Lights / Side Yard' Off Set Scene 'KeyPad Switches / Key Pad Toggles / KP Side Yard On/Off Toggle' Off

Hi Rand, Good Call! As soon as I read your post, I knew you hit the "Nail on the Head". I am running PC Tools Internet Security and as soon as I turned it off, My ISY started up in a few seconds compared to before. I guess that this software is pretty aggressively checking things out, so I need to see if I can throttle it down for the ISY. For all of you kiddies out there, This is the reason that Forums like this are so important. The knowledge Exchange is a real winner. We depend on each other to provide some information that sometimes we can't see, because we are so caught up in the problem. Thanks, Clarence

anther question..... Does the ISY go into a sleep mode? Maybe having a hard time waking? Clarence

Hi Rand, I downloaded the new Java. It seems to open the Chrome Window better... The last time check - it took about 1 minute to get the Admin window loaded. Once the ISY is up and running, if I re-click the "My Lighting" short cut, the Admin window comes pretty quickly. So, there still seems to be a problem. Clarence

Thanks Rand, I will download and try it. Clarence

Hi Michel, I haven't talked to you in a while. Good to hear from you. I only have a handful of devices. I am a small time operator - less than a dozen. I don't use scenes anymore because I have a feeling that there are some inherent memory problems with the Insteon Devices - just a personal side note. But it may help to understand that I may have a lot of program code for my system. I have about 80 Programs in my system. I am pretty efficient with my coding. Most of my programs take ten lines of code or less. I use folders and sub-folders extensively. My short cut uses the following call: "C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" --app="http://isy/admin". For some reason my "My Lighting" shortcut seems to be very verbose. This is from the properties info from the "Shortcut". Maybe the problem could be due to my IExlporer exe. It has a tendency to get lost with Windows 7. It sometimes gets locked up and has to re-start. My Windows XP Computer does not take quite that long to run. I am using Slim Browser on that computer. The "Java" icon comes up clearly with its animation on that computer and not on the Windows 7 Computer. Interesting.... I truly suspect it my Windows 7 install.... Clarence

I re-tested and the initial window takes about 30 seconds to open and the admin ISY log-on window takes about another 30 or so seconds to load.

OK, My ISY 99 is taking a long time opening up. Sometimes it takes 30 to 40 seconds. Many times, I have to reload the ISY because it doesn't open with any statuses showing. This has been happening for a while now and I don't think things are any worse or better. I am using Chrome as my default browser. I have also tested this anomaly with Firefox with the same results. I am using a Windows 7 Pro O/S. I have also cleared my Java cache, just to be sure. Any ideas????? Clarence Martin

It is my understanding that Scene information is stored in the individual insteon devices? So many devices can have multiple scene links contained within them? Could this be the problem with the various V35 version failures or anomalies? I am going to experiment by using direct program controls to see if these failures are resolved. I just wonder if the problems are associated with the internal flash memory in the insteon devices. Any comments or thoughts would greatly be appreciated. Clarence

Hi - Clarence here. I posted a problem about a week or so about my V35 having issues, but all of a sudden it started responding again. Is this typical of V35 problems - where things will go back to normal all by themselves? This self repair has stopped me from replacing my SWL Dimmer for now - am I being foolish? Should I expect to see future problems with this SWl Dimmer? Has anyone else seen this self-repair happen? Clarence

So, has Smart home been doing trade-ins for weird units? Clarence

So, all SWL's need to be updated otherwise there are communication issues? Clarence

Paul, Thanks - my bad, I was reading the tag on the Devices. 1 - SWL v.27 1 - SWL v.27 1 - SLW v35 ( The Offending device) 1 - KPL v00 Clarence

I did my install on a laptop via a wireless network connection. Clarence

Rand, Here is the inventory of devices in that 4 gang box. 1 - SWL ver 2.4 1 - SWL ver 3.3 1 - SLW ver 4.2 ( The Offending device) 1 - KPL rev 1.4 Interesting since the ver. 3.3 and the 4.4 were, I thought purchased at the same time.

My electrical and ISY system have had no changes. All of the devices I reported earlier are on the same circuit. All of the switchlincs in that box were recently updated and I assume are the same versions - I don't know for sure. BTW there are 3 switchlincs and a KPL in that box. Only 1 switchlinc is showing this problem at this time. I have had some sporadic scene problems with another device in the past. I added a couple of access points for that problem - seems to have worked. I just did some scene testing and have found that there seem to be other scenes with the same devices are having intermittent problems too. Again, I am able to send manual commands to this switchlinc and it is responding. So, does this mean it it time to reset my ISY and reload the programs? Clarence

I have one switchlinc dimmer that has decided to have a mind of its own. It is located in a box with a KPL and another switchlinc that work correctly. It is not responding to Scene commands - sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. There have been no changes to my system and because the other 2 devices are communicating it doesn't appear to be a noise issue. I have rest and re-linked the device using the air-gap switch and stup button, but it doesn't seem to help. More: I removed it from and re-installed it in the scene but no go. It is responding to direct commands although there were some issues with that for a while. Any suggestions???? Clarence