paulbates

Weclome back! Probably the biggest news is the V5, 2 versions in beta and a number of us using it. Close, but not there yet on zwave multichannel. IIRC, you were a user of io_guy's programs on the pi. He now has node server versions out for many of them, including ecobee. And the final news down that path is polglot, UDI python libraries for building node servers. Zigbee has not gone anywhere as a basic PL technology... support for supported devices like stats, but not near the focus that is on zwave. There is certainly more, but I'm sure this will keep you busy for a while Paul

Yep. Baffling & frustrating over what appears to be component quality for a few cheaper capacitors. I have insteon devices like lamplincs and inlinelincs from the beginning, still working away daily.....but plms for some reason..

Chuck Restore PLM. It may help for a while, but your PLM has the classic symptoms of on its way to failure. Paul

I don't know about the airgap part. I have had outlet lincs display odd behavior like this from noise and become non responsive. After filtering the noise, it behaves normally. In the case of a yard light transformer, it could take up to 20 minutes of being on before the behavior appeared, and then power had to be removed from the switch to get it back to operations Probably a snubber or XPNR on the load side will resolve this.

Hi Jeff Yep. I have 3 outletlincs for my yard and Christmas lights, used them for a number of years. I'm in southeast Michigan and we can get down to -20F. Most insteon devices draw a small amount of current to operate and that keeps them operating, even colder than spec'd in my experience. The outletlincs are fussy about line noise. I have a low voltage yard lighting transformer that plugs directly in. If I don't have a filter in between, the outlet linc eventually stops responding. I'm not sure if dual band changes that, my outletlincs are fairly old. Paul

You're pretty much there. Start with the sunset to sunrise (next day). Add the zones. I would use control to catch them going on, but you may want to use status in case that they are on. They may be from an elk, use whatever statements tell you that the zone is violated. Then add the Add And (..) using the buttons on the right in the admin console. Use the Move Line Up button on the left to put the parens around the code for the zones: You'll want And, because both things need to be true. Using Or, either event will cause the program to run, which doesn't meet your requirement. New Program Copy - [ID 004B][Parent 0001] If From Sunset To Sunrise (next day) And ( 'Zone' is switched On And 'Zone' is switched On ) Then - Your Stuff Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Paul

Based on how its written, it will take 10 minutes for it to come back with a 25 minute wait (as opposed to 30). Its not running again after 10 minutes, or 35 minutes after starting the program? Control - [ID 005D][Parent 005B] If $Allow_to_Run is 1 Then Repeat Every 35 minutes Set 'Main Bedroom / Bedroom Humidifier' On Wait 25 minutes Set 'Main Bedroom / Bedroom Humidifier' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Great. For future reference, this forum is for earnest exploration of HA ideas and problem solving using the ISY. If this is an insteon product problem / rant, take it to their forum.

This is the logic for the "then" part to cycle the outlet on and off. Every 35 minutes, while the program is running, it will turn the outlet on for 30 minutes, and then off again. At the 35 minute mark, it starts over. I'm not sure what condition you would want to initiate the program, so I added a variable that would need to be set to one so the program runs. If $CycleOutlet = 1 Then Repeat Every 35 minutes Set 'Outlet' On Wait 30 minutes Set 'Outlet' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Correct. Assuming you are using a Venstar Colortouch, you also need to configure the Aux port for the Humidity call under Settings/Installation Settings/Aux output/Output Use... select Hum You can then validate the configuration using Settings/Installation Settings/Test Outputs/Hum. You will see Aux light up on the stat and hear the "thonk" from the valve, or go manually observe that its working.

+1 to mwester's thoughts. The quick start process isn't really aimed at those migrating in. It was better to cut things over in groups and recreate it all. It didn't take that long, and offered the opportunity to name things consistently and document.

Yes, though a little different implementation plan. I figure out what would be liked, do it, and then explain. We have 5 Christmas related items on lamplics. The have a schedule, but a keypad key activates them as well. It was well received, but explaining that concept in advance would have been a lot harder Though x10 never did a horrible job, Insteon gets it right every time.

If I just need basic items like swithclincs or motion sensors, and in the absence of the legacy blockbuster sales, its better to buy at Menards. Like you, I am in the twilight of my Insteon installations given the current product mix. Its become more practical to go brick and mortar by not paying waiting for shipping: Legacy SH Sales+shipping < Menards <= Current Sales+shipping < Retail+shipping

Yes, you can. http: is rest, and you can use rest to turn devices on and off The developers guide discusses how to do it.

One of the Insteon Thermostats would be the fastest, easiest path to integration with the ISY. Which thermostat depends on what type of system you have; gas vs heatpump. The Insteons can handle multi stage systems and can be controlled by the ISY. The nest, like the venstar colortouches and others, can be made to work with the IYS but additional software, and integration steps and in some cases a server are required. For the Insteon, you'll need need power provided by the furnace to power the stat, or a local 24v HVAC powersupply for each if there is not power provided. If you are gas, not heat pump, and comfortable its compatible with your system, there is a 4 pack special at smarthome right now, and their black friday 20% off is available until Tuesday

I agree that it points to problems with contract manufacturing, and the problem is qc related. It seems like the inspection and lab testing of the final product is not rigorous, or the testing methodology does not parallel powerline reality. This is neither a complicated nor sophisticated assembly. I believe visual inspection could expose component substitution of caps in this case. Its common practice for electronics manufactures to fully outsource the the manufacturing of their components in a tiered supplier model, yet deliver consistent product quality. QC is a cost of business. "You get what you inspect, not what you expect" was hand me down advice from a senior engineer years ago.

My Insteon successes: I have lamplincs and inlinelincs from the beginning of insteon, still working perfectly. I had a USB PLM on homeseer that was well into its 3rd year when I came to ISY and sold it. My current PLM is a refurb and continues to work perfectly. My Insteon failures: I had the misfortune to buy most of my keypads in 2011-2012 timeframe and had to replace most of them within the past few years. And 2 PLMs die with in weeks of plugging them in. In summary, they can build quality product, but only do it part of the time: We know that they know that they have a problem. And they know that we know that they know. Everyone knows. That was step 1, awareness. Why aren't we getting to step 2? From what I can tell, it comes down to a handful of caps and a difference in product cost < 50 cents, and this only seems to happen part of the time..

You'll need to break it in pieces, Can you use Test from Settings and Groups a number of times while having gmail open to your sent box? Does it consistently get to gmail quickly, every time. If that works consistently and quickly, its the link to verizon.

Reviewed mine and I have a mix. Older, 1st generation lamplincs do not show up red. I have a newer appliance link, it does not do this. I do have one newer lamplinc, and it does show up red like yours. Its a responder only to a keypad key, and a scene. Paul

I would suggest trying again picking v1 and/or v2 from the drop down list. Paul

How did you add it, Linking Mode, or NEW Insteon Device? There are a number of options for the Heatpump version, even multiple models, Thermostat 2.0 (?) . Have you tried manually adding it using one of these?

Did you disable them last year? I just got mine out yesterday for this year and step 1 was to re-enable. I don't want false errors the rest of the year when they are not plugged in.

Yep. Keep that cart loaded up so they see shoppers with their hand on the mouse....

Barry, based on your post, I took a stroll down memory lane to my prior HA package's forum, that I migrated from over a year ago. I found a thread querying users, like I was, as to why they hadn't upgraded to the latest base HA package version, There were 2 basic issues: The developers of the HA package led us into Insteon in the 2005 timeframe, but over-extended in zwave develpment and essentially dropped insteon and selling insteon products. Its further confusing that they let a great developer take over the insteon plugin, but then released a very minimalist insteon plugin that is not supported. The process to upgrade to the latest version of base package was the same as starting over. So I treated is as such and investigated the alternatives. I know that there are hard tradeoffs, its how they are managed that matters. Over a year later, its still clear that choosing and migrating to the ISY was the best decision I could have made. Paul

Both. The new plms are supposed to fix issues with cheap capacitors in previous versions that have been shown to fail at around 2 years. Not everyone has these failures. I had a USB PLM on homeseer that lasted well over 3 years and I was able to sell it when I came to ISY. It comes down to your ability to weather a failure. If you can afford wait to order and receive a new PLM if yours goes bad, then hang on to the $$. If your automation can't be down 4 - 7 days, then have a backup ready.