Brian H

I think I gave you some information that maybe not be 100% correct. I now remember that I was swapping 2412S/U PLM Daughter Boards and 2414S/U PLC Daughter Boards. In the 2412S/U the swap was fine. I imagine the 2413S/U {same basic daughter boards with a faster speed EEPROM memory chip} would be OK also. Even the 2414S serial board would work in the 2412S PLM. I have some early 2412S PLM unit with 2414S Serial Daughter Boards in them. The added RTC clock chip and battery where ignored along with the much larger memory size. The USB board between a 2414U and 2412U would not work. As they have a different baud rate.

The 2413UH is the purchased HouseLinc version of the PLM. It has a different Subcategory ID number in the main boards firmware. To the ISY994i it may not matter. It did if you tried to use a 2413U with the purchased version of HouseLinc. I have swapped Serial and USB PLM Daughter Boards and for me they worked. It may not work but should not emit the magic electronic smoke.

I have seen the earlier hardware power line only Insteon Modules. Reported to be more prone to power line issues. Get into a unknown state.. That an AC power cycle reset clearing the unknown state. The troubleshooting chart in the full users manuals would say to do a AC power cycle reset for locked up and strange acting devices. Noise on the AC power from storms could be a factor in your modules issues.

Your decoding the capacitor markings look correct. 8.25 uF and 4.75 uF. I double recommend getting capacitors rated for use on AC Power Line connections. My thoughts on the Triac in the FanLinc is they use them to switch the different capacitor into the Fan Load Output. Check you fans wiring thoroughly. They could be connecting the caps to different winding taps for some speeds or changing direction by swapping wires.

Thank you for reinforcing the data posted, in this very long thread. I too have had 2443 Hardware V2 Access Points {V1 hardware are the older design with power transformer supply} have the same bad caps and very low unregulated 12 volt supplies. Usually around 18-20 VDC. Mine where <7VDC and the logic supply IC was out of regulation. Fixed a few myself. Even in my newest {V2.3} PLM they are still using the same questionable brand caps. C7 and C13 are still 100uF but upped the working voltage to 50VDC. Older hardware 2413 PLM and hardware V2 Access Points have the 10uF 35VDC C7 and C13. They are mounted horizontally on the PCB and held with a glob of component glue. Physically to large to mount normally vertically to the PCB. My V2.3 also has a new RS232 interface chip on the Daughter Board. Has a IEC61000-4-2 ESD Protection rating.

Many of the older power line only Insteon modules. Used a power line derived type power supply. With a capacitor to limit the current into a Zenner Diode regulated supply. They could get confused by some line noise and needed a power cycle reset. I can also verify the 2456D and 2456S modules have the +5 volt Logic supply connected directly to the AC Line input pin and logic regulation all in the common side.

If all three Blue LEDs are on. That is not correct. Here is some UDI Wiki information on the front panel LEDs. http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Main_Page#Front_Panel_LEDs.2FLights Before calling the ISY994i defective. I would also suggest the power up sequences mentioned to see if anything changed. I would suspect the 2413S PLM before the ISY994i. Unless you where counting on Insteon RF only and the PLM was also on a surge suppressor or UPS. It is directly connected to the incoming AC power. I have also seen some indications the RS232 IC in the 2413S PLM was sometimes an issue and I know they changed it to an ESD rated IC in the hardware 2.3 and above.

Not necessarily the PLM. Do a search here. There are a few All On, All Off and maybe random changes. In threads here. Not related to a PLM.

Just make a note. The HUB's Insteon ID will be in the Alert Module and the ISY994i will not know it. If for any reason you may restore the Alert Module with the ISY994i it may over write the HUB's ID.

If the valve has limit switches or can be held open or closed with the 24VAC. The 2450 I/OLinc NO and NC relay outputs and a 24VAC supply should work. Reason I ask about limit switches or holding open and closed. Is 24VAC will be active on either the Open or Closed wiring all the time. So it has to stop with a internal limit switch or designed to be held open and closed. I would imagine if you had to. You could use an On/Off module to control power to the 24VAC supply and then the 2450 to open and close the valve itself. As Stu asked. If you can provide a link to the valve or its model number. It would be a big help. I did a web search. I found a manual for a PE24VA Pool Valve. If your is a PV24VA or similar. It has Limit Switches to stop it when the valve is open or closed. So a 24VAC supply and a 2450 I/OLinc should control it.

Did a quick search. You can find all kinds of water flow sensors. You could find one that could pulse a I/OLinc Sensor Input or maybe the the external input on an Open/Closed sensor. Some have sealed Hall Effect sensor that may work. Others have small impellers the move on water flow. Both had pulsed outputs.

May not matter in this case. You are using the older ISY99i/Pro with the latest firmware it can accommodate? Did the 2441TH and all the modules add correctly? Standard question these days. Is the PLM the older 2412S or the present 2413S. If a 2413S how old is it? They have a reputation to fail at about two years and a few months.

The review section of the 2413S page. Indicated they had identified a problem component and V2.3 should have the fix. I believe it was the RS232 IC as the latest one has a ESD classification . The C7 and C13 are now 50 volt and component glued against the PCB. As they where a tight fit in the normal vertical position.

In April 2017 I received a 2413S PLM V2.3. Date Code:4216.

Time will tell. My V2.3. Date Code:4216. I see the same questionable brand Fujucon capacitors. Just C7 and C13 are now 100uF 50V and to fit them in. Laying sideways with a small gob of component glue holding them. As the space is too tight for them vertically in the normal through hole pads on the PCB.

I had seen vague reports of the serial chip on the daughter board having issues. Not sure if the brand was changed or normal production parts availability change. It is now a TI brand MAX232EI on my latest recently purchased V2.3 PLM. It has ESD rating I don't believe the older ones had.

I don't remember seeing any official statement from Smarthome or Smartlabs on the power supply issue corrections. I know V2.1 had C7 and C13 changed to 100uF/35V. My V2.3 Date Code 4216 changed C7 and C13 to 100uF/50 volts and they are horizontal stuck to the PCB with some component glue. Due to size maybe. I did see in the Reviews section for the 2413S. Smarthome said they had found a problem component and it was changed in V2.3. I also vaguely remember when the 2413S was back ordered and the serial chip on the daughter board was mentioned. The V2.3 no longer has the ST232 RS232 interface chip. It is now a TI MAX232E. With IEC61000-4-2 Protection. Could be just a prats availability thing or was an issue.

The Sensor LED is part of a pull up on the Sensor Input and can start to glow if pulled partway to the Ground pin. Mine will sense an on at about .90 volts measured to ground.

Same base 2413 PLM main board in the 2413U,2413S and hardware V2 2443 Access Points. Same capacitors are in all three. Later hardware had C7 and C13 changed from the 10uF/35V to 100uF/35 volt. The latest V2.3 has 100uF/50V but due to size. Laying horizontally against the the board with a small dab of component glue to keep them from moving. I would go with 100uF 35 Volt or 50 Volt even if my originals are 10uF/35 volt. Only exception would be the original 2413 hardware V1.0. They only had one capacitor on the board. They added a coil and capacitor found in later revisions. As rework hanging freely in the air with fly wire jumpers to the main board. I also had to do my pair of 2443 Access Points. Flaky operation and LED real dim

Week 29 of 2016 The failure clock is while powered. Reports usually show anytime after two years and a few months. Some users have had over three years it varies.

Ten amps at 120 volts. Is 1200 watts. There is no Insteon dimmer type with over a 1000 watt rating.

It may depend on if it is an Amazon sold and fulfilled or an Amazon Marketplace Store. I got mine from Amazon sold and fulfilled. It was a hardware 2.3 with a very recent Date Code. I believe it was a few dollars more than the one in your link. Though the Amazon prices seem to side up and down on a daily basis. I can't say if the Marketplace has the latest hardware revisions. I know in the Smarthome reviews of the PLM. They indicated 2.3 had a fix for a component they found was a problem. I know my 2.3 has a ESD rated RS232 IC on the Daughter Board while my 2.1 has an ST232 on it. Caps where the same brand but C7 and C13 are now 100uF 50 volt laying flat on the board with component glue holding them from moving. As they where large to go vertical. While my 2.1 where 100uF 35 volt. Depending on the age of your old one. It may have the original C7 and C13 of 10uF/35 Volt. They later went to 100Uf/35 volt. Now 100uF/ 50 volt. Yes there have been incremental changes as the revisions where made. I believe it ends tonight at 11:59 PM PDT. There is a 20% off sale on Insteon modules new and refurbished. I did see the 2413S PLM on the sales page for the 20% sale.

Thank you for the information on the choke you used and how it was installed. You used one of the two coils in the assembly? Not a bad price. $6.30 compared to the ones, if you can even find one, being sold by the dimmer manufacturers. Only thing to consider is the ten amp rating with regard to the total current the loads are using.

If you have any of the hardware 2.0 and above 2443 Access Points. They are built with the same 2413 main board. They also also fail shortly after the 2 year old mark. Both of mine started sending garbage messages and the LED on the side was real dim. I had to repair both of mine with the same power supply repairs. My findings on what was changed in the hardware 2.3 is in the post 329 of this thread.

Did you purchase a ISY994i with a Z-Wave option installed? If not you can add it if you use a Z-Wave protocol lock. http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Z-Wave:_Ordering/Assembly_Instructions