
Brian H
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Link count=0, PLM Info/Status in diagnostics shows in safe mode or both. The PLM is failing. See if Larry's procedure changes anything temporarily. Until a new PLM is purchased.
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All the battery operated Insteon Modules. Go into a power saving mode and have to be woke up by the set button. So if you have any other models. Like a leak sensor or open/closed module. They also need to be woken up with their set button first. You also need to have Jumper #5 On. As it enables Remote Software Management. If you have the ISY994i Pro Version. Making sure Automatic Writes to battery devices is enabled. Makes it easier. I had mine off and doing manual writes after changes was not as easy.
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Thanks for the photos. May help others who have not seen the internal photos in the FCC Database. In the stripped 2457D2 chassis. Used for the Alarm Module. They left the larger sounders leads much longer and loosely coiled inside the front case. The stripped 2457D2 chassis. Used in the Range Extender also has the short leaded small sounder.
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Your first Thumbnail shows the Motion Sensors firmware as v.00 and automatic writes to battery devices disabled. The v.00 maybe part of the issue. As its features may not be known. I don't have any Motion Sensors in use right now. I did add one as a test and a firmware revision was shown. I have the Pro version and had the automatic writes to battery devices turned off. Even though I had the motion sensor awake. The options changes did not work until I enabled automatic writes to battery devices. If your motion sensor has the two adjustment pots. Verify that Jumper #5 is On its pins. It enables remote options changes. My old ones ignored Jumper #5 as they where too old to have the adjustment pots.
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I doubt more Dual Band modules close to them would make things worse. You can do a rough test by just turning off their power or unplugging them.
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The CM15A also has a higher output power line signal. Over a PLM. So some areas of you home may have been OK and now can't be reached. Do you have an X10 phase coupler between the two incoming power lines into the home? If the PLM is on the same power circuit as you computer equipment. You may want to try the extension cord power to the PLM to see if things change. As that type of equipment. Frequently can absorb some of the power line signals. Insteon messages are passed from module to module. X10 is not and has to go from the sender all the way to the receiver. Insteon modules have a power line transmitter in them. That will absorb power line signals over what a receiver only type absorbs. Here are some X10 troubleshooting tutorials that are a good source of information. http://jvde.us/x10_troubleshooting.htm
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Sloop and I go way back to the early days on Insteon. He is not a troll. To when instead of admitting there where Insteon issues. Smartlabs Engineers tried to say we didn't know what we where talking about. To shift their hardware failures blame on to the end users.
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If the washers and dryers have fancy electronic controls. It is possible they are signal suckers or noise makers. More likely signal suckers. As manufacturers try to stop their electronic noise from getting onto the power lines with a simple capacitor across the incoming power. Works great for their noise but also sucks up Insteon and X10 signals also.
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What is sending the C1 on command to be received by the program? Sending an X10 C1 Status ON will not turn the modules On. Are your WS467's new enough to have Soft Start? Where they ramp On and Off?
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Might be interesting if you could find the ToggleLinc's Part Number. Maybe on a sticker on the front of the module. Not sure with out looking. If any had the BoosterLinc feature that was known to cause Insteon Issues. I found some old manuals. The 23890 ToggleLinc Dimmer and 23893 ToggleLinc On/Off modules have BoosterLinc technology. Manuals indicate BoosterLinc Technology can be turned On and Off. Quick test. Turn it off. By removing its power and see if anything changes. If you gently pull the set button on it out until it clicks. That is the Air Gap Power Switch and it disconnects the power. Only caution is after the test. Do NOT push the Set Button past its normal place and all the way in. That would do a factory reset and you would have to reprogram it again.
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http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-994i_Series:Migrating_To_Your_ISY-994i
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I find the J Status Request in some of your log posts interesting. An X10 J Status Request is all 1 bits in the data stream. 11111111. That was why I had asked about a active x10 repeater. That you verified you don't have. You don't have any Smarthome X10 compatible modules with BoosterLinc technologies or the rare two way X10 Modules?
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Link Management Tab Add new Insteon Device Put the six digit Insteon ID the Address Line. Like 12.B3.FF {your devices ID} Give it a name in the Name Line. I believe if blank it used the devices ID. Device Type Leave at Auto Discover. Use the default Remove Existing Links Hit OK.
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For the Factory Reset. Holding the set button while plugging it in and holding the set button until the beeping stops. Is perfectly legal and the only way that works, with some versions of the firmware. Like the 2457D2 that does NOT have the Flow Chart method in it. My 2457D2 Lamplincs do not have the Flow Chart Method and I also have to use the set Button Routine. If yours does follow the Flow Chart Method. Then use it. It sounds like you used the Start Linking method to try and add the LampLinc. You may want to try the Auto Discover method. That way you input the six digit Insteon ID. That way the manual pushing of the modules Set Button is not needed. I see some X10 messages in your Event Viewer log. Do you by chance have an active X10 Repeater/Coupler in your setup? If so do you know the model?
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OH. I looked at your earlier post and missed the PLM was not on the UPS. The UPS can be one of the signal suckers Teken pointed out. Its AC input filter will absorb Insteon power line signals as noise. I have my UPS on the filtered output of a FilterLinc and the 2413S PLM in its pass through outlet on the front. It is possible with the extension cord. You where on a power feed with less noise or signal suckers. Sometimes outlets close to each other can be on a completely different breaker. Maybe you can verify they are on the same breaker or different ones. The four tap communications tests {called Beacon Test in some manuals}. You tap the set button four times and then observe the LEDs on other modules. To see if they are flashing Red or Green. Some of the newer modules only can do the communications tests through the Flow Chart method shown in the modules users manuals.
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Get the PLM off of the UPS or isolated by maybe a Filterlinc. They have power line conditioning filters that absorb Insteon power line signals If it is on the AC Input side. The filter will absorb the power line signals. If it is on the battery backup side the Input filter will absorb the Insteon power line signals. In both cases the RF Insteon signals may not be reaching other Dual Band Module that can then pass the power line signals on.
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Symptoms indicate a hardware failure. Relay On/Off LED changing state but the relay not working. Could be a defective relay or circuit driving it. Sensor LED On/Off but no detected change sent back.. Also sounds like a hardware failure.
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Some of the early 2412S PLMs . Where made from reworked 2414S PLCs and had their Serial Daughter Board in them. I have a few with the RTC Clock chip and battery backup in them. Along with the mostly unused large 24LC256 EEPROMs, used for both link database and downloaded program storage.
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The communications between the PLM and the ISY994i is RS232 not TTL. http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/17707-isy994i-to-plm-serial-port-ttl-or-rs232/
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Larry. The IM {Insteon Modem aka PLM} does not use Xon/Xoff or any other control characters. Command echoing. Is used between the ISY Interface and the PLM serial port. Developers guide explains how it it supposed to work. I can see problems if each part of the serial exchange does not wait for the proper message echoed back. http://cache.insteon.com/developer/2413dev-042007-en.pdf
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Has to be a 2413S. As the communications between the ISY994i controller and the PLM is serial. The 2413U is a USB type. You may want to see if a Restore PLM will temporarily fix things. I agree 28 links is way too small.
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In the diagnostics tests. How many links are in the PLM? Very few or none is a sign the PLM is going bad. Is the LED on the PLM on at about a normal level? I would suspect a v1.3 1329 maybe starting to fail.
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If the module is Off the LED is Red. In the Beacon test if the module you are looking at is flashing Green it is on the opposite phase. Periodically the module doing the Beacon Test pauses and restarts. The module you are looking at momentarily goes Red as it was Off before the test was started. Then flashes Green again when the test starts again. Another possibility is the Insteon RF signal to the module you are looking at during the test is marginal. The led may act that way. I have a 2443 Access Point that the led stops flashing if I stand in front of it. When the test is run from the Access Point in the other end of the house.
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It should. The Range Extender they sell. Is a 2457D2 PCB with out the dimmer components. In a case with no external output access. Some here say get a 2457D2 even if you only need Range Extending. Make sense as if you ever need an extra 2457D2 you have it and the Range Extender can't do any load control.
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It may work but dimming a LED not made to be dimmed. Will shorten its life and maybe do damage to the dimmer itself.