Brian H

They may have been scrambled by the power glitch. If it happens again. You may want to try a power cycle to do a power up restart. Pulling out the Air Gap Switch and waiting maybe fifteen seconds then pushing the Air Gap Switch back to its normal position not all the way in to do a Factory Reset. Will do a power up reset.

I have not seen any schematics of any of the 2413 devices of any hardware revision. Just the real old 2414 PLC and 2412 PLM I have seen. The PCB is a multi layer board. With copper runs on top, bottom and the center layer. The - pad of C7 where C7- and C13- are connect to. Is connected to the center common ground plane. So you may not find a top or bottom run it was originally connected to. Sounds like the plated through hole actually burned away from the center ground plane. On the solder side of the PCB. The - connection of C8 is also the power supply common. Maybe you can put the C7- and C13- through the original hole where the pads use to be and then do a insulated jumper to where the C8- pad is on the bottom.

I would use caution with a 5 volt 200mah USB charger you referred to. 200mah sounds like a charging rate and the voltage will go up and down to maintain the 200mah charge rate. The 5 volt 200mA rating is most important with unregulated power supplies. If the load was less than 200mA the 5 volts would be high and if the load was greater than 200mA the 5 volts would be low. A fully regulated 5 volt wall wart rated at 200mA or greater would probably work fine. I use a 2.4 amp wall wart for my Raspberry Pi3 and it is not loaded close to 2.4 amps but the output is still correct.

Anyone here using Insteon long enough. To remember the 2454D SocketLinc Dimmer V2? Looked like an over sized X10 LM15A Socket Rocket. Only Insteon. It always powered up to 100% ON after a power loss and restoration.

The 5 volt logic supply is a small linear regulator. Feed by the unregulated 12 volts that is normally around 20 volts DC. When the caps where bad. I have seen the 12 volt supply go as low as 6 volts {I did not scope it for noise} and the regulator drop out.

You may want to wait for an official reply for a ISY994i. The ISY99i information says 5V to 30V DC. 300 mA. http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:Quick_Start_Guide#Requirements The current rating was updated to 1 amp as the added boards like Z-Wave or ZigBee needed to be taken into account. The one in my ISY994i kit was 5V, 1 Amp. 5.5mm X 2.1mm, center +, DC connector.

If your old setup used a 2412S it did supply power to the ISY Interface. No external one was needed. The 2413S does not supply power to the ISY Interface. If it is a new one, there should have been a power supply in the ISY Interfaces box.

Can't do much about the battery operated devices. If they didn't go into power saving mode. The battery life would be real short. If you have any Insteon modules that are old enough to only do the original I1 messaging. They can take for ever to update the link database in the module. With memory peeks and pokes.

From what I have seen in other threads. I understand that some data was received. Looks like it will be in the 5.? firmware.

Only the old discontinued for many years now 2412S supplied power through the serial cable. Users that had to replace an old 2412S with a 2413S did have to get the external supply. Are you sure you didn't get the external supply in the box with the ISY994i? The UDI sales site says power supply included. https://www.universal-devices.com/sales/ I took a look at the Smarthome ISY994i offerings. In the What Is Included tab. There is a power supply listed even for the standalone ISY994i with out PLM.

I have seen them adjust the list price on a refurbished LampLinc up by $10.00 then sell it for $15 off. That price. While a brand new one with a 2 year warranty was $5 more than the refurbished LampLinc reduced price. Meaning saving $5 got me a 30 day warranty over a 2 year one.

Don't try a Alert Module for a Beacon test. Maybe changed in present ones. Mine is an early purchase. Mine will work correctly if it is the one doing the tests to other modules. If it is receiving from others doing the tests. The LED does not show correctly When the LED is Green. Modules on both phases flash it Green. When the LED is Red. Modules on both phases flash it Red. To be fair. There was no mention of a Beacon or Communications Test in the manuals I downloaded for it. So it may have been a known issue. At the time I bought mine.

I suspect Home Depot and Amazon stress HUB compatibility as that is what they carry and not the ISY994i line of controllers. Your firmware version and UI should match in version number. You can get the proper UI on the firmware 4.5.1 announcement or get 4.5.3 (RC2) the latest released version. The latest firmware should support all the Insteon devices except a few odd ones. Like the Alert Module.

We have seen a few reports of brand new 2413S PLMs failing in a month or two.

If it worked for two years after changing the caps and is now having issues. I will add my vote for the caps going bad again. Depending on how bad the power supply voltage is. The LED may still be On and it will not function.

If it is completely dead with no LEDs On. I would second the recommendation of checking the wall wart power supply first. On the off chance the ISY994i is completely fried and you get a new one. UDI should be able to transfer most of optional purchased options modules to the new one. By giving them the old uuid for the old one and the uuid of the replacement.

Thank you for the update. Glad it is working for you.

In your original post. You asked about the relay being On or Off when linked to the ISY994i. I don't believe it matters. It does matter if you are doing manual set button linking. I tested a 2450 and a table top mounted KeypadLinc. Spare button A and B. Depending on the relay being on or off when linked. I could have button A turn it on when button A was on and button B turn it off when button B was turned on.

I looked at three 2450 Users Manuals that I had archived. 02/10/11,04/07/11,10/20/14. All three used the same descriptions. I tried a 2450 with Houselinc and a spare 2413S PLM. I could not test On and 0% as I don't believe it allowed such a setting.

UDI and Smartlabs {Manufacturing division that holds the Insteon Patents}. Are two separate independent companies. I think Smartlabs would be responsible for the documentation. Though Smarthome {Sales division} maybe involved with the documentation. I have the older documentation archived and may see it the older ones where clearer.

Well I am a retired Electronic Technician. That did some work for the Electronic Engineers at the very small place I use to work in. Have an FCC General Radio Telephone License and fixed two way radios for awhile. I am familiar with the X10 devices and the loud clunking ratchet switches. I am one of the Community Advisors on the X10 Forums.

WOW. That manual is confusing on pages 4-5. I could not see that information not being clear. Calling the relay open and closed is a poor choice of words and confusing. Relay Off {not activated} and On {Activated} would be a better describe the way the relay outputs work. In electronic terms. The Normally Open and Normally Closed condition are in relay not being activated state. Even if the IOLinc was unplugged. The Normally Closed set of contacts would be connected to each other and the Normally Open would not be connected. The LED on mine is dim when the relay is not activated (off). Normally Closed is closed and Normally Open is open. The LED on mine is bright when the relay is activated (on). Normally Closed it open and Normally Open is closed.

I did a test with five Insteon modules. 2456S3 ApplianceLinc 2450 I/OLinc Early I1 Hardware 2450 I/OLinc I2CS Hardware Firmware v.41 2457D2 LampLinc 2635-222R On/Off Module Added all five to the Administrative Console. Made a Scene called Test. Added all five modules to the Test Scene Set all modules to On 0% in the Test Scene The two 2450 I/OLincs turned Off when the Scene was turned On and On when the scene was turned Off. The other three modules. Stayed Off when the Scene was turned On and stayed Off when the Scene was turned Off. So as you suspected the 2450 I/OLIncs act different than most other modules. I did try using Off in place of the On 0% for the 2450 modules. With the same results.

That is good news. I am glad you are now back in business.

I have not seen any different components in the V2.1 but it is new enough {still in warranty} that I have not taken it out of the case. To look at the back side of the PCB where many of the power supply parts are mounted. I do have two hardware V1.0 where they had rework on it. Looked like they only had one capacitor on the unregulated 12 volts, not the Pi filter, and had to wire in the second capacitor and coil. To make the Pi filter. All three parts are just hanging off of the PCB. One of the two is pushing it even closer. Had 25 volt capacitors. Unregulated 12 volts is closer to 18.5 volts. That C7 and C13 are the filters. Somewhere in this thread I believe there are a few photos of a V1.0.