Brian H

As LeeG pointed out in your other thread. The EZFlora is built on the same base PLM board as the 2413S/U or older ones the 2412S/U main board. With their daughter board. If yours are on the 2413 main board with the EZFlora daughter board. It will have the same issues as the 2413S and poor quality capacitors. There are some post on the Smartenit forums indicating the PLM base board is usually the problem. If they are now getting the base hardware version 2 PLM boards. It should then have the updated power supply components.

If the PLM is over two years old. I would suspect it is on the way out. They have a reputation of failing. Check the LED and see if it is On and Green. If the link database is corrupt or is empty. If the ISY reports it is in the Safe Mode. Both are indications the PLM is failing. Having to constantly reboot. Also indicates the PLM is failing.

C8. The 10uf/16V is in the 5 volt logic power supply. From a linear regulator. Mouser 647-USV1C100MFD. Fits fine. It is a general purpose high temperature capacitor. Not a low ESR type. In the 5 volt circuit should not needed. C7 and C13 10uF/50V are the most critical. As they are in the small switching supply producing the unregulated 12 volts. That also feeds the input of the 5 volt supply. C11. 100uF/25V is in the zero Crossing circuit. If it goes bad. The signal timing will be bad. One correction to a previous post I made. C7 is on the input side of the small pi filter not C13.

I used the instructions LeeG gave. IMeter Solo Hardware V1.1 1044. Firmware reported by ISY v.87 My 2423A1 IMeter Solo was added to my firmware v.4.3.1 ISY994i but I am not sure it was added correctly. Both the 2423A1 and PLM link information showed one entry. 0: 0FEF8 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Also showed it was a responder to no devices. Though when I did a Query on it. It shows the 100 watt light bulb I had on it and the accumulated current. The reset command did zero the accumulated current information.

As LeeG pointed out. The contents may not mean much. Maybe it is the way Windows is handling it. A Zip file inside a Zip File. I put one of my backups in a test folder. Unzipped it. Then unzipped the file inside it. It had a folder called CONF Inside it was list of files and a few more folders. That have no meaning to me.

You may want to look at the PLM Link Tables and see if it is almost or completely empty. One of the early signs of PLM failures was Link Tables corrupt or almost empty. Tools Diagnostics Show PLM Link Tables. Any 2413S Hardware 1.0 and <2.0. Over two years old is suspect for failures. My 1.5 lasted three months over the two year warranty. If a restore fixes the issues. I would get a new PLM on order as the restore most times was a temporary fix.

A factory reset should remove everything. Including an X10 addresses in a module. I have in tests. Has a different X10 address on each button on a KPL and a factory reset removed all of them. Though mine are older and who knows exactly what the latest firmware does.

I would also say do a modem restore. One of the symptoms of a PLM getting flaky. The Link Database was the links disappeared.

Many of the Smartenit Modules are built on the base PLM board with their own daughter boards.

I use to get the notice on my ISY99i. It did not happen if I had the beta copy installed and then UDI called it released.

Anything over two years old is the time they start failing. Mine was two years three months. Started like yours is. Power down for an hour or so and it would again work. It will get worse and getting a new one before it dies completely. Would be a good thing to do. Slightly off topic. I have a 2443 Hardware version 2.5 Access Point. It died this morning; no LED indications. Built on the same 2413S PLM main board. I will be looking at it today but suspect it will be the same set of capacitors that killed my 2413S PLM.

The UDI Wiki is also a wealth of knowledge. You may want to look it over also. http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

I believe the ISY controller only checks for a PLM at power up or on a reboot. So it is possible the PLM had failed before the Network Module was installed and when the reboot was done. The PLM was no longer responding. New PLM is needed but if less than two years old. Use your two year warranty to get a replacement. The present hardware V2.0 and above. Have a beefed up power supply. Proper way to power up. Is plug in the PLM and wait until it has initialized. Thirty seconds is more than enough. Then power up the ISY controller. If the PLMs LED is off. Another indication the PLM has failed. Mine when it failed. Would work maybe thirty minutes and quit. If I removed the power and then waited for maybe thirty minutes. It again would work for a short time. I did the replacement caps fix and it has been stable for a few months again.

I have seen no Insteon modules with a built in filter on the output or filter with a line cord.

C13 and C7 are both in the unregulated 12 volt supply. Typically around 20 volts DC. Is your capacitor checker able to read the capacitors ESR? C13 is directly on the LNK354 switching regulator's output. Running at 200KHz. So C13 and C7 could have a bad ESR besides the low capacity you found on your C7. I didn't mark locations of the caps when I removed them from my HW1.5, 2413S. That would run for a short time and the unregulated 12 volts slowly dropped to 7 volts. The two 10uf/35v where both within the 20% tolerance most caps have. One was 11.36uf and the other was 8.8uf. I suspect mine had developed a bad ESR and got worse as they warmed up.

Michel; They have not even updated their sales site or manuals yet. So you are not the only one in the dark.

It will be interesting to see if another firmware v.43 module has the Multi Scene removed. Could be the sales page and manuals are not updated yet. As the manual I just downloaded was published on 05/21/2013.

The confusion on magnetic sensors is depends on the application. As an Electronic Technician. I refer to a magnetic switches resting state with no magnet present. Magnetic Switches when called out in security applications. Is in the state when the zone is not violated. So my NO switch when in a security setup is a NC. As it is closed when the magnet is next to it and not the zone is not violated. Some vendors are not too clear on their descriptions.

In the Diagnostics Tab. Tools. PLM Info/Status. Does it show connected or In Safe Mode? You may want to try. Powering down the ISY994i and the PLM. Then power back up the PLM and allow it to initialize. Then power the ISY994i back up. Power cycling the PLM and ISY994i will reset both of them. How old is your 2413S PLM? The 2413S has a reputation of failing. Many times around two years old.

I did a very limited test. From what I saw. The power line only ApplianceLinc was effected when connected to the filtered outlet of a FilterLinc. One added Hop used. The Filtered output of a FilterLinc may effect modules on its output but I suspect each unique installation would be different. 2456S3 AppplianceLinc: Query while on the output of a FilterLinc. Sun 04/12/2015 03:58:43 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 00 FB B3 0F 19 00 Sun 04/12/2015 03:58:43 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.FB.B3 0F 19 00 06 LTSREQ (LIGHT) Sun 04/12/2015 03:58:43 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 00.FB.B3 19.70.1A 27 00 00 (00) Sun 04/12/2015 03:58:43 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 00.FB.B3-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Sun 04/12/2015 03:58:43 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [0 FB B3 1] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 04/12/2015 03:58:43 PM : [ 0 FB B3 1] ST 0 Sun 04/12/2015 03:58:43 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [0 FB B3 1] [OL] [255] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 04/12/2015 03:58:43 PM : [ 0 FB B3 1] OL 255 Sun 04/12/2015 03:58:43 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [0 FB B3 1] [RR] [31] uom=0 prec=-1 Query on the AC outlet directly. Sun 04/12/2015 03:58:43 PM : [ 0 FB B3 1] RR 31 Sun 04/12/2015 03:59:21 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 00 FB B3 0F 19 00 Sun 04/12/2015 03:59:21 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.FB.B3 0F 19 00 06 LTSREQ (LIGHT) Sun 04/12/2015 03:59:21 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 00.FB.B3 19.70.1A 2B 00 00 (00) Sun 04/12/2015 03:59:21 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 00.FB.B3-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 04/12/2015 03:59:21 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [0 FB B3 1] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 04/12/2015 03:59:21 PM : [ 0 FB B3 1] ST 0 Sun 04/12/2015 03:59:21 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [0 FB B3 1] [OL] [255] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 04/12/2015 03:59:21 PM : [ 0 FB B3 1] OL 255 Sun 04/12/2015 03:59:21 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [0 FB B3 1] [RR] [31] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 04/12/2015 03:59:21 PM : [ 0 FB B3 1] RR 31 2457D2R Dual Band Lamplinc I added to the test: Query on the output of a FilterLinc. Sun 04/12/2015 04:05:15 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 26 F2 E6 0F 19 00 Sun 04/12/2015 04:05:15 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 26.F2.E6 0F 19 00 06 LTSREQ (LIGHT) Sun 04/12/2015 04:05:16 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 26.F2.E6 19.70.1A 2B 00 00 (00) Sun 04/12/2015 04:05:16 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 26.F2.E6-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 04/12/2015 04:05:16 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [26 F2 E6 1] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 04/12/2015 04:05:16 PM : [ 26 F2 E6 1] ST 0 Sun 04/12/2015 04:05:16 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [26 F2 E6 1] [OL] [255] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 04/12/2015 04:05:16 PM : [ 26 F2 E6 1] OL 255 Sun 04/12/2015 04:05:16 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [26 F2 E6 1] [RR] [28] uom=0 prec=-1 Query on the AC outlet directly. Sun 04/12/2015 04:05:16 PM : [ 26 F2 E6 1] RR 28 Sun 04/12/2015 04:06:30 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 26 F2 E6 0F 19 00 Sun 04/12/2015 04:06:30 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 26.F2.E6 0F 19 00 06 LTSREQ (LIGHT) Sun 04/12/2015 04:06:30 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 26.F2.E6 19.70.1A 2B 00 00 (00) Sun 04/12/2015 04:06:30 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 26.F2.E6-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 04/12/2015 04:06:30 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [26 F2 E6 1] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 04/12/2015 04:06:30 PM : [ 26 F2 E6 1] ST 0 Sun 04/12/2015 04:06:30 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [26 F2 E6 1] [OL] [255] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 04/12/2015 04:06:30 PM : [ 26 F2 E6 1] OL 255 Sun 04/12/2015 04:06:30 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [26 F2 E6 1] [RR] [28] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 04/12/2015 04:06:30 PM : [ 26 F2 E6 1] RR 28

2456S3 ApplianceLinc not the new Dual Band On Off Module? Yes the FilterLinc will block most, if not all of the power line Insteon commands to the ApplianceLinc. If it is on the filtered outlet. As it is power line commands only. It will effect how the ApplianceLinc works. Also any other Insteon Module on the filtered output. Would be effected by the loss of power line signals. I have no Dual Band On Off modules or any other Dual Band Devices, in use at the present time. So I am not sure if an RF command may work in that case. Are you having issues with a load on the ApplianceLinc. Like it will go On when load is Off but not Off when the load is On and making power line noise?

Value isn't everything. The two 10uf/35 volt ones in the raw +12 volt supply can have an increased ESR. Cause issues, with the 200 kHz. LNK354's Switching Power Supply IC's output frequency. Measured my old ones. With an MCM 72-10410True RMS Meter. 6.8uf/250V 6.31uf 100uf/25V 102.9uf 10uf/16V 10.53uf 10uf/35V 11.36uf 10uf/35V 8.84uf. The one I suspect killed my raw +12 volts. The 100uf/25 volt. I believe is in a small power line derived DC supply for the Zero Crossing Detector. If it is bad all the PLMs timing will be messed up. As Zero Crossing is used to time all the power line transmissions and received data.

If you think that is a loud click. You have never experienced the ratchet On Off switch in an X10 module. That was one of the reasons I switched to the earlier Smarthome X10 compatible On Off modules.

They should be 105C temperature rated and C7 & C13 LOW ESR for things like switching power supplies. C7 and C13 10uf/35 volts ones. Directly on the unregulated +12 volts. From the transformer driven by the switching power supply IC. Being the most critical. Higher voltage rating usually is OK if it doesn't make the capacitor too large to fit.

I have a notebook and write down every modules part number, ID, date code and reported firmware in the My Lighting Tree. I also put a unique number on it. Like IN120 also in the notebooks list.