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I have had an ongoing problem since I purchased the ISY from SH about 2 years ago that I haven’t been able to rectify. The ISY was an 99i but have since upgraded it to 99ir pro with the addition of the ir module and online pro upgrade and is running v2.8.9. The plm is 2412s v.92 If I remove power from the plm (ISY’s plm) for more than 8-10 seconds then reconnect power there is a good chance that the ISY will freeze up during the boot process (seems like just before it would normally start to query devices). This happens probably 5 out of 10 times. Usually, but not always, if I cycle the power for less than 5 seconds the ISY will boot up properly. There has been no indication of any rhyme or reason to when or how it will freeze up, or why. The freeze up has been worse in the last 6 months than it was at first. When the ISY freezes up the Pwr, TX and RX LED’s are all lit solid. The wiki describes the condition of RX lit solid as a problem with the plm or cable, but it doesn’t describe the TX LED on solid or both RX and TX on solid. I have replaced the plm with my other new spare, no difference. I have also replaced the cable twice with no difference either. I also have added the wall power supply to feed the ISY power but that didn’t help either. The error log doesn't indicate a problem either. At first it seemed it would only occur when unplugging the plm, not when rebooting from the admin console but a couple of days ago it did freeze when I rebooted from the console. It hasn’t been a huge deal but my fear is one day when I am out of town and there is a power interruption……. Any suggestions? Thanks, Tim

Just upgraded, so far all is good. Odd is I was expecting to see v2.8.8 as others reported but the version in about and the backup I just did shows 2.8.9! Thanks UDI Team! Tim

mjtyson, Out of curiosity what was the solution? Thanks, Tim

Ditto. Thanks, Tim

tim2u, I would suggest checking with a couple of WB stations in your area to see how often they update their data. All of the stations in my area only update about once an hour (1 is even longer between updates). Lee, I like that idea of the radio with the output to trigger. Do you have it set up to trigger an IO or EZIO? Was the radio very expensive? Thanks Tim

Hi Rand, Thanks for pointing that out. But for some reason if you use a left arrow and a right arrow in the same post the software of the forum completely changes the print of whatever is inbetween the arrows, like happened in the first part of your last post (<40>40). I was attempting to figure out what part of the code was making that happen and I forgot to change the values of the second code back to the original value. The second code should look like Sprklr Cold 40 Up Ini: If Module 'Climate' Temperature > 40 °F And Program 'Sprklr Cold Flg' is True Then Run Program 'Sprklr Cold Flg' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Thanks, Tim

Once downloaded from the site upgrade went smoothly. All programs seem to be running fine. Once again, Thanks UDI for your continued outstanding support!!! Tim

This time it downloaded fine. Thanks, Tim

Having trouble downloading the update from your server. The download gets to about 12% then hangs, forever. I have tried it on 2 computers here. Not sure if its my network your yours. Thanks, Tim

Here are 3 programs I use to make sure the updating of WB doesn't refire programs. Sprklr Cold 40 Dwn Ini: If Module 'Climate' Temperature <= 40 °F And Program 'Sprklr Cold Flg' is False Then Run Program 'Sprklr Cold Flg' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Sprklr Cold 40 Up Ini: (for some reason using the arrow symbol in the second program causes the post of code to malfunction so the "more than" symbol is replaced with "over") If Module 'Climate' Temperature is over = 41 °F And Program 'Sprklr Cold Flg' is True Then Run Program 'Sprklr Cold Flg' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Sprklr Cold Flg: If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

I just found the link (or one of them) discussing group clean up. http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?t=3033&highlight=group+cleanup+direct I noticed the post is over a year old so maybe things have changed that I am not aware of.

Hi Lee, Sorry then for the mis-information. I thought I read somewhere on this forum that the ISY did not send Group Cleanup Direct messages after scene commands. So if the controller doesn't receive an ACK from every responder after the group cleanup then the scene command is re-sent?

Thanks for your input. I'm glad this discussion is getting some visibility. As I noted, I was advised by UDI to list the devices, and avoid putting the multi-way scene itself in the Action list. ... ... In other words, if you want to turn off all the lights in a virtual circuit with 3 lights, you want to have 3 separate Off commands in the list of Actions. You should not take the short-cut of simply setting the scene (that manages the multi-way circuit) to Off. ... I'm not sure who would have said this, or maybe an explanation was misinterpreted somehow; but it is not correct. It is almost always better to use a scene rather than setting devices individually. In fact, the only time I wouldn't use a scene is if I have only a single responder. I wonder if it had to do with ACK's being sent with single commands vs no ACK's sent with scenes? In other words the ISY receives ACK's after it sends a single command so it knows the command was received. But with scenes the ISY assumes all responders received the command (if I understand correctly)?

I used a similar matte self-adhesive material as ergodic used, placed them on the white kpl buttons then sprayed them with a clear coat. After they were dry I popped them back onto the kpl's. They look great. It's been about 8 months and they still look like new, even in heavy use areas.

Hi robandcathy, This is probably a stupid question but I have to ask, are you adjusting the before/after time setting before hitting update? In other words setting 2 minutes >After>Sunset etc. Thanks, Tim

Yes, hopefully it is simple. Right click on the program in the left pane, select copy to clipboard. Then paste here, then highlight what was just pasted and select the Code button above. Tim

I just checked (running 2.8.4 also) and I am able to select before and after and when saved the ISY saves. If From Sunrise - 1 minute To Sunset + 1 minute (same day) And Time is Sunrise - 1 minute And Time is Sunrise + 1 minute And Time is Sunset + 1 minute And Time is Sunset - 1 minute Then - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') But that may not mean much, some people were having problems with 2.8.3 / 2.8.4 and some weren't. Hopefully others will also check and report. Tim

One more thing I should mention. Setting the brightness of the LED did work in previous ISY versions although I cannot say which version it stopped working in since it has been at least 5 months since I last adjusted a ms. It could very well be this last version since a lot of work probably had been done to add more settings. Thanks, Tim

Hi Rand, I tried setting to 50 and 255 (I didn't remember it going that hi before, thought 100 was the upper limit) and still no LED on trip. Thanks, Tim

I just finished setting up 2 2420m motion sensors. I noticed the LED was not flashing when motion was detected. Jumper 2 is off and the default 100 is the setting for the brightness. I am on 2.8.4 and the ms are v2.0 I factory reset the motion (without restoring in ISY) and the LED flashes with every detection. I then selected options for the ms in ISY. The ISY reported all the original default settings for the ms. I didn't change any, just hit save. After that no LED on motion detection. Its almost like the ISY is turning off the LED option instead of setting the level. Can anyone else confirm? This occured for both ms I set up this morning. Both motions are v2 and purchased about 3 months ago. One of the ms has the address sticker in the usual location in the battery location, the other ms has the sticker on the back, visible without removing the battery lid, which I thought was interesting. Thanks, Tim

Hi Steve, You want the ms to turn the office light on at 50%, anytime there is motion or just at certain times? Do you want the motion to turn the light full on at other times? The use of "Scene Adjust" in a program will adjust the on/ramp levels in a scene to what ever you specify so that the next time the scene is turned on the light will turn on to those levels. But calling out the "scene adjust" in a program will not turn on the scenes or make adjustments to a scene when it is turned on already. Tim

Also it looks like your program "Office On 50%" is just adjusting the scene when the 2 Office - Sensor switches on, which is too late. That program needs to be run before the ms triggers in order for the scene to turn on at 50%. Tim

Hi Michel, After the work you did on my ISY yesterday/last night and since I installed the 2.8.4 upgrade you sent me in an email this morning everything appears to be working 100%. Thank you very much. Do I need to install this firmware also or do I not need to worry about it. Thanks again, Tim

Are your exterior lights something other than incandescent? Tim

I believe if they were all dimmers then: If Status of 'Keypad A' is not Off would catch any percent dimmed, from 1% to 100%, and would return a true. Tim