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Hi Michel, I am using static ip with a specified port other than default. And I tried http://your.isy.ip.address/admin and http://www.universal-devices.com/99i/2.8.3/admin.jnlp both of which produced the same results after the first log in. Thanks, Tim

I had the exact same problem as rlav this morning. In fact I spend the better part of this morning messing with it. I finally had to do a factory reset on the ISY because even when I reverted back to 2.8.2 I was having the same problems! After factory resetting and reverting back to 2.8.2 and reinstalling the last good backup all was normal again. Before the upgrade I rebooted the ISY and plm, after the upgrade went thru I cleared java just like I always have in the past. Very strange.. Thanks, Tim Edit: One more thing I noticed, may or may not be important. The first time the console comes up and the devices appear there is a delay and then the batch mode buttons appear at the same time as the status updates do. The second time and after of opening the console the batch mode buttons don't appear nor do the status indicators, just the devices show up. Running ISY99Pro/ir with network and WB modules. Thanks Tim

You didn't say but if you have internet there you will be able to remotely control any of your devices thru cell phone or computer if you do. If not then you could use motion sensors mounted where they will detect the vehicle as you drive up, however animals can/will trip the motion sensors. Smarthome does carry a couple of vehicle sensors but I do not have any experience with them. Maybe someone who does can chime in. Here are some examples: http://www.smarthome.com/7313/Dakota-Alert-WPA-3000-Wireless-Probe-Driveway-Alert/p.aspx http://www.smarthome.com/73150/Dakota-Alert-Wireless-Rubber-Hose-Driveway-Sensor-Transmitter-Only-WHT-3000/p.aspx http://www.smarthome.com/70422/Enforcer-Indoor-Outdoor-Wall-Mounted-Photoelectric-Beam-Sensor-with-35-Foot-Range-E-931-S35RRQ/p.aspx There may be an easier all in one solution but this was the first thing that came to my mind: A 220v Insteon switch (provided the amp rating is within spec of the switch) http://www.smarthome.com/2477SA1/INSTEON-220V-240V-30-AMP-Load-Controller-Normally-Open-Relay-Dual-Band/p.aspx or http://www.smarthome.com/2456S3/ApplianceLinc-Relay-INSTEON-Plug-in-Appliance-Control-Module-3-pin/p.aspx with an EZIO2x4 or EZIO6i http://www.smarthome.com/31280/SimpleHomeNet-6-Input-INSTEON-Interface-Module-EZIO6I/p.aspx and temp. sensors http://www.smarthome.com/1523/Temperature-Sensing-IC-Chip/p.aspx wired into the analog inputs of the EZIO will give you set points to turn the heaters on/off. Tim

Billy, I just re-read thru this thread again to try and figure out why my v2 ms were working. Originally I noted you had jumper 3 and 5 On. I was thinking at the time that jumper 3 was the LED on/off jumper, didn't realize until LeeG's comment that jumper 3 was the night only jumper. It was then that I realized I had never tested the ms with that jumper in place because I was interested in 24hr motion detection. I had been experimenting with the d/d settings of the ms for other programs. Again, I apologize, I should have double checked what jumper 3 was before posting. Tim

I didn't mean to ruffle your feathers LeeG. Sorry if it came off like I was trying. I understand and appreciate what you are saying. And I appreciate all of the help you have been with UDI, this forum and the Smarthome forum. The thing is Illusion has the same rev kpl's as I do (v.36). I am able to put the bottom button in non-toggle-off mode with the ISY. He is not. So in my mind it is either a comm. issue or perhaps the rev of the ISY (his 2.7.15 mine 2.8.2). I just put all 6 of my 6-button v.36 kpl's in toggle mode, one at a time, via the ISY which after each operation caused the bottom button of the corresponding kpl to illuminate. Then I set each kpl top/bottom node back to non-toggle-off. The bottom buttons were still illuminated after the change. Once the On button was pressed followed by an Off button press the Off button illumination stayed off. Turning the device on then off thru the ISY admin. console worked as well to turn off the bottom buttons. Surely I am not the only person who has used this function in the ISY and has it working. Illusion, when you change from toggle to non-toggle do you get an operation hour glass pop up for a second or two indicating the ISY is performing the change? Also does your event viewer show any activity? Offered as a comparison this is the log from the viewer when putting the on/off node in non-toggle-off mode: Thu 09/30/2010 05:36:19 AM : [16 71 CD 1 ] Memory : Write dbAddr=0x0249 [C3] Thu 09/30/2010 05:36:19 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 16.71.CD 1F 2E 00 01 08 C3 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 (00) Thu 09/30/2010 05:36:20 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 16.71.CD 11.DD.F9 23 2E 00 (00) Thu 09/30/2010 05:36:20 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][16.71.CD-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0 This is the log when putting the same node back to toggle mode: Thu 09/30/2010 05:39:40 AM : [16 71 CD 1 ] Memory : Write dbAddr=0x0249 [00] Thu 09/30/2010 05:39:40 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 16.71.CD 1F 2E 00 01 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 (00) Thu 09/30/2010 05:39:40 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 16.71.CD 11.DD.F9 23 2E 00 (00) Thu 09/30/2010 05:39:40 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][16.71.CD-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0 Tim

Is the ISY program looking for Control or Status of the light turning on? If its Control then change it to Status, if it is Status then it should work unless there are comm. problems I should think. Tim

I have seen that too in the owners manual pdf. But here is a quote from Steve Lee from Smartlabs on the subject: Here is the link to the quote: http://www.smarthome.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5705&SearchTerms=kpl Tim

Perhaps something has changed between 2.7.15 and 2.8.2 I am not sure. And to be honest I don't remember at what rev my ISY was at when I first used the non toggle functions, it has been in the last 6 months or so anyway. Sorry I couldn't help...but I am sure Michel or someone else will be able to help figure it out. Tim

Hi Illusion, After turning the on/off buttons into Non Toggle Mode thru the ISY (select "Off" for Non-Toggle-Mode in the dialog box) have you tried manually pressing the top "on" button, then pressing the bottom "off" button. That seems to be when the process kicks in. The top "on" button will light when on and pressing the bottom "off" button will turn the top light out. The bottom "off" illumination stays off at all times. Tim

Yes jumper 5 on. I believe you can only set 0 - 255, no higher. One more thing I should mention, it seems to me that when the ms version changed to v2.0 the d/d settings worked just the opposite as discribed in the ISY wiki. In other words a setting of 1 required more darkness to switch to dusk, while 254 required more light to switch to dawn. Like I said though it has been a long time but that is how I remember it. I am not sure why yours isnt working correctly. Have you removed from the ISY, factory reset the MS, and re linked to the ISY? Do you have more than 1, all doing the same thing? I don't have the time right now but in the next day or two I can pull one and relink and retest and report back if you like. But perhaps someone who has a fresher memory than I can chime in. Tim

Hello Billy, I am by no means a guru but when I first got the new ver 2.0 MS I played with them for a long time. I found that when I used the ISY to set the d/d settings and set the value to 0 the ms would never report dark. So it would send motion triggers day or night as it detected motion. So I can report the ISY could set the MS properly. That was back 9 or so months ago, not sure of the ISY version at that time. But I am running 2.8.2 now and those same MS are still operating day and night properly. As I recall after making any adjustments I waited about 5 minutes before making any tests, and put the MS in a closed drawer so it was dark during the wait. Also while the MS is in motion trigger mode the d/d feature is ignored. The motion has to be in the non trigger mode for the d/d to change states. I never did do any tests with the mechanical pots in the MS so I cannot report for that. Tim

Select the program you want to copy in the left window pane, right click on the program and select "Copy to Clipboard." Then paste it in the body of your post. Then highlight the entire program text and press "Code." Tim

This problem only has happened once more since the last time. I enabled DON but the ip address didnt show up in the error log. But since then I rebooted the ISY, could this be why it didn't log the ip? Does it reset after reboot? How long does the ISY keep the HTTP disabled after an attack? If left alone would it resume normal operations or is the only way to reboot? Thanks, Tim

I have been having problems with the ISY seemingly locking up, programs wont run and I cannot get into the admin via web. I found I can telnet from a computer on my lan and reboot the ISY even if I cannot enter thru the web. If I am away I want to know I will be able to get into the ISY somehow to reboot if needed. Tim

How about using FastOn for KPL-B to trigger the NightTimeBedroom/Kitchen Scenes? Tim

Can I telnet into the ISY99i from a remote location? If the ip of the isy is 192.168.1.101 and I am within the lan I can access thru telnet by typing C:/telnet 192.168.1.101 (without the port specified) and gain access and make changes and reboot. But from a remote location if the wan ip is xx.xx.x.xxx and the isy is port forwarded to 442 I tried typing: C:/telnet xx.xx.x.xxx 442 but cannot gain access. Is it possible, or am I doing something wrong? I am able to https://xx.xx.x.xxx:442/admin and get into the admin console from a remote location. Thanks, Tim

Living in an area which isnt covered by any stations offering light data I used a motion sensor light sensor along with sunrise / sunset for inside and outside lights. The problem with the indoor motion sensors is that any lights on in the room will affect the light sensor. I opted for trying an EZIO6 with the EZeye. I mounted the sensor outdoors under the eves, away from any light sources. I wired the 1 ezeye to both analog inputs which allows me to adjust the on/off setting for two inputs. This gives me 2 light level turn on/off points. One for turning outside lights on/off, the other is for indoor lights. The thing I like most about this set up is that it offers more accuracy than relying on sunrise/sunset times or motion sensor light sensors. Yesterday was a dark cloudy morning. I looked to see when the inside lights turned off yesterday vs this morning. They were on for 40 minutes longer yesterday. While the outside lights were only on 7 minutes longer. I have been extremely happy with the results. In fact I am thinking of adding another ezio to give me 1 more light level. Some rooms in the house are darker for longer periods than others. edit: I should add that in order to adjust the analog input settings you have to use SHN software (which is free) and a 2412U which plugs into the usb of your computer. It is simple to set up but a bit more costly than just picking up the ezio. Tim

Thank You! I will do that right now and report back what I find. Tim

I hope there is enough info in the following logs which will help you to help me figure this out. Thanks in advance. 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That makes sense. Thank you! Tim

I have been having some ISY network issues the last couple of days and am in the process of troubleshooting. Everything is fine then out of the blue I cannot access the admin console, and some programs hang. There were two error codes not covered in the wiki. Can someone please tell me what they mean, specifically -140008 (which I presume has to do with Weather Bug) and -5 (which has to do with restart or reboot maybe?). -10103 according to the wiki is "AUTHENTICATION USER ID DOES NOT EXIST." Would this have been when I tried to gain access to the browser? Time User Code Message Sat 2010/09/04 03:06:51 PM System -140008 CLI-WBug:503 Sun 2010/09/05 12:13:53 AM System -140002 CLI-WBug Sun 2010/09/05 12:34:53 AM System -140002 CLI-WBug Sun 2010/09/05 05:50:57 AM System -10103 - Sun 2010/09/05 06:02:14 AM System -5 Start When these troubles happen I will unplug the plm for 10 seconds, reconnect and the ISY will work fine, until next time, which used to be about a week or so. But yesterday afternoon and then again this morning. Also these are the only error codes that occured between reboots. I have the ip address reserved in the router. I have port forwarded in the router and I specified the ip address in the ISY, thru telnet. I am running 2.8.2 with ISY99i/Pro ir. Thanks Tim

I have a question in regards to WB temp data. If you have a program such as: If Module 'Climate' Temperature <= 74 °F Then Run Program 'Temp 074 Dwn Status' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') At what point does the program turn from false to true. Does the ISY consider 74.0 to 74.4 = 74? And likewise does ISY consider 74.5 to 74.9 = 75? Or does it consider 74.0 to 74.9 = 74? I have had programs in the past not run when I thought they should have and it was always when the temp was in between a value, but I have not ever exactly figured out the break point. Thanks, Tim

What would be the cost of the plug in module and how would one go about ordering it? Thanks, Tim

Hello Robermax, I am not sure if this is what you need but try adding a trigger which triggers at the same moment or after the folder becomes true run the program. In your example you could use your "MBR Fan Subsequent run timer" folder: If Program 'Outside temp 61- 65' is True And Folder 'MBR Fan Subsequent run timer' is True Then Wait 60 minutes Set 'MBR / MBR Fan15.4D.81.1' On Wait 30 minutes Set 'MBR / MBR Fan15.4D.81.1' Off Set 'Attic Exhaust 0F.3C.60.1' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Tim

Hi Mark, Well, I am no expert but have been at this for about a year and a half, and I am usually pretty good at organization, but… I have all devices, scenes and programs organized by location (area or rooms). But you will run into situations where a device, scene or program in one location directly controls another device or program in another area so it can get complicated fast, at times. So with some devices like the EZIO6 which for me controls many different things I set up its own folder for programs etc., again I'm no expert and I would love to hear tips on how others have set theirs up as well. Tim