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I noticed button C on 1 KPL was not controlling a program. When the button was pressed there was no event viewer trace. The other 5 buttons produced a trace. I factory reset the KPL and restored via ISY. Still no trace on button C. I removed the device via ISY, factory restored the KPL and reinstalled it in ISY. Now pressing button C produces an event trace. I have had this happen in the past, 4 or 5 times, with various KPL's 6 or 8 button devices. Seems like it will occur after adding or changing other devices or heavy linking/relinking sessions (having nothing to do with the failed KPL). Its really not a huge deal, other than having to recreate all the links and programs. But I was wondering why a factory reset and restore doesn't fix the problem? Some sort of corruption in the ISY or PLM? Is there any way to prevent or repair without having to remove and reinstall? Thanks, Tim

Turned out to be a EZEye connected to an EZIO6 Analog input apparently is going bad. As soon as I unplugged the EZIO the flashing went away. Plugged it back in and the flashing started up again. Once I disconnected the EZEye the flashing went away again. Replaced the EZEye and all is good again. I should have opened my email sooner than later. My inbox was flooded with ISY emails created by a program to let me know the threshold changes of the EZEye. Unfortunately I didn’t open up my emails until I had replaced the EZEye. I guess the rapid changes caused by the failing EZEye were too rapid for the ISY to log or to appear on the event log? In fact now that I think about I did look in the program summary tab looking for programs running and last run times to see if a program was causing or reacting to the powerline comm.., but found none. Anyway it is fixed and I just wanted to wrap this thread up. Thanks as always, Tim

I noticed today all my lamplinc and appliancelinc LED's were flashing. They would double flash then wait about a second then double flash, then wait about a second then maybe a single flash then a double flash etc., no real pattern. I looked in the log but there was nothing logged other than normal turning devices on and off. I checked the event viewer and noted a number of logs which may seem to correspond to the flashing which are in Bold below. But there is flashing without any change to the event viewer too, so I am not sure if these events have anything to do with the flashing. Tue 12/28/2010 09:18:32 AM : CLI-WBug: Successfully Processed WBug Response Tue 12/28/2010 09:18:34 AM : [ Time] 09:18:33 0(0) Tue 12/28/2010 09:18:49 AM : [ Time] 09:18:48 0(0) Tue 12/28/2010 09:18:51 AM : [ Time] 09:18:50 0(0) Tue 12/28/2010 09:18:51 AM : [ Time] 09:18:50 0(0) Tue 12/28/2010 09:18:51 AM : [ Time] 09:18:50 0(0) Tue 12/28/2010 09:18:51 AM : [ Time] 09:18:50 0(0) Tue 12/28/2010 09:18:51 AM : [ Time] 09:18:50 0(0) Tue 12/28/2010 09:18:51 AM : [ Time] 09:18:50 0(0) Tue 12/28/2010 09:18:51 AM : [ Time] 09:18:50 0(0) Tue 12/28/2010 09:18:51 AM : [ Time] 09:18:50 0(0) Tue 12/28/2010 09:18:51 AM : [ Time] 09:18:50 0(0) Tue 12/28/2010 09:18:51 AM : [ Time] 09:18:51 0(0) Tue 12/28/2010 09:18:52 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.F1.E6 11.DD.F9 41 11 01 LTONRR (01) I checked the LED on the PLM and it is not flashing with the lamp/appliancelincs, but it does flash with device activations. Also the LED's on the ISY are not flashing other than when a device is activated as well. Any ideas? Thanks, Tim

Hi Michel, Ok, I will send my spare plm. Hi Rand, Tried your suggestion, still locked up. Thanks to both of you. Tim

Well, no such luck. I waited for an hour and the ISY still had the Pwr, TX and RX LED's stuck on. Was unable to enter the admin console at all. Once I rebooted again all was fine. Next Suggestion? Thanks, Tim

Right on, that will be a lot easier to try. THANK YOU! By the way, when you say "EZRains" you mean EZRain or EZFlora right, and not all of the EZxxx products. Thanks, Tim

Hi Michel, 1) PLM 2412S v3.3 (v.92) 2) Have had malfunction with and without the external power supply (doesn't seem to matter). 3) ISY 99ir pro v2.8.9 4) Yes, 1 EZFlora device with new updates from SHN. No, I haven't tried removing it (didn't know it could cause this problem). Do I have to remove from the ISY (a lot of work to reinstall) or can I simply unplug it? If it matters I have 1 EZIO6 and 1 EZIO2x4 as well. Thanks, Tim

I have had an ongoing problem since I purchased the ISY from SH about 2 years ago that I haven’t been able to rectify. The ISY was an 99i but have since upgraded it to 99ir pro with the addition of the ir module and online pro upgrade and is running v2.8.9. The plm is 2412s v.92 If I remove power from the plm (ISY’s plm) for more than 8-10 seconds then reconnect power there is a good chance that the ISY will freeze up during the boot process (seems like just before it would normally start to query devices). This happens probably 5 out of 10 times. Usually, but not always, if I cycle the power for less than 5 seconds the ISY will boot up properly. There has been no indication of any rhyme or reason to when or how it will freeze up, or why. The freeze up has been worse in the last 6 months than it was at first. When the ISY freezes up the Pwr, TX and RX LED’s are all lit solid. The wiki describes the condition of RX lit solid as a problem with the plm or cable, but it doesn’t describe the TX LED on solid or both RX and TX on solid. I have replaced the plm with my other new spare, no difference. I have also replaced the cable twice with no difference either. I also have added the wall power supply to feed the ISY power but that didn’t help either. The error log doesn't indicate a problem either. At first it seemed it would only occur when unplugging the plm, not when rebooting from the admin console but a couple of days ago it did freeze when I rebooted from the console. It hasn’t been a huge deal but my fear is one day when I am out of town and there is a power interruption……. Any suggestions? Thanks, Tim

Just upgraded, so far all is good. Odd is I was expecting to see v2.8.8 as others reported but the version in about and the backup I just did shows 2.8.9! Thanks UDI Team! Tim

mjtyson, Out of curiosity what was the solution? Thanks, Tim

Ditto. Thanks, Tim

tim2u, I would suggest checking with a couple of WB stations in your area to see how often they update their data. All of the stations in my area only update about once an hour (1 is even longer between updates). Lee, I like that idea of the radio with the output to trigger. Do you have it set up to trigger an IO or EZIO? Was the radio very expensive? Thanks Tim

Hi Rand, Thanks for pointing that out. But for some reason if you use a left arrow and a right arrow in the same post the software of the forum completely changes the print of whatever is inbetween the arrows, like happened in the first part of your last post (<40>40). I was attempting to figure out what part of the code was making that happen and I forgot to change the values of the second code back to the original value. The second code should look like Sprklr Cold 40 Up Ini: If Module 'Climate' Temperature > 40 °F And Program 'Sprklr Cold Flg' is True Then Run Program 'Sprklr Cold Flg' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Thanks, Tim

Once downloaded from the site upgrade went smoothly. All programs seem to be running fine. Once again, Thanks UDI for your continued outstanding support!!! Tim

This time it downloaded fine. Thanks, Tim

Having trouble downloading the update from your server. The download gets to about 12% then hangs, forever. I have tried it on 2 computers here. Not sure if its my network your yours. Thanks, Tim

Here are 3 programs I use to make sure the updating of WB doesn't refire programs. Sprklr Cold 40 Dwn Ini: If Module 'Climate' Temperature <= 40 °F And Program 'Sprklr Cold Flg' is False Then Run Program 'Sprklr Cold Flg' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Sprklr Cold 40 Up Ini: (for some reason using the arrow symbol in the second program causes the post of code to malfunction so the "more than" symbol is replaced with "over") If Module 'Climate' Temperature is over = 41 °F And Program 'Sprklr Cold Flg' is True Then Run Program 'Sprklr Cold Flg' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Sprklr Cold Flg: If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

I just found the link (or one of them) discussing group clean up. http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?t=3033&highlight=group+cleanup+direct I noticed the post is over a year old so maybe things have changed that I am not aware of.

Hi Lee, Sorry then for the mis-information. I thought I read somewhere on this forum that the ISY did not send Group Cleanup Direct messages after scene commands. So if the controller doesn't receive an ACK from every responder after the group cleanup then the scene command is re-sent?

Thanks for your input. I'm glad this discussion is getting some visibility. As I noted, I was advised by UDI to list the devices, and avoid putting the multi-way scene itself in the Action list. ... ... In other words, if you want to turn off all the lights in a virtual circuit with 3 lights, you want to have 3 separate Off commands in the list of Actions. You should not take the short-cut of simply setting the scene (that manages the multi-way circuit) to Off. ... I'm not sure who would have said this, or maybe an explanation was misinterpreted somehow; but it is not correct. It is almost always better to use a scene rather than setting devices individually. In fact, the only time I wouldn't use a scene is if I have only a single responder. I wonder if it had to do with ACK's being sent with single commands vs no ACK's sent with scenes? In other words the ISY receives ACK's after it sends a single command so it knows the command was received. But with scenes the ISY assumes all responders received the command (if I understand correctly)?

I used a similar matte self-adhesive material as ergodic used, placed them on the white kpl buttons then sprayed them with a clear coat. After they were dry I popped them back onto the kpl's. They look great. It's been about 8 months and they still look like new, even in heavy use areas.

Hi robandcathy, This is probably a stupid question but I have to ask, are you adjusting the before/after time setting before hitting update? In other words setting 2 minutes >After>Sunset etc. Thanks, Tim

Yes, hopefully it is simple. Right click on the program in the left pane, select copy to clipboard. Then paste here, then highlight what was just pasted and select the Code button above. Tim

I just checked (running 2.8.4 also) and I am able to select before and after and when saved the ISY saves. If From Sunrise - 1 minute To Sunset + 1 minute (same day) And Time is Sunrise - 1 minute And Time is Sunrise + 1 minute And Time is Sunset + 1 minute And Time is Sunset - 1 minute Then - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') But that may not mean much, some people were having problems with 2.8.3 / 2.8.4 and some weren't. Hopefully others will also check and report. Tim

One more thing I should mention. Setting the brightness of the LED did work in previous ISY versions although I cannot say which version it stopped working in since it has been at least 5 months since I last adjusted a ms. It could very well be this last version since a lot of work probably had been done to add more settings. Thanks, Tim