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I have been having problems with the ISY seemingly locking up, programs wont run and I cannot get into the admin via web. I found I can telnet from a computer on my lan and reboot the ISY even if I cannot enter thru the web. If I am away I want to know I will be able to get into the ISY somehow to reboot if needed. Tim

How about using FastOn for KPL-B to trigger the NightTimeBedroom/Kitchen Scenes? Tim

Can I telnet into the ISY99i from a remote location? If the ip of the isy is 192.168.1.101 and I am within the lan I can access thru telnet by typing C:/telnet 192.168.1.101 (without the port specified) and gain access and make changes and reboot. But from a remote location if the wan ip is xx.xx.x.xxx and the isy is port forwarded to 442 I tried typing: C:/telnet xx.xx.x.xxx 442 but cannot gain access. Is it possible, or am I doing something wrong? I am able to https://xx.xx.x.xxx:442/admin and get into the admin console from a remote location. Thanks, Tim

Living in an area which isnt covered by any stations offering light data I used a motion sensor light sensor along with sunrise / sunset for inside and outside lights. The problem with the indoor motion sensors is that any lights on in the room will affect the light sensor. I opted for trying an EZIO6 with the EZeye. I mounted the sensor outdoors under the eves, away from any light sources. I wired the 1 ezeye to both analog inputs which allows me to adjust the on/off setting for two inputs. This gives me 2 light level turn on/off points. One for turning outside lights on/off, the other is for indoor lights. The thing I like most about this set up is that it offers more accuracy than relying on sunrise/sunset times or motion sensor light sensors. Yesterday was a dark cloudy morning. I looked to see when the inside lights turned off yesterday vs this morning. They were on for 40 minutes longer yesterday. While the outside lights were only on 7 minutes longer. I have been extremely happy with the results. In fact I am thinking of adding another ezio to give me 1 more light level. Some rooms in the house are darker for longer periods than others. edit: I should add that in order to adjust the analog input settings you have to use SHN software (which is free) and a 2412U which plugs into the usb of your computer. It is simple to set up but a bit more costly than just picking up the ezio. Tim

Thank You! I will do that right now and report back what I find. Tim

I hope there is enough info in the following logs which will help you to help me figure this out. Thanks in advance. This was I error log I got on 9/3 at 4:30 AM after the ISY had to be rebooted to get into the admin console, except it was pages and pages long. 景㌀㤴㐲㄰㌴रर㜭㘰श䑉〠䘰⁅攺牲〽‬慴㵧椧❤‬畮㵭㈲‬敮瑳㔽‬景㌀㤴㐲㄰㌴ऱर㜭㘰श䑉〠䐰⁄攺牲〽‬慴㵧椧❤‬畮㵭㈲‬敮瑳㜽‬景㌀㤴㐲㄰㌴ऴर㜭㘰श䑉〠ㄱ″攺牲〽‬慴㵧椧❤‬畮㵭㈲‬敮瑳㔽‬景㌀㤴㐲㄰㌴वर㜭㘰श䑉〠〱⁄攺牲〽‬慴㵧椧❤‬畮㵭㈲‬敮瑳㔽‬景㌀㤴㐲㄰〶हर㔭匉慴瑲ਉ桔⁵〲〱〯⼹㈰〠㨷㔳〺‶䵁匉獹整७㔭㄰लभ吊畨㈠㄰⼰㤰〯′㜰㌺㨵㘰䄠्祓瑳浥ⴉ〵㈱ⴉਉ桔⁵〲〱〯⼹㈰〠㨷㔳〺‶䵁匉獹整७㔭㄰लभ吊畨㈠㄰⼰㤰〯′㜰㌺㨵㘰䄠्祓瑳浥ⴉ〵ㄱ甉極㩤〰㈺㨱㥢〺㨰搳愺ⱦ㘲ਉ桔⁵〲〱〯⼹㈰〠㨷㔳〺‶䵁匉獹整७㔭㄰ऱ畵摩〺㨰ㄲ戺㨹〰㌺㩤晡㈬श吊畨㈠㄰⼰㤰〯′㜰㌺㨵㘰䄠्祓瑳浥ⴉ〵ㄱ甉極㩤〰㈺㨱㥢〺㨰 This was 9/4 at 9:30AM: Time User Code Message Thu 2010/09/02 07:30:10 AM System -5 Start Thu 2010/09/02 07:30:26 AM System -7066 ID 0004 :err=0, tag='id', num=22, nest=5, of 3492401427 0 -7066 ID 0028 :err=0, tag='id', num=22, nest=5, of 3492401428 0 -7066 ID 00BF :err=0, tag='id', num=22, nest=5, of 3492401428 0 -7066 ID 00A1 :err=0, tag='id', num=22, nest=6, of 3492401428 0 -7066 ID 00C5 :err=0, tag='id', num=22, nest=5, of 3492401428 0 -7066 ID 00C4 :err=0, tag='id', num=22, nest=5, of 3492401429 0 -7066 ID 013F :err=0, tag='id', num=22, 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That makes sense. Thank you! Tim

I have been having some ISY network issues the last couple of days and am in the process of troubleshooting. Everything is fine then out of the blue I cannot access the admin console, and some programs hang. There were two error codes not covered in the wiki. Can someone please tell me what they mean, specifically -140008 (which I presume has to do with Weather Bug) and -5 (which has to do with restart or reboot maybe?). -10103 according to the wiki is "AUTHENTICATION USER ID DOES NOT EXIST." Would this have been when I tried to gain access to the browser? Time User Code Message Sat 2010/09/04 03:06:51 PM System -140008 CLI-WBug:503 Sun 2010/09/05 12:13:53 AM System -140002 CLI-WBug Sun 2010/09/05 12:34:53 AM System -140002 CLI-WBug Sun 2010/09/05 05:50:57 AM System -10103 - Sun 2010/09/05 06:02:14 AM System -5 Start When these troubles happen I will unplug the plm for 10 seconds, reconnect and the ISY will work fine, until next time, which used to be about a week or so. But yesterday afternoon and then again this morning. Also these are the only error codes that occured between reboots. I have the ip address reserved in the router. I have port forwarded in the router and I specified the ip address in the ISY, thru telnet. I am running 2.8.2 with ISY99i/Pro ir. Thanks Tim

I have a question in regards to WB temp data. If you have a program such as: If Module 'Climate' Temperature <= 74 °F Then Run Program 'Temp 074 Dwn Status' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') At what point does the program turn from false to true. Does the ISY consider 74.0 to 74.4 = 74? And likewise does ISY consider 74.5 to 74.9 = 75? Or does it consider 74.0 to 74.9 = 74? I have had programs in the past not run when I thought they should have and it was always when the temp was in between a value, but I have not ever exactly figured out the break point. Thanks, Tim

What would be the cost of the plug in module and how would one go about ordering it? Thanks, Tim

Hello Robermax, I am not sure if this is what you need but try adding a trigger which triggers at the same moment or after the folder becomes true run the program. In your example you could use your "MBR Fan Subsequent run timer" folder: If Program 'Outside temp 61- 65' is True And Folder 'MBR Fan Subsequent run timer' is True Then Wait 60 minutes Set 'MBR / MBR Fan15.4D.81.1' On Wait 30 minutes Set 'MBR / MBR Fan15.4D.81.1' Off Set 'Attic Exhaust 0F.3C.60.1' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Tim

Hi Mark, Well, I am no expert but have been at this for about a year and a half, and I am usually pretty good at organization, but… I have all devices, scenes and programs organized by location (area or rooms). But you will run into situations where a device, scene or program in one location directly controls another device or program in another area so it can get complicated fast, at times. So with some devices like the EZIO6 which for me controls many different things I set up its own folder for programs etc., again I'm no expert and I would love to hear tips on how others have set theirs up as well. Tim

I just received a refurb 2412S as an exchange for a defective one sent back 2 months ago. It's rev 3.3R, relabeled as 2412SR. Haven't installed it yet as it is just for back up - although I guess I should install it just to make sure it works. Tim

If the motion sensors are the newer type with the trim pot adjustments then check the dusk/dawn settings thru the ISY. If the dusk/dawn is set for 0 the motion sensor will never send a d/d On. Tim

Hello rhughes, I currently use a EZIO6i for a couple of door contacts and to monitor arm/disarm on my alarm panel (set this up before the DSCLink was available). The EZIO6 now works very well, after Michel and SHN were able to work the bugs out. I had planned on using the EZIO with wired motion sensors but after thinking about it realized that most wired motion sensors (alarm type) trip then reset with no motion after a second or two which would just flood the power lines with Insteon traffic as you were just walking across the room. So some sort of home brew timer would be need between the ms and the EZIO to keep traffic at a reasonable level. Anyway thats my two cents. Tim

Hi Rand, The plm is v92. The ISY is running v2.8.0. I replaced the original sd card with a 2 gig, same brand as the original. No difference. Tim

For the last week everytime I reboot the ISY the RX and TX LED's with go thru their normal blinking process but at some point will stay lit (power led of course is lit all the time). This happens now I would say 8 or 9 times out of 10. The other 1 or 2 times the ISY will boot normally. The error LED stays off. I have tried adjusting and cleaning the network and plm connector socket pins. Tried replacing the plm network cable as well. I also have removed the cover and removed and replaced the SD card a couple of times. The owners manual specifies what is wrong if the RX LED stays lit, but nothing about the TX LED staying lit. Any suggestions on what may be wrong? Thanks, Tim

Michel, Is the Orchestrator available or close to it and what is the estimated selling price going to be? Also, is there any info posted about it anywhere? Thanks, Tim

How about something like this: If Time is from 7:00:00AM To 7:01:00AM And Folder 'AWAY' is True Then Send Notification to 'aLf' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Tim

I believe fitzpatri8 is right, break this into 2 programs, What is happening is since the ms is not set to night only, during the day when the ms detects motion it switches on and off. When it switches off it trips your else statement which turns on "Front Exterior." Also, you will want to change "Control 'Front - Motion - Sensor / Front - Motion - Dusk' is switched On" to "Status 'Front - Motion - Sensor / Front - Motion - Dusk' is On". Otherwise the "else" will run anytime the ms turns on or off and "then" will only run when both the ms and dusk sensor turn on at exactly the same time, which would never happen. Tim

Hi Mitch, I feel your frustration, been there. I do have two suggestions so far that will help cut some time on away. I ended up putting all of the lights and devices that I wanted turned off when armed away in a scene called “Awayâ€. I found that I had a few stubborn devices which wouldn’t turn off with the first call so I added a wait 2 seconds then called the scene again. Prgm “Away Activate†If Folder 'Run If Away' is True Then Wait 1 second Set Scene 'Scenes / Away Scenes / Away' Off Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scenes / Away Scenes / Away' Off Wait 2 seconds Run Program 'Away Activate' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Also I had added some KPL buttons in the Away scene which were indicators for other devices and because you cannot set the on/off level of the KPL buttons in a scene I found it necessary to Call the scene Off instead of On to turn the KPL buttons Off when the scene was activated. The other suggestion is, and if I remember correctly that your conditions for alarm stay and alarm disarmed were the same, I would just reference your programs to the Alarm Away (either true or false depending on what your program needs are) program, not the Alarm Disarmed / Stay status program. This way when you arm the alarm for stay it doesn’t cause your programs to re-evaluate. Hope that makes sense, and helps. Tim

Yes, there may be a way to do that but in thinking it over I am not sure how. In my situation I simply added "If Alarm Away is False" to the "Run if Home" folder. That way both folders toggle as the status of the "Alarm Away" program changes states. Its been working very well, and is fairly simple. Plus if there ever are some programs I want to run if the alarm is armed "stay" it will be easy to add and control just by adding another folder.

Hi Mitch, Not sure if this will help you out or not but I have all my programs that run when "Away" in a folder with an "If Program Alarm Away is True" so the folder only becomes true when the alarm is set for away. I will put an "If Folder Away is true" in the first line of all the programs I want to run right when the folder becomes true. The programs in the Away folder that do not have that line in them will not run until there is a change in their If statements. In other words if a program is in a folder that becomes true that program will not automatically run unless it is called upon or its If statement turn true while the folder is true. I also have a "Run when Home" folder that is used in the same way for all programs to be run while I am home. Tim

Hi Mitch, I verified on my system that the programs created for the “Armed (Away)†and “Armed (Stay)†and “Disarmed†do change state when the system arms and disarms. Presently I use the "Armed (Away)" program as the status for other programs and folders. You could also use the "Armed (Stay)" program as well. In the conditions of programs (or folders) I want to run when "Away" I add "If Program Armed (Away) is true," same with the folders. At the same time If I have programs or folders I want to run when the system is disarmed I add "If Program Away is False" to their conditions. Hope that is what you were looking for. Tim

I have 1 program which looks for the bathroom switch to be manually turned on or faded up between 3:00AM and sunrise at which time the ISY will write to the switch to program the 75% on level to it, after which the motion will turn the light on to 75% with each detection. Another program looks for the switch to be manually turned off or faded down during the same time period which means the ISY will then write to the switch programming the 30% on level back in. At one time I did have other variables which would automatically determine whether we were up early for good such as the coffee pot running and other motion sensor trips thru out the house but I settled on the more simplistic approach of just looking for the bathroom light switch manually being operated. At one time I did have a number of programs monitoring the level the switch was faded to which controlled flags, it worked pretty well but ultimately I scrapped them in favor of the more simplistic approach I use now. Say its daytime, the ISY has written to the SL so that the turn on level from the motion activation is 0%. I walk into the bathroom and the motion sends an on signal to the SL but because the on level is set for 0% the lights do not turn on. If I hit the switch for light it will turn on, I have of course complete manual control of the light. After I leave the motion sensor times out and sends an off which turns the SL off. The next time someone enters the bathroom, because the SL is still programmed for 0% on level, the SL will not turn on, so it has resumed its normal on level settings. The same situation occurs whether it is programmed for day, evening or night settings. Probably a dumb question... but how did you complete this trial and error? Did you have one person on a ladder holding it while testing... or did you find a way to temporarily mount the sensor? No, sadly I had no help. I used 1 small screw to mount the MS and test its position. It took about 5 tries and a small amount of spackle and touch up paint to find the right spot. Tim