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I can definitely search but I can assure you there are no programs that do this. I am probably the most boring person with respect to custom use of the KPL. I don't do any funky beeping, flashing, or dim levels. Its just set to one threshold permanently . . .

Hello Xathros, That is a great fix but I would like very much to isolate the root cause because the unit should not go dark with out user intervention / want.

I will confirm what the ISY Series Controller indicates when it happens again. Hopefully it will happen again tonight if not I will report back when it does.

I have a KPL dimmer that just started going dark (LED back lighting) mostly at night? The unit continues to operate when any of the eight buttons are pressed. Selecting any of the eight keys also lights up that specific LED. Yet the remaining keys are completely black and appears to be set to the lowest setting of off. Currently the only method to restore the back lighting is to air gap the device via the set button. My next step is to hard reset the device and then perform a restore device to see if it correct this odd behavior. I am wondering if anyone else has seen this odd issue and if its a sign of a bad KPL about to give up the ghost? For back ground reference this KPL has only been set to a moderate dim level to balance access and sleeping. There are no programs that do any kind of funky beeping, dimming, or otherwise. I've resisted doing the hard reset and restore device because this device is part of a massive scene. I have lots of older Insteon devices which are single band in various iterations so writing to them is very time consuming. My plan moving forward is to perform a restore device first just before bed time so I won't have to sit there and watch! Insight . . .

I do believe you're correct. As stated using the second version of firmware allows a method of fail over if a person has a hybrid Z-Wave / Insteon network in the home. Meaning if the PLM failed some how the ISY Series Controller would still be capable of executing programs, timers, etc for Z-Wave only devices.

Just to add more clarity for those still unsure about the two versions of firmware. If you have hybrid environment where there are Insteon and Z-Wave devices in the home. Using the second firmware will allow the end user to continue to use the ISY Series Controller when a Insteon PLM fails. For those like me who have ZigBee the only thing it offers is the ability to still see and track energy readings from my Brultech Green Eye Monitor (GEM). If the Insteon PLM is dead it obviously would not allow me to react to those energy readings / loads.

Its almost impossible to have every outlet on the same electrical leg on the service panel. The fact you saw the same green LED while plugged into the PLM circuit indicates opposite phase. Otherwise there is a problem in the method you're trying to accomplish.

I just wanted to add one clarification to what Paul Bates offered here. The Signal Linc is a passive coupler meaning all it does is couple and relay the existing message / signal. It does not repeat or boost the signal like the Range Extender (RE) / Access Point (AP). All dual band devices repeat, and regenerate the Insteon signal to ensure strong communications in the mesh network.

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Even though the process is straight forward please ensure you do a back up of the system and keep it on hand.

Oh . . . Let me take a look at this! Thank You!

If you have a dual band plugin device it will make your life much easier to (bridge / couple) and extend the Insteon RF signal. As a best practice I always ensure every floor has at least one dual band device in all four corners of the home. Anything else is just redundancy and helps the Insteon mesh network. Having one Insteon device in a central location very high up and unobstructed has also been a good solution to covering all four corners of the home.

Just to affirm the toggle linc is not a dual band device so its important that you have some kind of dual band unit with in the MS.

Does a person enter the room in a sweeping motion or directly toward the MS?

Just to be clear the MS is not positioned in a manner where it requires *direct* line of sight. Opposed to the person having to cross and break the PIR beam? I ask because a very common mistake is improper placement of the MS sensor. Unlike true security motion sensors which are calibrated and designed to compensate for a direct moving object opposed to a sweeping object. The Insteon MS is not on the same level of quality and sensitivity. Therefor its important to keep in mind not only the walking path, angle, sensitivity, and installation height. Any of them can cause erratic or inconsistent motion detection. Lastly, MS sensors should never be placed in direct sun light, heating / cooling vents, and areas of environmental ambient temperature changes.

So on a quick related tangent are all (current) shipping Insteon products from relay switches, dimmers, and various KPL's all using the dual colored LED?? I ask because the SH advert site and full users manual do not indicate that being the case.

Anything you have to share with the group would be greatly appreciated. [emoji4][emoji5]️ Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

I gather you didn't watch my video because it mimics exactly what is happening on your side? [emoji53] Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

This KPL was the first generation of the dual band relay which I will need to get the firmware / hardware revision. Anyways, this is how they react when the 4 tap (beacon) test is initiated. The SWL also blink the bottom LED and the problem I was trying to determine was *Is it same phase - opposite phase* Those who have the newer dual colored LED's are in great shape! For those like me and anyone with legacy products its quite the bear to figure out the expected behavior. The QSG and full users manual also (sometimes) are not very clear on this aspect because older PDF manuals seem to go poof! NOTE: The original link was incorrect. I have since added the correct resource link above.

This looks exactly like a 4 tap beacon test was initiated by something: http://vid941.photobucket.com/albums/ad254/EVIL_Teken/Insteon/07A17535-F2D6-4B2B-968C-34C19FFDF621_zpsqcb80tf3.mp4 I documented this behavior a few months ago here: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/16399-insteon-2635-222-onoff-module-4-tap-beacon-test/?hl=%2Bbeacon+%2Btest EDIT: Not sure why I copied the wrong link but here is the correct one: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/16485-kpl-4-tap-bridging-coupling-beacon-test/?hl=%2Bbeacon+%2Btest

LOL . . . I apologize let me clarify what you can do and see with in the ISY Series Controller. 1 - When creating a program in the (IF) section you select the *Status* which will have the option to select different power values from -1 to -150 watts, 1 to 20000 watts. The variables you may select are from: is, is not, >, <, >=, <=. 2 - When creating a program in the (THEN) section you have the option to select *Insteon* and the only options that pertain to the unit is: Reset power, Query, and various beep duration's. 3 - There is no current method to act upon the KWH total you see in the main page for the iMeter Solo. But, Michel has indicated this is something in the works. - Essentially, you can apply 1 & 2 and create programs that the Insteon network would react to. Whether that be (IF) something has exceeded the power levels you set. To monitor what the power value is at that current time. Some have used it to determine if the washer cycle has completed and then send an alert. While others have used the device to detect if the fridge has gone into defrost mode. While others have used to see if the doors to the fridge / freezer is left ajar. I hope the above provides a little more clarity and if not please do ask and I shall try to expand on the information.

What aspect are you looking for? The iMeter Solo is already supported in a limited fashion.

The legacy names have remained for what ever reason for older devices before smartlabs decided to call them something else. [emoji53] It's not anything to worry about and this question comes up at least 2-3 times a year. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

Why don't you create a dedicated gmail account for the ISY Series Controller? This provided dedicated service and the ability to use a short name. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent

There is no CEMF with respect to lightning. CEMF is the result of a collapsing magnetic field induced on to the other coil or device. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent