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I would offer the true break through is when the system is able to offer two way interactive feedback. Right now there is no method to have Alexa speak unprompted. This is why I deployed Julie U.S. for reactive announcements vs Alexa's proactive announcements. The benefits of Alexa is it provides me *Real Time* values vs Julie U.S. offers canned defined information.

I can tell you from personal experience the wake up phrase is often times mistaken and the hardware does indeed *Listen* when it happens. Also, one can not count on the electronic button because its software driven. Meaning it can be over ridden which was proven in no less than two hack conferences. This is why a cover or powering down the device is the only true method to eliminate that threat vector. My Echo is powered down everyday in the evening and during lock down. During conferences or meetings a silent cover is placed on top with the button enabled.

What is this resource manager you speak of?!? Is that from Mobilinc?

That is obviously old data from where ever you quoted. The 2412S PLM hasn't been in production for more than eight years. The 2413S PLM will require a dedicated power supply which can range from 5 ~ 30 VDC. The ISY Series Controller offers one of the widest input voltages of any smart controller made. This should allow you to purchase what ever is available in your local market. Keep in mind regardless of PSU voltage output. The system requires a minimum current (amperes) of 1 amp. You can never go wrong with having more so a PSU that offers 2~3 amps is ideal because it can provide the current for the add on (Z-Wave/ZigBee) cards without drawing down on the system. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hello Brian, To be more specific there are multiple ZigBee profiles. At the moment none of them are compatible at a high level. The ISY Series Controller supports the energy profile which is intended to allow integration to smart utility meters and third party energy monitors from the likes of Brultech. Brultech makes three different models of energy monitors which are ECM-1220, 1240, and the Green Eye Monitor (GEM). The ZigBee energy profile also includes thermostats and related HVAC appliances. The Amazon Echo Plus supports the ZigBee home automation profile. Lastly, the ZigBee consortium has been working on a new combined profile 3 which is supposed to unify all profiles into one. It's safe to say by the time they do so most of us will be long dead. The ZigBee industry has been a complete cluster f^ck since inception. [emoji35] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Agreed, the ISY Series Controller offers the best of both worlds. You're not held hostage for a product you think you own. When in fact all your doing is renting / leasing a product. There are too many examples where small to large companies went under, abandoned a service, to starting to charge for so called premium features! [emoji35] All of the above doesn't even begin to address the security & safety aspects of having a cloud first appliance in your home!! I can state with a high level of confidence those using such *Cloud First* controllers in Texas, Florida, PR, are not having much success.

The 2412S PLM was single band and powered the ISY Series Controller directly. You had a good run its time to replace it with a dual band 2413S PLM. While you await for the new hardware you may consider doing the capacitor repair listed in this forum. PLM Repair Thread: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/13866-repair-of-2413s-plm-when-the-power-supply-fails/

Information Only: The Hub II supports Stringify vs IFTTT. The Hub II also requires 100% Internet connection and is reliant on the cloud. The ISY Series Controller is not but allows the ability to integrate and connect to many cloud portal services / hardware. The ISY Series Controller only supports one plugin module either Z-Wave vs ZigBee. ZigBee is dedicated only to the energy monitoring / energy management of the system via POCO or third party energy monitors from Brultech.

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This was primarily driven by the best selling smart bulb *Phillips* which uses ZigBee. People have to be realistic none of these companies go into this saying lets support the most used protocol. Insteon was never on anyone's radar . . .

I was reviewing the specs and it appears ZigBee is the HA protocol of choice in the new Echo Plus. I am truly not a fan of ZigBee given its mish mash of standards. Never mind the dollar store look and feel of some of the products that use said protocol. I was happy to see all of the new products now incorporate a 3.5 mm output jack. The smaller (cheaper) version of Echo seems to be a knee jerk reaction to Googles Home and Apples what ever its called. The colored buttons are a clone of other products already on the market and the *Lets play games* concept is so gay. What they should have done is made it similar to that failed Kickstarter product called Dot. Which of course was changed to be called something else due to trade mark violations. If they came out with small form factor multi-colored button that offered similar attributes it would be a huge game changer. For now I personally don't see any value in this huge honking toy button.

But does yours say not found at the top header with multiple ISY / IP Addresses?

Well, if this is simply because I have more than one ISY Series Controller in the finder. That's fine as I don't want the system to auto load the Admin Console. As I want to have the ability to select which of the four controllers to access. If its found this isn't going to impact the controllers at all I'll move on. I honestly don't recall it every saying not found before and I had multiple controller listed before too.

Not sure when this started happening but its safe to say it hasn't always been like this. As seen in the image capture the system indicates it can't find the ISY Series Controller(s). When in fact all of them are clearly listed in the menu below which I haven't included here. What is the root cause of this and do I need to worry about it impacting the system in the long run?

Can you offer some photo's of the final solution in place. As I am sure this will help those so interested in the future. I would probably do a *How To* in a new thread and link back to this one so it can be easily found. Please also include a few descriptive tags in the heading of the new thread so its easier to find in the search box.

To the OP one thing I would humbly suggest is you purchase the network module separately. The ISY Portal includes the network module but is tied to the subscription. Going my way should you ever decide to not renew your subscription you would still have the power of the native network module in the controller. [emoji106] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I would personally not count on the battery lasting 10 years per Smarthomes advert. There have been a few instances where users have seen batches of Leak Sensors and Open ~ Close sensors come with stale batteries. If one assumes the batteries are still good because they tested them with a DMM. The next two things are to consider if the device is in range of the next dual band RF device. Lastly, the most common thing to impact a lack of heart beat status is interference in the home. Last month I was field testing one of 15 weather alert radio's I have on hand for a long term project. I had this weather radio plugged into my island outlet ~ approx 24 hours later I received a (2) on the heart beat alert and Julie U.S. informed me of the same over the PA system. At the time I thought it was the rechargeable batteries I've been field testing vs using endless primary cells for the Open ~ Close sensors. I measured the voltage on the rechargeable batteries and they were fine but decided to change them anyways. Another 24 hours had elapsed and the missed heart beat value of (2) remained?? I monitored this condition for another week because I was really curious to know what it my home was causing this failure. As soon as I unplugged the transformer from the island outlet a few hours later that same Open ~ Close sensor reported in fine. In the kitchen there is no less than six Insteon dual band switches from KPL's to Switches. Yet none of this mattered because the electrical system was contaminated by this weather radio transformer. As a old school field test I could hear the interference being generated by another weather radio I had in place. The amount of RF static interference was extremely high and was also confirmed by my SWR meter. Bottom line don't assume nothing has changed when the reality is electronics age and thus can inject random noise into the home. Also, keep in mind unless you're like me most people don't have a set pattern in terms of what and where they use their electronics. If you have kids it makes tracking down random events even harder because kids will be doing X vs Y all the time at different intervals.

I honestly don't understand why Amazon even cares what phrase is being used. They have proven just in this thread the so called *Reserved Phrases* can and will be used. Regardless, automating the largest door in your home never mind a smart lock via voice control is a disaster waiting to happen. Along with making no sense from a true security stand point where safety is the primary driver vs convenience. This is especially important when the end user has no direct method to confirm its safe to do so. There has been lots of talk about extra measures like using cameras, sensors, what ever in other threads. That doesn't supersede the need to use common sense and reflect upon the consequences of doing so. I can safely state with a high level of confidence the first time you crush something. You better pray its not a living thing because it will haunt you forever . . .

Understood, in the big scheme of things does it really matter to the general public? No . . . What should matter is the company is in good standing to keep moving forward to offer the best in class home automation products a consumer wants and needs. That involves using the best quality components, engaging 3rd party vendors to take on and integrate with their wares. Lastly, start engaging the general public as they did in the past which UDI, Brultech, Weather Flow, and many more do.

If people are generalizing then yes. But, if you're looking for accuracy Smarthome is not Insteon they are the retail portion of the Smartlabs entity.

Just to be more accurate regarding Smarthome and their relations with Insteon. Smarthome was and has been the retail arm for more than 20 years. At some point Joe Dada created Smartlabs which is the parent company which develops Insteon products. Until recently both companies were owned and operated by Joe Dadda which has been sold to a 3rd party venture capitalist. Regardless, Smartlabs needs to push forward in all key areas of: Global Adoption, Security, API Documentation, User Engagement, and R&D.

This is caused by what exactly? What is the solution to correct it from happening in the future? The only method I found was to hard reboot the controller and wait for the system to be in a ready state.

In the middle of creating a slew of NR's for the controller when I was presented with a pop up message. Which was near impossible to see until I fooled around with tabbing and alternating Window views. After I was finally able to see the error to my surprise it was for something to do with a license agreement?!? Why is this license agreement message coming up? This controller is running the latest 4.6.2 release and has been my ZigBee production box for years. Anyone?

The great eye sees all!! [emoji38][emoji106] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Echo is 588442920. The app client is 1.24.2017.0, Bridge version 1.16.65.0 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk