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How many devices do you have? Are you using the regular isy? I would also upgrade to 5.3.4 since there could be a bug in that firmware. Make sure you clear your Java cache as well as use the launcher once done

They'll end up with a check for 25cents after preordering 200 dollars worth of product.

Their stuff doesn't stay out of stock that long. If you buy your router from Amazon, you could always return it if it comes back in stock in time

All this Matter talk takes me back to when homekit came out and that was all the rage.

Did you close the admin console and reopen it?

You obviously don't read like you claim or you don't read for comprehension. I've already stated Matter isn't out so no one can show any type of matter device. Can't have something for something that doesn't exist. Never did I say i show up at a home with a router nor did I say anything about a 2.5 million dollar ecosystem. LEARN TO READ. I said the cheapest house I'm working on is worth 2.3 million. You must not know about building houses since an architect isn't the one contracting you. The GC/homebuilder yes but not the architect. If you're installing a wifi wallswitch in a home, what DEVICE are you connecting it to? Last i checked, an ssid doesnt appear out of thin air. Trying to sound more intelligent than you are only comes across as disingenuous only because you're trying to nitpick socially acceptable terms for devices that handle specific tasks. And no, no wifi wallswitch exists that any dealer worth anything would install in another person's home on a large scale. Even for the promising ones, ROI makes current offerings worthless in regards to making money. For consumers, yes. For business purposes no. Once again, Matter doesn't exist so Its a moot point (guess you didn't read that). Only time will tell how good it is. Since it doesn't exist yet, matter is worthless. Time will tell. From what I've seen so far, it'll follow the route of homekit. Big promises but much ado about nothing. You can keep reading whatever you claim to be reading and waiting on a system to finally come out and read some more about that. I'm done

This is why I prefer setting different scenes for each speed vs 1 scene for all speeds. If the speeds are separate scenes, you'd be be able to accomplish what you want to do

You can try ipcam viewer

There are too many posts on here discussing the potential issues with wifi devices including the Internet. I'm not rehashing. Just because you may feel internet is perfect, there are still a number of variables that come into play. It's one thing if you want to take that chance on your own home. Would you trust doing someone else's home with all wifi based devices knowing you're responsible for servicing as well? However, here's a big one- a person replaces their router. What happens to the system? As an installer who's charging thousands of dollars to do someone's home, are you going to trust that they don't decide to upgrade their network.....ever? Cost- They're cheap. I'm working on 5 houses in various stages. The lowest value is 2.3 million. People do Google what you're using. How serious do you think any of those customers will take me if i showed up with a 15-20 dollar smart switch? Real or perceived, people associate the cost of something with quality. As an installer, why would I want to install a $20 dollar switch? I can only markup so much on product and labor. Not much ROI at the end of the day to cover costs to make it worthwhile. I'm (and other dealers) trying to make money not do volunteer work. It's a business after all. Where did I say anything about flexibility with matter? Matter isn't even out yet for anyone to speak on how flexible it is. For all we know, it may end up being a badge on a box that says a product works with all the smart speakers without drastically changing anything that's capable of being done now. I clearly stated wifi devices in general. When I say flexibility, I'm talking about a devices ability to talk directly to other devices. What can you do with the devices within a given ecosystem. When you look at C4, Savant, Crestron, and Lutron, the ability of devices to talk to one another is much greater than those of wifi based devices. The internet is full of posts with people complaining about lack of flexibility if you want to see for yourself what can be done. Sure, some wifi devices are better than others in regards to grouping/scenes but when you compare the amount of work it takes to make it happen vs a standard dealer install- why would they go through all of that? Management- Every system needs managing. Something is bound to screw up or go wrong whether it's by the customer or a freak accident. If a customer buys a new router, how does that impact the system? Does that mean an all day/multi- day service call setting stuff back up? Obviously the customer pays for that if it's on them but what if it isn't? How excited do you think they'll be having to pay twice for the same work? At least with a pro system, one can be in and out in a case like that should something happen. There are other issues that come into play that an installer has to consider as well that a home owner doesn't (but should). Not being smart because It's great that you read a lot (more need to) 0but experience from doing something for years in hundreds of homes will trump all of that. The same applies with school and training. What they teach you in class is completely different than what you get once you're in the real world. There's a place for consumer diy setups (and yes even dealers will use them strategically), but in others, dealers will avoid them. Sometimes perception trumps reality or it may be a combination of other factors that will keep a dealer from doing something.

You should try hanging out with a few dealers to actually see what they go through and why they do what they do. You'd be surprised how many aren't looking to get customers to add stuff simply to run up the cost. Making a couple hundred bucks extra isn't worth the hit to our reputation since word of mouth can make or break us. The thousands we can make from a referral is worth much more than the few hundred we make from adding extra. It's better for us to make more money with value added services than needing to add more of something just to make something work. So no, that's not why we like RF. Dealers don't care about the underlying technology for the most part. They sell what works and makes them money. RF is where it's at since it's cheaper than hardwired systems overall. The good ones plan ahead for what they need and a few extra just in case vs "simply guessing". This is why customers will usually get more devices than they think they need. Things don't always work according to plan but for the most part, we approach things in a methodical manner to ensure customer satisfaction and lessen the chance of something going wrong. Wifi (as we know it not ZigBee) isn't it for dealers because of potential issues it could have, price, flexibility, capabilities, etc....as well as the additional work taking to set it up and manage long term. For dealers in general, Matter doesn't matter since Matter customers aren't their market. There could be some benefits but in the grand scheme of things, you cant beat the stability that a single source solution brings to an integrated home. This is why you see dealers using Lutron, C4, Crestron, etc. Unless a dealer is focused on the low end consumer market (I was there once) and using diy stuff, Matter will play a small part in their installations. Take my business. I do new construction only and my clientele tends to have more money than time- they'd never diy their home regardless of how easy it is to do. Especially since it's new construction. They want to move in and things are ready. Not spending hours reading, buying, installing, and figuring out how to make it work. High end luxury level companies such as Lutron aren't as concerned with Matter either. That's like saying Rolls Royce is concerned about what Honda is doing with their cars. They cater to a certain type of people. I can see them adding their entry level stuff such as Caseta and Serena shades. The shades that's compatible with the caseta pro hub may also be included. Ra2/3 potentially but I'm hard pressed to see homeworks, ketra, nor their Palladium line of shades added. @upstatemikeposted a great video on another thread talking about matter which covers everything I feel about it so i won't go into detail on why i think it's irrelevant from the start. As you said, Lutron probably won't like it if someone else's dimmer works with their stuff....so why does anyone have to play nice with someone else?! Overall, i don't forsee much changing from the current way things currently are except that voice assistants will be integrated together to a certain degree. What i mean by that is you can now turn your lights on using Alexa and then check the status from homekit when you leave and it be correct.

The final nail was when insteon shut down....no more products

If you are certain that you set the ramp rate for the devices outside of the scene at .5 and within the scene itself for each controller, I would make sure that your firmware and UI matches to ensure there is nothing funky there preventing the system from working properly

I said the some of the same stuff he said when they first announced matter. Everyone will make their stuff connect but keep the best features within their won ecosystem. There is zero interest in a company opening themselves up that way.

Just the Isy as far as I know.

I think UDI will support matter if it accomplishes what it says it will and ends up being popular. An argument can be made that it can already do that though Polisy cannot/doesn't support as many devices (due to closed APIs and lack of potential interest). Matter would help with that so it remains to be seen. Besides the history of broken promises leaving me skeptical, with the way i automate, matter isn't as important at this time for me so im not pushing for it yet... especially since they keep having delays. I just know when there's too many hands in the cookie jar, something will end up missing or broken

It is interesting but it only Matters (pun intended) for those who are interested in going that route with their systems. I've heard all of this talk for so long that I can't simply jump on board and declare matter the protocol of all things. Once Ubiquiti releases a 6e access point (hopefully by the time this house is done), I'll be using that since I'm a Ubiquiti guy. Unless Lutron, UDI (if it supports ra3), or C4 supports matter, it's a non starter for me. For others, I can see the appeal and it would make total sense.

This is what Michel said once. Sudo pkg delete isy Sudo pkg install isy

It's impossible to future proof yourself as new standards are always being developed. 800 was recently announced and at some point 900 will be announced followed by 1000 series and so forth. The best way to semi future proof yourself would be to buy the latest series devices available and use them with your particular controller. Ditto when upgrading your controller. Should 800 series controller be available a few years from now when you decide to upgrade them you would get that so it's ready for whatever 800 series devices you may add later. All series work together. You just don't get the benefits of the higher series such as longer range of using a lower series controller. If you Google benefits of whatever series, you'll see the only talk about specific zwave capabilities not device specific features. This is because each series change improves zwave communication in itself, not necessarily the individual device features. With that said, once youve established a strong mesh in your home, most of the benefits of a higher series becomes moot since you would have reached network density. Newer devices are faster in generally due to newer processors and other improvements but ultimately the gains in speed isn't enough to warrant ripping everything out and starting over every time a new series comes out. If i had a house full of older 300 series from 10 years ago, I'd probably be willing to do that but not from 500 to 700 series. Zwave is like smartphones. They come out with something new often but the gains are incremental with the times. Will you notice a difference between a galaxy s21 vs a 22. Probably. But is it enough to drop 1k on that new one? Probably not!

Zwave doesn't really have a classification for keypads (that I'm aware of) which means it'll be on the mfg. to design around that limitation. Since it's a race to the bottom in regards to pricing, most probably do not attempt since that means it'll cost them to make it happen for a device that will be limited to a few devices that support it (along with the support calls that'll follow). Keep in mind, most of these devices are geared towards small (less than 10) installations vs whole home automation. While we might be a passionate community that's being left out of in their minds, we are a small minority vs the greater community

It's possible....Apple did win a billion dollar case against Samsung for having a rectangular phone with rounded corners (later overturned)

There are a few posts on the first page of the Smarthome subforum where this is discussed https://forum.universal-devices.com/forum/20-smarthome-channel/

Wifi 6 (AX) still uses the same 5Ghz band that AC (wifi 5) uses. Wifi 6e uses the 6Ghz band. If you find a good price for a wifi 6e router then I say hop on it. I notice a difference with my phone and laptop with wifi 6. Personally I'd pay more for 6e if the future is in your thought process vs worrying about wifi6. I've personally seen where older devices have had issues connecting to wifi6 routers (my wifes office laptop). They had to update the drivers at her office. That's something to think about with your older printers. It's AD that sucks outside of a few feet. It never took off though there were a few routers that offered it 5 years or so ago when it came out.

Are you using polisy? What firmware are you using for that and pg3? You probably should create a separate post for this since the op that started this post meant it as a guide for new users and not necessarily for trpubleshooting

The hub is not compatible with polisy not the isy

I agree with you in regards to installer and prosumer diy homes. Your sentiments are part of the many reasons why I can't fully get on board with zwave. When you talk about basic systems such as smart things and qolsys alarm panels, people are generally looking for basic control of their devices. What we do here with the Isy and other automation controllers do expose the shortcomings of zwave that other basic systems do not. In that regards, zwave works perfect.