Brian H

That was the way mine was. Paddle assembly removed. Tape over the tact switches access holes in the top cover. What looked like a wooden stick was included so you could push on the set switch. The mounting tabs may have been removed but not too sure on that

If the modules did not have an X10 code programmed into them. It may not be the problem. The later revision modules did not officially have an X10 capability. Though some still did. That would be only one House Code and I see more than one House Code in your posted log entries. I don't know if a factory reset and reloading would do anything. Is it possible to disable a module with the Air Gap switch if it is a Switchlinc and see if anything changes or unplug a module and see if anything changes. If you have a module that can be set to flash its LED on power line traffic. You may see it flashing when normally nothing is being controlled. Do you know if anything is only running at those hours? Like some things are only run at night if their is a different power charges depending on time of day. You didn't have a new Smart Electric Meter installed recently. Long shot as I know of one particular protocol that caused X10 strangeness. Most where just fine. Sorry about the 1111 references. That would be all 1 bits in the X10 messages. I was thinking of power line noise looking like that

Can they live in an Insteon module. Maybe if they are the real early ones that also could have an X10 Primary address added to them. Though I doubt it in this case. As the House Codes look random and not one programmed into a early module. Anything new electronically or moved in the home? Maybe some kind of electrical noise on the power lines being see as X10 messages. House code J is a 1111 and Status Request is a 1111.

If possible v2.3 or higher would be best. I know for the serial v2.3 it also has a better serial interface chip. With a better ESD rating. V2.4 had a new serial daughter board that also had some signal protection on the two serial signals. I vaguely remember in the Insteon Forums. It was mentioned that one one revision was only on the serial model and was not on a USB version. But that number was skipped to keep both revisions matching for later versions.

The 2413U PLM and 2413S PLM usually had the same main board and a different daughter board. So the same choice of capacitor should be in both version. I know the revision 2.3 2413S had a new capacitor series in it. That was made to be in switching power supplies.

The serial interface chip is on the daughter board. Along with the link database memory chip.

I am not an expert on the firmware. As far as I know. Only a few bytes are different. So it reports the correct Category and Subcategory ID when interrogated and only the subcategory is different. I don't believe the ISY994i used the ID. Others here have successfully put a serial board from a 2413S into a 2413U and had it work. I did a real crude test with a 2413S serial board in a 2412U. Very basic tests with typed in commands seemed to respond correctly. Very possible some combinations where not happy. Not sure about the ones originally sold with purchased version of HouseLinc that required a PLM with a H suffix or it didn't work. On the puling out a plated through hole from the top and bottom runs. There are some on the positive leads also. I tore one out and had to trace it out and add a few wire jumpers. I did see something from Smarthome on they occasionally had the serial chip damaged by static discharge. V2.3 changed the serial interface chip with one with a better ESD rating and V2.4 a redesigned serial daughter board with a protection network on the two serial signals along with the better interface chip.

One thing you have to double check. Is the serial daughter board correctly connected to the 8 pin header on the main board. It is not too easy but you could bend a pin and it is not in the socket or you are one pin off. One whole row off and it is possible you got the unregulated +12 (usually around 18.5VDC) from the main board into a chip. Smarthome changed the serial chip to one with better ESD ratings at V2.3 and in V2.4 a new serial board with a protection network for the two serial signals. If the serial port chip was damaged. That could also cause a no communications message.

Glad you are working again. I was not clear. About was the choice not a choice selection itself.

In the Help Tab, About choice. Will give you what your ISY994i has in it. The Pro should have a choice tab. To disable automatic module updates so you can do changes one at a time.

I have not seen any full schematics of a 2413S PLM. There is a reverse engineered power supply part of the 2413S buried somewhere in this thread. The older 2412 PLM schematics are in the Modem Developers Guide and even the original 2414 PLC is in the real older manuals. Observation of the different versions is what information I have and the reported firmware version when connected to an ISY99i or ISY994i or using the PLM test programs through the discontinued Insteon Developers Group with the evaluation copy of Docklight Scripting. The serial port daughter board is in the 2412 PLM manuals with observations of differences. Like a different new one starting with V2.4 The basic PLM commands are in the 2412 PLM Developers Manuals that are found as they where released and not changed with the 2413 PLM.

UDI did develop their own PLM. I understand there are a few production samples made. With a promise from Smartlabs to provide the needed chips or license the firmware source file to them. They changed their mind after UDI did development work. IMHO screwing UDI. They have said they would not be doing any PLM from their development again.

Are you talking back to Smartlabs or using in a different manufacturers designed PLM? Maybe. You could run into Smartlabs having the patent on the technology and if they would put up a big stink. Or call a lawyer and send threatening legal paper work. I would probably pick only the revisions with the latest I have seen firmware 9E. There are two chips in the 2413. Main controller and the RF interface controller. Each has it own firmware. Unless you used your designs own RF setup and controller. Then the main controller would need moving.

Can't say for sure but it should be the same. Their EZICOMM module. Was a 2412 or 2413 base mother board with their custom interface board. The module was also sold to be used in place of a Smarthome Serial Port PLM.

The adapter cable shipped with a 2412S and 2413S PLM. RJ45 to DB9S. RJ45-1 to DB9S-2, RJ45-7 to DB9S-5 and RJ45-8 to DB9S-3. That would be the signals originating on the PLM.

You have to be careful with the 2413S PLM RJ45 type serial port jack and using POE on normally spare wires. Pin 3 and pin 6 are TTL level in and out connections. On the 2412S PLM pin 2 is unregulated +12 volts. I believe the ISY994i could be powered by that power and the ISY99i could for sure.

The serial speed of a 2413S is 19,200 Baud, No Parity, 8 Bits and 1 Stop Bit. I too have seen reports of longer distances. With good quality cable.

Memory here. I believe for a time they had 5.5mm barrel and 2.5mm pin. All of mine are the 5.5mm barrel and 2.1mm pin. If you took one from another ISY994i and it was one of the ones with the 2.5mm pin. Using it on a 2.1mm pin would be sloppy and maybe exhibit what you are experiencing.

There was a time period where the connector was a different pin size. They do make an adapter. 2.5mm to 2.1mm and a 2.1 to 2.5mm pin. Depending om which way you have to go. If it is loose My thoughts are the supply has a 2.5mm center pin socket and the ISY994i has a 2.1MM pin.

The ISY994i has a wide range of voltages it can accept, 5 to 30 volts.. My ISY99i was 5V .5A. I have two ISY994i. One was 5 volts .5A and the other was 5V 1A. UDI sells a replacement it is 12 V 1A last time I looked. Others have also had there supplies go bad. Two of mine did.

Yes. I have seen two major 2456S ApplianceLinc modules. The V1.? and the V4.?. Both have a surface mounted 30 Volt Zener diode that can short.. I have had a failure in a 4.A myself. It was shorted and killed the unit. The diode is known to also fail in the 2456D LmpLinc. Dead with no LED on the side may indicate it is a shorted 30V Zener diode. I have also seen some reports they can fall off the board as they do show discoloration on the board where thay are mounted. I have also rebuilt some V1.? ones with a new 470uF/35V main capacitor. NOVER was the brand of the original cap.. One actually pulsed on and off at about a 30 cycle rate. I may find you more information on which version if you know it. Like a better description of location of parts. Depending on V1.? or V4.?

There is a power supply portion of the 2413S PLM schematic in this forum. In this thread I believe. Right now my main computer with the exact link is down. So I can't supply exactly where.

This is from checking 3 2450 I/Olinc versions V1.0, V1.8 and V2.3. All three have four capacitors. Three are all the same C3 6.8uF/250V , C11 100uF/25V and C8 10uF/16V. The change is C7. None looked like they are designed to be in a switching supply. As it has the same LNK354GN switching chip as a 2413S. V1.0 10uF/25V, V1.8 10uF/50V parallel to board due to size, V2.3 220uF/50V parallel to the board due to size.

Glad you had no issues. Others have until a Factory Reset was done.

This is the start of adding a 2856D2 V4.3 ID# 16.81.F0 The line showing the module responded back. [ INST-SRX ] Is what I don't see in your LOG. Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:31 AM : [16 81 E0 ] Added to list of devices to link to ISY Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:31 AM : [INST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 16 81 E0 0F 0D 00 Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:31 AM : [INST-ACK ] 02 62 16.81.E0 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:31 AM : [INST-SRX ] 02 50 16.81.E0 44.30.76 2F 0D 01 (01) Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:31 AM : [Std-Direct Ack] 16.81.E0-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:31 AM : [INST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 16 81 E0 0F 10 00 Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:31 AM : [INST-ACK ] 02 62 16.81.E0 0F 10 00 06 ID-REQ (00) Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:31 AM : [INST-SRX ] 02 50 16.81.E0 44.30.76 2F 10 00 ID-REQ (00) Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:31 AM : [Std-Direct Ack] 16.81.E0-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:32 AM : [INST-SRX ] 02 50 16.81.E0 01.07.38 8F 01 00 (00) Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:32 AM : [Std-Broadcast] 16.81.E0-->01.07.38, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:32 AM : [16 81 E0 0 ] Calibrating engine version Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:32 AM : [16 81 E0 0 ] May not fully support i2, reverting to i1 Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:32 AM : [16 81 E0 0 ] Using Database Link Table offset 0x0FF8 (reported 0x0000) Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:32 AM : [16 81 E0 1 ] Start : Adding device to ISY Tue 12/14/2021 06:59:32 AM : [16 81 E0 1 ] Finish : Adding device to ISY was Successful