Brian H

pool.ntp.org Didn't work for you either? That is what I am using.

I have seen web articles on how easy some Home Automation installations have been hacked. I had seen the HUB mentioned a few times but not any others. Until now. That is scary. Insteon.com actually had a response to the HUB hacking information. http://www.insteon.com/Press080213.html

If you don't have the full users manual yet. http://www.insteon.com/pdf/2477S.pdf Pages 5-7 may give you a start with some information on three or more switches.

Here is a link to the Smarthome Forum thread. http://www.smarthome.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14554

Teken; Wise move. I have gotten more information from members like LeeG, ELA, Indy Mike and jdale, to name a few. Than I ever got from my Developers Group membership. There is no added information on Smarthops. Not already given in the White Paper. Except one brief mention in the last I2CS notes they gave us.

You may want to get some data on how much noise is floating around on the power lines. Industrial settings could have lots of noise and spikes on the power lines from machinery.

I have not seen anything on those options yet. Though Smartlabs has not even given us a Developers Notes File on it yet. I did see your post on the Smarthome Forums. I have seen a reference to your smarthops question in the I2CS Developers Notes.

In the diagnostics tests. Show Device Links table for the module you want to look at. Then when the test is done. Use the compare choice and see if the ISY known links matches the ones in the module. You may see a Identical/Ignore on the last link line. That is the first unused link in the modules database. I would have though the remove existing links when the module was added to the ISY setup should remove the possible old links from a module. If a Factory Reset is not easy to do. Though it would not remove any X10 addresses from factory tests. I have not see a Insteon command to remotely Factory Reset a module.

Factory Reset. Especially any module you had in a different setup. Like a HUB. Some of us do a factory reset on all new modules also. Seems some new modules get out of the factory with test links in them.

I don't think it is a firmware thing. I have real old hardware 1.3, I1 Protocol, Firmware .28 Hardware 4.1, I2 Protocol, Firmware .32 Hardware 4.A, I2CS Protocol, Firmware .42 All of them where added to my system with few problems. The 4.A gave me some issues. I had to put it real near the PLM to add it. As a test. I got out three unused ApplianceLincs. One of each version of the ones I listed above. All three installed correctly. On the outlet the PLM was in.

That looks like the error log. The file from the event viewer should have a file named starting with ISY-Events-Log.

I have ApplianceLincs going all the way back to hardware version 1.3 to the latest 4.A I know they do work OK in my setup. I see your problem ones are 4.1 and 4.9. They should also be fine. It will be interesting to see what your level 3 Event Viewer shows.

Did the new one ever work correctly? If the Line and Load where reversed. It probably would not work. You can always disconnect the Load wire and cap it off temporarily and see if the switch still powers up. You did have a real neutral power wire in the switch box? The white wire you used was not screwed to one of the original switches terminals?

You have me very confused. You said the 2635-222 modules where the problem but you keep indicating you may need new ones. Is the problem module a 2456S3 or a 2635-222?

Yes if you want to have the 2635-222 On/Off Module in your ISY setup. Instructions are here. viewtopic.php?f=25&t=13338 If anything is even the least bit unclear. Ask for assistance.

The 2635-222 is the brand new Dual Band On/Off module. Recently released. The old discontinued power line only ApplianceLinc is a 2456S3. It was replaced by the 2635-222 What firmware are you running on your ISY994i? The firmware release notes. Indicate the On/Off module was added in 4.1.0. 4.1.2 is the latest beta version but I understand 4.1.3 is getting close. Are you running the last released firmware 4.0.5? It will not recognize the new On/Off Module.

If the PLM is less than two years old. Call the Insteon Customer Support Line and give them the symptoms. They will replace it if they determine it has failed. It is most likely a hardware failure and nothing to do with your ISY. I have seen users of the Smarthome HouseLinc program also reporting failures on the Smarthome Forums.

Thanks for the updated information. Though quite a strange set of circumstances.

In the Tools Tab Diagnostics Choice PLM Info/Status. Does it show connected and give the firmware version in the PLM? Since the LED is completely Off and communications between modules and the PLM seem to be not working. There is a good chance the PLM may have failed. We have seen messages indicating PLM failures recently.

Is the LED on the PLM On? You may want to try a power cycle. Unplug the PLM and power from the ISY. Wait maybe thirty seconds and then power up the PLM. Wait until the PLM finishes initializing. Then power your ISY controller back up and let it initialize. What model PLM do you have. Older 2412S or Dual Band 2413S?

LeeG; If the latest shipping products data we Developer Group members got is correct. Smartlabs changed the Sub Cat ID for the 2342-222 8 Scene, 2342-232 4 Scene and 2342-242 RemotrLinc2s and I don't see those latest Sub Cat IDs in the drop down list. Would that contribute to the problems? I believe the Sub Cats where changed. As I now see International RF frequency one also listed with their own unique Sub Cat IDs.

Symptoms indicate both of you have SwitchLincs that have failed. Maybe the power supply area. Multiple symptoms is commonly the power supply area. Why in such a such a short time. Hard to say. I suspect a part in them is failing. Could be a bad run of parts. Engineer didn't leave a safety margin when designing them. Chinese manufacturer used counterfeit parts and they looked authentic. I had a 2456S3 ApplianceLinc fail in seven months. Smarthome exchanged it with no problems and even paid shipping. My thoughts are they knew that production run had issues but would never admit it.

Well they do have a two year warranty. So if they failed Smarthome should replace them.

Unless the power feeding them is poor. Flickering and lower than normal light outputs. Would indicate they are failing.

The new Dual Band InLineLinc Relay does not have any Sense Inputs like the older ones. I believe the Micro Modules do have a pair of Sense Inputs.