Brian H

Glad you found them. I have found some very informative.

No the PLM on the ISY994i's serial port is detected when the ISY994i boots up. One hint is make sure the PLM is powered up first. So it is avilable to be detected when the ISY994i powers up. You will find all kinds of information in the UDI wiki and here. Like full users manuals and tips on doing things. http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index ... =Main_Page

Yes Smartlabs is the only game in town these days. The list of manufacturers interested in Insteon. The early Developers where given. Quietly disappeared and was never seen again. Though quite a long thread. You may find some of the information in ELA's findings interesting. I believe he customized a PLM to do signal tests. For personal use only. As I could see Smartlabs getting testy if he offered it to others. viewtopic.php?f=28&t=5923

In the the Press Release from Smartlabs. They indicated three phase was now officially supported. I believe the RF from the other Access Points is resynchronized to the Zero Crossing before being sent on the phase the Access Point is connected to.

Are you looking at the Details or Summery list? I do remember someone having some problems with getting the files, but I don't remember what the fix was.

My thoughts are if there is power line noise on the X10 120KHz power line signal. There could also be noise on the 131.65KHz Insteon power line frequency. Both X10 and Insteon use the Zero Crossing part of the AC waveform for timing. Noise is not always the problem. A problem electrical device may not be making any power line noise but its internal power line filters. That keep its electronics noise from getting onto the power lines. Is absorbing the Insteon power line signals as noise.

I have been a Community Organizer on the X10 forums with Jeff for many years. He knows what he is talking about. He will not try and sell his wares to anyone. If he didn't think it was a good choice. I still have a mixed system. Mostly Insteon but with an X10 address in my modules. As I still like to control individual modules with a HR12A Sixteen Address Palm Pad Remote. Also no real good Insteon Chime Module and most work around are just that. Again mostly X10 oriented but some can also be Insteon related. He has a great set of tutorials on noise, phase coupling and signal suckers. I found the ones on the Chinese Cell Phone Charger and CFL noise very interesting. http://jvde.us/x10_troubleshooting.htm I still have one of the ELK ESM1 signal meters shown in the cell phone charger noise tutorial. I also still have an Smarthome X10 TesterLinc Signal Tester. I believe Insteon just shows as noise and bad X10 messages detected.

Three phase power. You have to have at least one Access Point or Dual Band Device on each phase and verified communicating. To have three phase work. http://www.smarthome.com/pr12-02.html

I don't believe any special permissions are needed. I pick Detail for the choice and then accept the warning that the FCC is not responsible if the vendors file have a virus. My version of IE give me a page has mixed secure and insecure contents. I say no to display secure parts only. Then the files are listed for that ID number. I then click on the choice and let them open. I save them after they load. With a new name as all of the are called the same Get Appliacation Attachment.pdf

larryllix and anyone else that would like to see internal and external photos of many of the Insteon devices that use RF. They are in the FCC Database. Along with test results for compliance to FCC requirements. https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ ... Search.cfm In the Details choice after finding the device you are interested in. Grantee Code:SBP Product Code: 2441T for the thermostat. 2441ZT for the wireless thermostat. 2441V for the older dongle that plugged into the Venstar T1700,T1800 and T1900 If you just input the Grantee:SBP and search. It will find all of the devices in the database that are from Smartlabs. Including the hardware version 2 2443 Access Points, 2413 series PLMs, LED Light Bulbs, etc.

If you want to replace a module with a similar new module. Add it to your setup. Then click on the old module and a list of replacements will be listed. Including the new one or any other one that is suitable. Relay and Dimmable devices are not suitable exchanges and would not be listed in the choice of replacements. http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index ... ace...with http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index ... g_a_Device

I have a JV Engineering XTBM. It can measure noise up to .99 volts and X10 signals up to 9.99 volts. http://jvde.us/xtb/XTBM.pdf The JV Engineering devices are aware of Insteon power line signal protocol. The XTBM in my home will display some Insteon messages. Though since the signal it is showing may have been passed on from the device you wanted to see. I bounces around with signal levels. I mostly check for signal suckers with an X10 signal. As my XTB-IIR Repeater/Coupler hits my power lines with over a ten volt signal and respects Insteon. I can then plug in a questionable device and see how much signal drop is shown on my XTBM. Checking for noise. I just try different locations in the home and observe the noise readings. While connecting and disconnecting suspected devices. I don't have the latest firmware in it. So I don't have the optional P1 being sent on a nose reduction to cloud things up. Though it can be disabled.

The new 100-277 Volt, 50/60 cycle Insteon modules. Must determine the power frequency and then set its timing accordingly. The updated Insteon Details White Paper gives some information on Insteon signals. http://www.insteon.com/pdf/insteondetails.pdf

Yes the countries allowed RF frequency is different for other areas of the world. Even the old X10 RF devices had a different frequency allowed in Europe. Than in the USA and Canada. The Insteon modules also have the proper AC plug on them to match the local outlets.

The X10 Coupler/Repeater would do nothing for Insteon power line signals. As mentioned. You may need some phase coupling between the phases of your home or you have some noise or signal absorbing devices on your power lines. Try running the built in communications tests with any Dual band Modules you have and verify they are communicating and at least one is on each phase. Access Points are also a good module to use. You can pick where to connect them and not have to rely on where a dual band is installed.

From the internal photos of the 2413S/U PLM and the V2 2443 Access Points {same main board}. On the FCC Database web site. They use a LNK354GN Off Line Switcher IC in its power supply. I am not sure how it would react to a modified sinewave. I would agree that the Zero Crossing Detector may have a problem with the modified sinewave waveform.

Is it a passive type X10 coupler or a repeater type. Where it resends the X10 signal? Passive ones are OK. Repeater couplers could mess up Insteon signals. If it reads the last part of the Insteon message as an X10 one.

No. The ISY994i uses a serial connection to the PLM. For storing links in its database. Along with Insteon RF and Power Line signal processing. There have been many requests for a 100-240 volt 50/60 cycle PLM but so far we have seen no indication it is going to happen.

Do you have any way to look at the Line power on the Insteon Switch when the mechanical switch is flipped? To see if it blips for a short second.

Thank you for the added information.

I have seen no exact data on this. Since the Insteon power line signal starts 800us before Zero Crossing. My suspicions are they use the Zero Crossing for timing.

Was the 2412S supplying power to the ISY controller. I don't know if the production ZWave unit can be used with a 2412S. The original ZWave dongles where being damaged by the 2412S power supplies voltages. viewtopic.php?f=93&t=10890 Is your ISY controller getting any power at all. Like the Power LED On? The 2412S is not Dual Band so it will not receive any Insteon RF signals.

It is best to reset all of the modules and start fresh. There is a choice when adding modules to remove existing links but I don't know how well it works. As the HUBs ID is in the modules. You will have to wake up the Wireless Open Closed Sensor as it is battery operated and goes into a standby mode.

Running both HouseLinc and your ISY Controller is a bad idea. Each one will add links to your modules the other one does not know about and possibly over write or orphan some links. In the end you system will be degraded by missing or orphan links.

From what I have read here. Do not delete it. Here is some data from the UDI Wiki on the Auto DR feature. http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index ... lectricity https://www.universal-devices.com/our-alliances/