oskrypuch Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 OK, just discovered that all my weather data is no longer available, because of this issue. So, the long term solution is to go to Polisy. Is there some documentation on how exactly to proceed, to move the weather nodes I use to the Polisy, and then reconfigure my ISY programming? I understand that ISY will be rolled into the Polisy in future as well, but I wish to wait until that is a more stable project before abandoning my ISY. * Orest
Geddy Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 @oskrypuch The easiest source would be the wiki with the Polisy User Guide. There are a lot of posts to sort through for the steps beyond the wiki. I will only caution you that PG3 and IoP are still in development and there have been a few bumps along the way, but if you wanted to just get the Polisy and get running with PG2 Node Servers to get your feet wet and keep your current ISY994 setup that's fairly simple. The ISY994 can use node servers from either PG2 or PG3 (at least from what I've seen mentioned on the forums. There does appear to be one specifically written for IoP, but not released yet) For Polyglot 2 there is a list of the node servers available. I haven't seen the same list made available for PG3 yet, but most PG3 node servers should have a forum in the PG3 section. Know that if you go the PG2 route that they should work for now, but support and updates might not be available or delayed as most developers are focused on PG3 development. There is still the option to run PG2 on a rPi (if you're so inclined and abled), but know PG3 will only run on Polisy. So if you're planning to eventually run PG3 it would probably server you better to get the Polisy and start learning with PG2 or PG3 as development continues. 1
oskrypuch Posted March 31, 2022 Author Posted March 31, 2022 @GeddyThank you very much for your post. Will get reading, and I guess I have to pony up a few bucks. Hope the discounts are still available. * Orest 1
oskrypuch Posted March 31, 2022 Author Posted March 31, 2022 Hmm, the Polisy docs kind of assume that you are moving to IoP as well. Can you confirm, that I can keep my ISY running as is, and use the Polisy only for the polyglot serving? * Orest 1
Michel Kohanim Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 @oskrypuch, yes, of course. All you need to do is to point to your ISY. This said, why not migrate to IoP? With kind regards, Michel 1
Geddy Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 @oskrypuch, Yes, you can keep the ISY994 running as you have it. Just avoid the part about migrating from 994 to IoP. I'm currently running ISY994 (v5.3.4) with PG2 on Polisy. I have not yet loaded any PG3 node servers, but I do have PG3 and IoP running on the same Polisy, but not using them. My ISY994 is running just fine.
Geddy Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Michel Kohanim said: This said, why not migrate to IoP? @Michel Kohanim From his first post... 39 minutes ago, oskrypuch said: but I wish to wait until that is a more stable project before abandoning my ISY. Maybe still too many bumps in the road to jump all at once. 1
oskrypuch Posted March 31, 2022 Author Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Geddy said: @oskrypuch, Yes, you can keep the ISY994 running as you have it. Just avoid the part about migrating from 994 to IoP. I'm currently running ISY994 (v5.3.4) with PG2 on Polisy. I have not yet loaded any PG3 node servers, but I do have PG3 and IoP running on the same Polisy, but not using them. My ISY994 is running just fine. Ah, got you. So, IoP is installed and running on your Polsy, but just empty, with perhaps no connection to a modem, so it does nothing. The migration step is really just moving all the programming over. And, you have access to the PG2 nodes running on the Polisy. I think that is exactly what I want to set up at the moment, a baby step, just to get things functional right now before I delve further into it. * Orest Edited March 31, 2022 by oskrypuch
oskrypuch Posted March 31, 2022 Author Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) <disregard> Edited March 31, 2022 by oskrypuch
Geddy Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, oskrypuch said: The migration step is really just moving all the programming over. Yes, that is what the migration process does. Moves all the ISY "data" from the 994 to Polisy (IoP). It's easy to think of it this way (at least for me): ISY = Software/Firmware Polyglot = Software/Firmware 994 = Hardware Polisy = Hardware (sure...let the CS geeks rain down on me for being wrong (or simple), but as a non-programmer and only part-time geek this is MY easy way (for ME) to think of this situation) 2 hours ago, oskrypuch said: And, you have access to the PG2 nodes running on the Polisy. Yes, I don't know the exact details of it at the moment, but PG2 uses port 80 as default web port. So I use the Polisy IP (*http://polisy_ip) and can access the PG2 interface. PG3 uses port 3000 (*http://polisy_ip:3000) to access PG3 information. It's just sitting "idle"/empty currently. If you wanted to use PG3 you point it to the existing ISY994. (again...let the CS geeks rain down on me for being wrong (or simple), I don't know/care if the HTTP or HTTPS matter, but for this it's just a general statement so use whatever URL you find works for you.) I only suggested PG2 node servers as a baby step from PGC node servers because they've been available and updated to a "stable" setup for a while. Of course, as things change with Polisy and PG3 it could break some PG2 interaction, but at least you can get comfortable with local running of node servers before you have to make another step up to PG3. 2 hours ago, oskrypuch said: what modem does it use?? Found in the Insteon Support section of the wiki - The Polisy can use any PLM connection (Serial, USB, USB Wireless) Ideal would be to use your current PLM (from what others have said). This way you know it's currently working and has the existing links. It should be covered in the migration process IF/WHEN you go to IoP. Additionally, PLMs are basically out of stock at Smarthome. Some places have one now and then (this has been covered in lots of other posts so please...look around the "Coffee Shop" forum for those discussions). If you have any old/non-functioning PLM there is a person on ebay offering a repair service (Thanks @MrBill for the link). There is also another person selling caps (again, thanks @MrBill) that you can get to self-repair a PLM if you have the skills. Again...those topics are covered elsewhere in the forums. Final note - If you have z-wave you (eventually) need to buy a z-wave dongle for the Polisy. It does not come standard. UDI is now offering those so you can buy the Polisy and z-wave dongle with the discount code mentioned in the PGC offline announcement. Hopefully that helps answer some questions and get you heading the best way for you. 1
oskrypuch Posted March 31, 2022 Author Posted March 31, 2022 Thanks much @Geddy Ordered the Polisy, ouch on the shipping to Canada. Oh well. * Orest 1
Geddy Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 @oskrypuch Awesome! You'll enjoy it. I hesitated getting a Polisy at first. Got one last fall and have enjoyed it since adding it to the system. I don't use it anywhere near as much as some around here, but it is nifty to have. Good luck getting it up and running. If you run into any major problems remember UD offers top notch support through their ticket process on the website. The forums are a great place for help too, but do consider it limited user-to-user help. Off topic...Trust me...shipping anywhere these days is an OUCH! I'm shipping a truckload of product from LA to Utah and the flatbed fuel surcharge adds 38% to the freight bill! I mean...just include it in the total charge so I don't really get sticker shock.
oskrypuch Posted March 31, 2022 Author Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) Well, I guess the 20% discount just about pays for that. ? Yes, I've been haunting this place for a long time, but only very intermittently when there is an issue, system just seems to purr along most of the time. * Orest Edited March 31, 2022 by oskrypuch
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