Teken
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No, only if the main device is (IN) a folder. A device in a scene is not considered in a folder. ========================= The highest calling in life is to serve ones country faithfully - Teach others what can be. Do what is right and not what is popular.
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Add the new KPL to the system than right mouse click and use the replace with. The new KPL should be listed as one of the available option keeping in mind it must be the same type: Dimmer vs Relay. Once the system has successfully replaced the KPL it will delete the *New* KPL and replace it with the existing KPL name.
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Looking forward to using the Polyglot Node Server for such an integration. Is there a general ETA when the Beta release will be seen this year? In the provided link you offered there was talk about stream lining the whole (Polyglot) process. Has someone started on the path to create a RPi image where all a person needs to do is change a few network parameters? I can't stress enough investing the time and resources to get such a thing done will surely increase and speed the adoption rate of such frame work. After reading countless threads with some of the smartest people having basic to advanced issues just to get the system up and running. Isn't something I would consider plug and play which ultimately affects public adoption for the average user.
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Hello Jim, This will require a couple things to be setup and in order for this to operate as expected. The motion sensor needs to be programmed to send a *ON* only. This will allow the ISY Series Controller to send and manage the *OFF* state of the lights. The following are two programs which will allow you to have both automated lights and manual override of the same light fixture. This program will allow you to have what ever specified duration for the lights to come on then turn off. Office Over Ride Timer - [iD 02C7][Parent 00C0] If Control 'Office Motion Sensor-Sensor' is switched On And Program 'Office Manual' is False Then Wait 1 second Set Scene 'Office Light' On Wait 2 minutes Set Scene 'Office Light' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') =============================================== =============================================== This program (Replace with KPL button of choice) when pressed will stop the *Over Ride Timer* and allow the lights to remain on. You obviously need to turn the lights off once your done like normal. Office Manual - [iD 02D3][Parent 00C0] If Control 'Office Lights' is switched On And Control 'Office Lights' is not switched Off Then - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Please let me know if you require more insight or guidance . . . -
Hello Mark, The ALL ON / ALL OFF has nothing to do with the 2413S PLM sending out this message. It doesn't matter what anyone tells you that is an empirical fact that many are simply not accepting. One of the key problems which you can't avoid at the moment is you have lots of legacy hardware like me. Which does include the ALL ON / ALL OFF command class. So unless your willing to replace all your insteon hardware with new gear that is void of this command class expect to see this problem again. I've asked countless people over the years to perform one simple test and that is to yank the controller out of the system and report back what happens. As of this writing not one single person has ever done so, none . . .
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Hello Mark, I think your little test makes sense but it doesn't really address the key issues. If you haven't reviewed your programs its highly suggested you place a few *Waits* in programs that might be tightly looped. Since you don't have any motion sensors you should be checking any other battery operated devices you may have like open-close, hidden door sensor, leak sensor etc. Again, you may want to consider placing a wait statement in the programs that monitor said device. If you have the latest 2.XX PLM using v9E firmware its been stated this and many other Insteon devices are void of the ALL ON / ALL OFF command broadcast message.
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Hello Jim, The Admin Console will show a blank condition anytime the system has been rebooted. If you were not aware of this fantastic program from Belias please do take the time to incorporate it to your system. This will tell you if the system has not seen a proper heart beat in the allotted time regardless of the blank state. http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/11566-leak-sensors-a-suggested-complete-program-package/?hl=%2Bleak+%2Bsensor
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Michael, Much Thanks ! ========================= The highest calling in life is to serve ones country faithfully - Teach others what can be. Do what is right and not what is popular.
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Michael, Your contribution to this effort is also greatly appreciated - more the merrier I say! I should add the bulk of this deployment is *Local First* as I'm trying to reduce my reliance on other outside factors like a loss of Internet, 3rd party services, etc.
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Ah got it - Sadly, I won't be using the Sonos for such a use case so the *Cut In* will be more than fine in this application. For me its trying to find a network speaker that allows tight integration with the ISY Series Controller to alter the volume when and if required. Bumbershoot has already offered this critical piece of information so unless someone can offer a comparable alternative system it may very well be the Sono's is the speaker of choice.
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Can you offer a little more insight to the high lighted portion. Was the deal breaker a pro vs con for you? As I see great benefit in *Cutting In* when an alert message is present. I have no problem using a smart application to resume audio . . . RE: RPI, I have considered going the central amplifier route already and may entertain this if a viable and straight forward solution is present. I won't lie to anyone at this juncture trying to balance *Time Suck* projects with life is something that drives much of the projects I have undertaken. I love to learn and take on new endeavors but sometimes the amount of time to learn, read, and accomplish the same just takes away the joy I'm after. I fully realize lots of this requires work, effort, and resources but right now my life is at that tipping point. Like others have said before me - Sometimes you just have to throw money at it! My problem is trying to accomplish that on a KD (Kraft Dinner) budget . . . LOL . . .
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Bumbershoot, Really appreciate the over view and detailed NR's for future use. I am quite sure this same information will help those who already have a Sonos player in place. Right now I am still on the fence about laying out all this expanse for multi-room speaker (PA) system. Just trying to justify the real world cost(s) of moving forward with this or any speaker solution. There are probably more pros' vs con's spinning around my little head right now and the only single one is just plain cost. I was really hoping after five years the market would have released something like the Sono's. The major stumbling blocks I seem to run into is either no open network API, no zoning, grouping, to what I consider basic no need for a 24-7-365 PC! I am sure once all of the relevant competitor products that I am reviewing are done. It will more than likely be the Sono's players given it meets all of the requirements and ease of access etc. Thank You Sir!
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Understood, I wasn't trying to store the audio files as so much as assigning zoned speakers to play specific files when required. The bulk of this conditional logic would of course be embedded into the ISY Series Controller and relies on me crafting the appropriate programs to meet this need. I just wanted to make sure each speaker could be addressed individually or as a group when and where required. This will be the next step in my home automation system which seems to have taken years to accomplish. I rather ask all the relevant questions to those who know so I can do this right the first go round. Rather not waste time, money, and resources in something that won't meet my current and future needs. As an aside there have been a few network PA speakers in the security field from Axis which initially caught my eye. If only they made this thing smaller and visually more pleasing it would have been my go to product. They also have a larger ceiling speaker that is POE and network enabled out of the box - but again it was too huge for my current project. I may consider this option later down the line but it also requires a 24/7/365 PC to be running which totally counters my energy conservation goals.
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Bumbershoot, Excellent, please correct me if I am wrong since all of the speakers have an assigned IP address. I can assign what ever speaker(s) to play what ever WAV file along with setting its independent volume, correct? The initial plan(s) are to define quiet hours for less important announcements with a lower volume so its broadcast-ed to all zones speakers. Any important voice announcements would be set to the volume of choice say fire, co, weather, etc.
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Hello, I would like to hear from those who own a Sonos player if this devices volume output can be manipulated via the ISY Series Controllers Network Resources. If so can you offer the required Network Resource (NR) to accomplish the same. I am in the midst of selecting a whole house PA system for my voice announcement system which you can see the details here: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/21106-brultech-green-eye-monitor-has-a-sexy-voice/ I was really hoping to find a hardwired speaker solution that offered tight integration with the ISY Series Controller and that which didn't exceed my modest budget. The project goals are to deploy several networked speakers such as the Sonos variety through out the home and property. The aim is to allow me to preset lower volume output for the sleeping hours for such things as when the refrigerator / freezer go into defrost mode. Currently my test bench has a very modest USB speaker directly attached to the RPi which handles the reactive Julie U.S. voice announcements. Unfortunately, its cranked wide open to allow me and the family to hear the voice messages which isn't ideal during sleeping hours. The girl friend was startled a few times when Julie U.S. started speaking in the wee hours. The ensuring result is she went into security mode and placed the entire home in lock down. Better safe than sorry for sure but it high lighted the fact people are not expecting to hear strange voices at 3:25 AM in the morning! Any insight as to the Sonos volume question is greatly appreciated. Also, if others know of a comparable (cheaper) network speaker system that has been field proven to be integrated with the ISY Series Controller please do let me know. I have no preference over one or the other and simply went this route because it was common, well supported, and had mass adoption from the HA enthusiasts. I must stress the network speaker must fall with in the Sonos price point or below along with having the ability to be connected in unison to send the same broadcast message.
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Also to add to what Andyf0 provided you may consider adding a time frame to act as a *Watch Dog*. Not only does this ensure the device is turned off it will help reduce your energy consumption. Towel warmers are one of the largest vampire draw appliances a person has besides in floor heating.
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========================= The highest calling in life is to serve ones country faithfully - Teach others what can be. Do what is right and not what is popular.
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I agree with Jtara that supporting a device which offers the most flexible protocol support just makes sense. I too have the Bleu Station USB iBeacons - can't say much use has been seen by them. More than likely I will purchase the Mobilinc add on which should make them more useful. As the various tools for this product is just terrible and doesn't allow the user to change the major vs minor power output levels with out a blasted password! Why would that matter one would ask?!?! Well, if the blasted thing is out of sorts and the so called hard reset doesn't work. You have absolutely no method to gain access to change those parameters and many more! I've had mine sitting on the shelf for what seems like forever because I had high hopes for these little things but got quite frustrated with the two I had that couldn't be hard reset. The other two are working fine but again I give up because the RPi kludge that would allow me to make full use of them was just a huge time suck. Having more than 16 Alpha / Beta trials under way I didn't want to spend more precious time on this silly thing. Until things settled down and the market had some real and serious products that just worked. There are just too many products on the market today that offer vaporware performance when compared to the literature. My use case is for hyper local identification so reactive elements can be initiated along with gaining secure access to various systems in the home. Since this didn't pan out *Thank God* I didn't go this route because I would have been really boned and locked out using this method. With lots of past experience in other security related trades I opted to use proven technology even (IF) it was more expensive. Well, not really because it was FREE to me due to being decommissioned hardware! LOL . . .
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Hello John, Sounds like a nice back up plan for sure - keep in mind you should ensure the HL2 PC is not active during the ISY Series Controllers regular operations. On a quick tangent I am not sure what FPS means?!?
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Hello John, I can tell you from personal experience having two controllers / managers isn't a good idea. If you have a isolated Insteon network like I did its not an issue. I did this more for beta testing and lab trials as I didn't want to impact my production network. Only you can decide if the risk vs rewards is worth the heartache . . .
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Hello John, My apologies I thought you intended to use two separate 2413S PLM's. One for the ISY Series Controller and the other for the HL2 software. If you intend to use it with your existing HL2 software it needs to be connected to the PC. When the new PLM arrives you can install it back to the ISY Series Controller as it was before. To be clear you can only have one PLM connected to a specific controller like the HL2 / ISY.
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Hello John, Yes, you can use the 2413S PLM to connect to HL2 software.
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In the same 4.5.4 thread is a link to the new Admin Console - Download and go.
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If a person was on a limited budget they could always use a black sharpie, electrical tape, or filter paper. ========================= The highest calling in life is to serve ones country faithfully - Teach others what can be. Do what is right and not what is popular.
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LED Dims ========================= The highest calling in life is to serve ones country faithfully - Teach others what can be. Do what is right and not what is popular.
